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Hey Andrew you might want to take a look at Luke Ridnour's primacy rating if you decide to do another patch. In my sim league and several other dynasties I've done he averages anywhere from 25-35ppg which is insane. Just a heads up buddy

That has nothing to do with Andrew's patch, its just a bug in the game which makes primacyratings change randomly.

Hey Andrew you might want to take a look at Luke Ridnour's primacy rating if you decide to do another patch. In my sim league and several other dynasties I've done he averages anywhere from 25-35ppg which is insane. Just a heads up buddy

His Primacy is 48 which should not yield those results unless the game has recalculated his Primacy rating due to the various things in the game (injuries, creating players etc) that trigger the Primacy recalculation bug.

Please base any feedback on the Primacy ratings on an unedited version of the roster patch and the roster save itself rather than a Dynasty file, since it's highly likely some recalculations have already taken place.

Nazr Mohammed is very underated in a lot of catagories, something i just noticed. His Dunking and Field Goal ratings should be raised acording to his most recent stats, he also needs a little boost on DA..

Thanks Andrew.

I'll make a note and consider it.

Duhon playmaker maybe?:]

Nazr Mohammed is very underated in a lot of catagories, something i just noticed. His Dunking and Field Goal ratings should be raised acording to his most recent stats, he also needs a little boost on DA..

Thanks Andrew.

Agreed, hes better than Rasho thats for sure but I guess thats not sayin much. There were rumors spreading that he didnt play much this year because San Antonio was tryin to lower his free agency value but in the End the lack of a good center alongside Duncan cost them the title. But hes a great offensive rebounder pretty much a good offensive center. Slight increases in these areas would be fair.

Duhon playmaker maybe?:]

Why? His lack of offensive skills is what kills the Bulls offense if not for his great defense and leadership he wouldnt have a job.

Duhon playmaker maybe?:]

No. I'm a huge Bulls fan too but please understand when it comes to the rosters I have to be a bit more impartial than that.

Maybe outside stopper will be a more suiting fss ability for duhon.

Maybe, I'd give more consideration to that but I'm not too sure about it. I'm not sure Duhon should have any FSS abilities just yet.

Duhon playmaker maybe?:]

No. I'm a huge Bulls fan too but please understand when it comes to the rosters I have to be a bit more impartial than that.

Maybe outside stopper will be a more suiting fss ability for duhon.

I think its more fair put hinrich outside stopper instead of duhon

Maybe, I'd give more consideration to that but I'm not too sure about it. I'm not sure Duhon should have any FSS abilities just yet.

Definately not, as good a defender as he is hes not even the bulls best defender and isnt exactly a stopper yet. Hinrich on the hand maybe worthy soon, he can gaurd either gaurd spot effectively and his mere presence is what allows Chicago to start Duhon or Gordan alongside him. Reminiscant of what the 76ers did with Snow and AI. He gaurds Wade better than anyone in the league. Tought Gritty defender, that pretty much describes the Bulls nowadays.

Hey Andrew - Just a couple of thoughts on the previous roster update, specifically players that are FSS. I'm just trying to make some suggestions about my opinions, so take heed what you choose.

3PT Shooters:
I think Jason Terry, Mike James and Raja Bell should be 3PT shooters.
The easiest way to express why I think this way would be to compare real stats to other players in the game who have 3PT FSS ability.
In terms of FGM/FGA James & Terry have 2.1/4.8 & 2.1/5.2 respectfully.
This compares to Gordon who has 2.1/4.8 (same as James) and better 3PT% than Mike Miller or Wally Szczrbiak who are 1.9/4.6 and 1.4/3.5.
In defense of not giving James the ability, I can see the arguement that he has only really had this year of being a good 3PT man, but this shouldn't be taken too heavily as 82 games is a good indication of how good of a player one is. Another comparison for James is Billups. Billups made 15 more 3's, yet had to take 43 more attempts.
Raja Bell has very good numbers, lots of attempts and a high 3PT %. If the arguement against Bell is that he isn't really that lethal from behind the arc, and it is because of the team he's on and their style, I can see that point - because Q-Rich is having a terrible year on a different team. One of these guys needs to change though, if this is based on statistics - I think Q-Rich shoud lose or Bell should gain 3PT ability, or maybe both. This is IMO however. Don't take it too personally
I just used the ESPN stats for these players: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statistic ... asontype=2

Outside Stopper ability:
I think Gerald Wallace has been overlooked as well as Brevin Knight and Chris Paul
This year they finished #1 & #2 in steals / game and last year both were in the top 10 in the same statistic. Paul was #3 in steals/game and lead the league in steals.
Now I guess outside stoppers aren't always judged on stealing ability (rather ability to cover tightly, whatever) so thats where my questioning of why Q.Ross is a outside stopper - I'm guessing he shuts down opponents very well? I don't watch much Clippers ball, aside from the Phoenix series but IMO I'm not sure he deserves to be labelled one of the best defensive stoppers in the league. In the same sense, I'm not sure that Randolph should be a Power player, yet once again this is simply my opinion.

I think I read on this board about Synder, and you didn't realize that he had been made into a dunker, so that's cool if you take that away from him. Another player I find questionable is yet another Clipper. I'm not sure if Cassell should be an outside scorer, yet again just my opinion though. He just doesn't seem to dominate a game like a lot of the other outside scorers do, such as Pierce for example.

Thanks for looking into my suggestions, and for all your hard work: It's definitely appreciated.

Outside Stopper ability:
I think Gerald Wallace has been overlooked as well as Brevin Knight and Chris Paul

Entirely agree. They really deserve to be outside stopper.
And one more notice: Devin Harris plays much better this season(not only him but all Dallas players), he beated almost all his career highs. I think his ratings now must be higher than the original EA's ratings which depended on season 04/05.

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Well Salami I can see you do your research but some stats are misleading Ill just repost something from another debate.

Raja Bell:
3pt% in Phoenix: .442
Highest % outside of Phoenix: .412

Tim Thomas
3pt% in Phoenix: .429
Highest % outside of Phoenix: .412

Joe Johnson
3pt% in Phoenix: .478
Next Year in ATL: .356

Quinton Richardson
3pt% in Phoenix: .358
Next Year in NY: .340

Q probably got more credit than he deserved for winning the 3pt shootout but the trend seems to be that if your playin in PHX your fg% will go up. Raja Bell though has always been a great 3pt shooter but how do you define these superstar abilities? Is Raja really in the same league as Korver, Allen and Peja when it comes to shooting 3's. But I agree Q shouldnt have it if Raja doesnt.


As for Cassel I agree hes not a scorer in my book, next to RIP he has the deadliest midrange jumper though and should be raised in order to compensate for his scorer ability.

As for Ross you need to watch more of his games to truly appreciate what he brings to the game. Hes lock down some great scorers and his defensive PER and on court influence are impressive. You dont start him over Maggette unless he can play some damn good defense. Gerald Wallace is more of a stopper than someone like Richard Jefferson thats for sure and his defensive numbers got alot better this year and considering he went much of the season without Okafor it makes this feet even more impressive. I dont see why cant be a stopper if RJ is one, but Ross definately deserves it.

Appreciate the latest insight on the FSS situations guys, as I've said before I'm still not sure what I'm doing in regards to future updates but maybe I'll feel a bit refreshed once the season is over. If I get a final season release done I might feel like doing some offseason updates. Anyway, I'll keep everyone posted and in the meantime I am still noting suggestions since I haven't closed the door on making any more updates just yet.

Thanks for the feedback on Ross, Chronz. Hopefully I'll catch a lot of Raptor/Clippers games next season

Andrew, don't give up just yet, there is one essential update you need to make. As a roster-modder you should feel like this is the ultimate update to make, and most essential update possibly ever. The update I'm referring to has nothing to do with the above FSS crap, it has everything to do with one of the best trades in the history of basketball that just went down this week. I need an official roster update that trades Rafael Araujo out of Toronto.

Thanks for the feedback on Ross, Chronz. Hopefully I'll catch a lot of Raptor/Clippers games next season

Andrew, don't give up just yet, there is one essential update you need to make. As a roster-modder you should feel like this is the ultimate update to make, and most essential update possibly ever. The update I'm referring to has nothing to do with the above FSS crap, it has everything to do with one of the best trades in the history of basketball that just went down this week. I need an official roster update that trades Rafael Araujo out of Toronto.

Yeah the Raps got 2 scrubs for the price of 1 on that trade.

Andrew, don't give up just yet, there is one essential update you need to make. As a roster-modder you should feel like this is the ultimate update to make, and most essential update possibly ever. The update I'm referring to has nothing to do with the above FSS crap, it has everything to do with one of the best trades in the history of basketball that just went down this week. I need an official roster update that trades Rafael Araujo out of Toronto.

True, such a monumental deal does deserve its own update.

Hey Andrew I ask you again please pay attention to Devin Harris. In this season he showed pretty good basketball especially in play-offs and he really deserves higher ratings. For example his defensive awareness I think must be more than his 63. And if you saw second match of the finals you'll agree with me because Harris' defence was one of the reasons of Wade's poor offensive perfomance (only 4 of 15 FG) and as a resault Mavs' win. That's all IMO but at least just take a look please.

Hey Andrew I ask you again please pay attention to Devin Harris. In this season he showed pretty good basketball especially in play-offs and he really deserves higher ratings. For example his defensive awareness I think must be more than his 63. And if you saw second match of the finals you'll agree with me because Harris' defence was one of the reasons of Wade's poor offensive perfomance (only 4 of 15 FG) and as a resault Mavs' win. That's all IMO but at least just take a look please.

True in your next update Andrew, I think Devin would be worthy of slight increases in Defensive awareness. Hes their best on ball defender Id say 70 would be about right. Very quick on his feet, long arms for his height could be the next Lindsey Hunter on Defense. His offball defense isnt too sharp though as he routinely allowed Wade to crash the boards. Im not too sure what his quickness is rated but in these playoffs he definately proved he should be in the 90's I think he is allready though.

Yeah, Chronz, it sounds so good! Once again please

I agree. Noted.

Darco Milicic since join Orlando has: 7.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.07 bpg. And he has 61 overall. Not fear, pls fix it.

And cut his hair.