Discussion about NBA Live 2003.
Fri Jul 11, 2003 8:58 pm
WOW...
You're putting lots of work into this thing....thank you for that.
One question: How many points will the expected top-rookies average?
Fri Jul 11, 2003 11:12 pm
that looks promising,
and did u reduce reggie miller's primacy rating?
i played a game today against the pacers and he torced me for 23pts in one quater
can't wait for this patch man
Fri Jul 11, 2003 11:29 pm
Joe, will this just be a season/exhibition roster or will i be able to use it in franchise mode as well?
Sat Jul 12, 2003 6:27 am
Miller won't torch you...hopefully

This will be a season/franchise patch if I can get everything working right.
Sat Jul 12, 2003 10:44 am
Joe,
Would it be possible for a public beta test? I would be more than happy to. I play Franchise more than I play Exhibition. Feel free to e-mail them to me at
KDWilliams85@msn.com
If you don't want to, that's fine with me, but it is shaping up to be a nice roster release.[/code]
Sat Jul 12, 2003 11:07 am
I might, I've still got more work then I thought ahead of me. I'm still not completely finished with ratings as I'm tinkering with them after playing with teams.
Sat Jul 12, 2003 11:26 am
If you don't mind me asking, how exactly did you make a new salary file (you're referring to the salary.ini file right?) If you ain't giving away your secrets i'd understand.
Sat Jul 12, 2003 3:09 pm
I didn't make a new one, it's not a secret as I will release it with the patch I just edited some fields and hopefully I can get my player progression scheme to work to where free agents will be paid correctly. I'd rather not explain it now hopefully I can show you soon though.
Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:55 am
Looking at a late release tonight hopefully, i'm on pacific time 3:50 here right now I'm going through things one more time and I'm moving FAs back to their teams until I know exactly where they're going but 90% sure things such as Payton Malone and Zo Kidd Jermaine are done.
Sun Jul 13, 2003 10:49 am
can't wait for the roster joe
Sun Jul 13, 2003 3:06 pm
It's coming, i've got a few things to work out (Gilbert Arenas wants to sign for 500,000 no matter what

)
I just wanted to pop in here and post that I've added something else, position specific salaries. What I mean by that is say you have a free agent C and SG of the same rating, size is generally valued more and teams are willing to pay more so chances are the center will be asking for more money than the SG. This also helps fluxate other salaries so trades are possibly more flexible due to the new free agent salaries.
Anyways i'm going to try and have it up tonight, i said Saturday late well it's 10pm i've got two hours. I'll try and get it done. Thanks!
Edit
It appears some guys just have their mind set to what they will and will not sign for. Arenas will sign somewhere in real life and I'll update the roster then.
Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:33 pm
Fellow members,
I was fortunate enough to test a release canidate of this roster. Simulated statistics are EXCELLENT, however, standings are as if they were using a tweaked roster.
The salary system and development system is incredible!
I will post some stats from a game later on...
Mon Jul 14, 2003 1:29 am
did u test to see that after commencing the 2nd franchise season, the ratings didn't go all wack,
eg. kg didn't go from overall of 95 in season 1 to 65 in season 2?
why i bring this up , is thats wat happens in tweak rosters, and yeh...
Mon Jul 14, 2003 7:29 am
Jowe,
Ratings didn't change at all actually. The ratings are lower to start off with. Jason Kidd for example, he's an 81 when he should be in the 90's. I think that's what's wrong with the standings.
Mon Jul 14, 2003 7:43 am
I've still got some fine tuning to do, but I tested this today, Duncan started out at a 89 then went to a 83 and rose back up to a 85, players like Parker dropped a few points but for the most part stayed steady while the older players seemed to drop off more.
By The Way I Didn't Notice J Kidd Was That Low, I'll Fix That! I'm making one final run through for final ratings and things of that sort.
Mon Jul 14, 2003 8:21 am
As promised here are some statistics from the game I played.
Chicago vs. Indiana 8 Min Qt. All-Star Level
Entire Game Chicago Indiana
Points 105 103
Bench Scoring 32 40
Field Goals 39/82 42/83
Field Goal % .476 .506
3 Point FG 8/31 9/25
3 Point % .258 .360
Free Throws 19/21 10/17
Free Throw % .905 .588
Rebounds 41 34
Off. Rebounds 13 5
Def. Rebounds 28 29
Blocks 11 3
Steals 9 10
Assists 26 28
Turnovers 19 17
Fouls 13 24
Jalen Rose was player of the game with 23 pts 3 assists, 4 rebounds.
I won due to a blocked three by Tyson Chandler when Brad Miller tried to pull up one on me. FYI, Reggie Miller came off the bench with 16 points
Mon Jul 14, 2003 9:02 am
Looks like ole reggie is back to his old tricks, ill lower his primacy more for the final release...He still can shoot I mean there isnt a doubt about it but he's not the main guy they goto anymore unless its crunch time and they need a 3 ball.
Mon Jul 14, 2003 10:48 am
go joe its your birthday ! lol hey im looking for that roster soon, i hope i cant wait, i wanna play a REAL game.
tick... tick.... this is had to do. lol
Mon Jul 14, 2003 10:51 am
It's coming believe me, fixing up standings right now.
Mon Jul 14, 2003 11:03 am
sweet, (pause as i wipe the drool from my face)
I am dying i wanna play i've been using dks roster from way back.
i wanna play so bad, lol i sound like a dope head huh lol.
oh well hope to see it soon it sounds like a sweet roster and you put alot of work into it, many thanks!!!
Mon Jul 14, 2003 11:07 am
OH, when will the roaster be finished??
l really can't wait now.....
Will it be released tonight??
Mon Jul 14, 2003 11:09 am
Hopefully it will be released tonight, me and Joe are discussing some changes...
Mon Jul 14, 2003 11:18 am
hey guys keep us up to date if you would i hope you can revise it and still release it soon, if not (cry..) just let us die hards know!!
Mon Jul 14, 2003 11:21 am
Thats not a problem i'll let you know what I'm doing right now

Revising Standings
Going through and editing to get more accurate standings so Cleveland isn't the best team in the league.

Final Ratings For This Version
Making sure some guys aren't rated too low

Release Date
Sometime Today I've Only Got A Few Teams Left.
Edit:
After I release I'm going to change the thread topic to questions and suggestions so you can give me input.
Even with the fixed standings the crappy teams seem to win and the good teams lose...If anyone has a fix for this or knows of a solution shoot it my way
Mon Jul 14, 2003 12:12 pm
hey guys any luck yet just thinkin of callin it a night, any chance of happanin soon??
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