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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby slimm44 on Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:20 am

Gotcha. Yup, not gonna doctor ratings.
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What makes this mod “sim”? Here are a few of the features that set this project apart from all others:

- Every art file (jerseys, arenas, cyberfaces, accessories, courts, dornas (advertisement at half court), etc is realistic and none will crash game play
- There is no missing art file in the entire project

Every player in every roster has:
- Accurate statistical ratings and tendencies to work with 2k's simulation engine while still providing realistic game play
- Realistic ratings and tendencies that affect game play but not the simulation engine ie dribbling, athletic ratings, post tendencies, etc.
- Realistic physical attributes that decrease after major injuries or as the player gets older
- Accurate play types
- Accurate contracts

- Accurately updated Coaching profiles and playbooks

- Draft classes that have realistic player information for every player

- A few slider sets designed to be a base for realistic game play
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby skoadam on Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:30 pm

dirtysprite wrote:When we can expec the update of the players, i mean lot of players deserve higher ratings and a lot of them lower if u know what i mean :) Cheers

We should ask, which rating is incorrect for you, for which player, not overall, but which rating?
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby dirtysprite on Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:18 am

I mean OVR update cuz its mid season in the nba and if u r watching it u should consider updating some players, thats what i meant guys
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby slimm44 on Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:12 am

No disrespect, but, NOPE. I edit players based on accuracy in gameplay and the simulation engine. Always have, always will. I'm not going to inflate a player's rating because someone thinks it should be higher. If I make a mistake, I'll fix it, though.

As Skoadam said, if you have any recommendations on individual ratings that look wrong, I'll listen. If it's simply an opinion, though, it will probably be dismissed.
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What makes this mod “sim”? Here are a few of the features that set this project apart from all others:

- Every art file (jerseys, arenas, cyberfaces, accessories, courts, dornas (advertisement at half court), etc is realistic and none will crash game play
- There is no missing art file in the entire project

Every player in every roster has:
- Accurate statistical ratings and tendencies to work with 2k's simulation engine while still providing realistic game play
- Realistic ratings and tendencies that affect game play but not the simulation engine ie dribbling, athletic ratings, post tendencies, etc.
- Realistic physical attributes that decrease after major injuries or as the player gets older
- Accurate play types
- Accurate contracts

- Accurately updated Coaching profiles and playbooks

- Draft classes that have realistic player information for every player

- A few slider sets designed to be a base for realistic game play
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby Andrew on Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:57 am

dirtysprite, I can definitely vouch for the importance of individual ratings over overall ratings. While overall ratings have their significance, their importance is also overblown, and the individual ratings are more crucial for player performance (and thus, their accuracy is more vital). It's a common theme in basketball games that the formula to calculate overall ratings is seldom anywhere near perfect, so there are discrepancies and overalls that look "incorrect", but there's not much you can do about it without messing up the individual ratings.

The main problem is that certain ratings (usually athletic ratings) are weighted too heavily, and this artificially increases and decreases overall ratings. Ideally, the correct individual ratings will land the overall somewhere in the ballpark of where it should be compared to other players in the league, but there are going to be players who end up being a point or two off. Still, it's far more important that the individual ratings are accurate, so it's just something we have to live with. slimm and skoadam have the right approach here.

Some further reading on overall ratings where I've covered this:
http://www.nba-live.com/the-friday-five ... l-ratings/
http://www.nba-live.com/the-friday-five ... l-ratings/

I understand the frustration of seeing overall ratings that don't seem quite right, but as someone who worked on roster updates for years and had to deal with them, I'm definitely with slimm and skoadam on this one.
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby dirtysprite on Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:51 am

Dont need to take this too serious i just asked simple question mate, i respect all of your work like i said in my first post ever on this forum :)
Just thought its not too bad to update some players some time, for example Jokic is deserving more than 70, u guys missunderstood me but its okay :)

sry for bad english
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby slimm44 on Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:29 pm

I'm not upset, I've just had that same question asked so many times over the years that we all knew what you wanted. You confirmed it in your post, "Jokic is deserving more than 70". It's clear you are talking about overall ratings. What I ask you to do is find the individual rating or ratings that are too low, let me know what they are, let me know what you think they should be, and why.
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1989/1990 1988/1989 1987/1988 1986/1987 1985/1986 1984/1985 1969/1970 1961/1962


What makes this mod “sim”? Here are a few of the features that set this project apart from all others:

- Every art file (jerseys, arenas, cyberfaces, accessories, courts, dornas (advertisement at half court), etc is realistic and none will crash game play
- There is no missing art file in the entire project

Every player in every roster has:
- Accurate statistical ratings and tendencies to work with 2k's simulation engine while still providing realistic game play
- Realistic ratings and tendencies that affect game play but not the simulation engine ie dribbling, athletic ratings, post tendencies, etc.
- Realistic physical attributes that decrease after major injuries or as the player gets older
- Accurate play types
- Accurate contracts

- Accurately updated Coaching profiles and playbooks

- Draft classes that have realistic player information for every player

- A few slider sets designed to be a base for realistic game play
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby skoadam on Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:21 pm

dirtysprite, we really dont like deserve word in urbball. Player deserve to have overall rating based on real stats but sometime overall rating is ruined because game code is bad. We wont change overall just because somebody is fan of one team. Imo you still dont understand why Jokic is under 70. Now, load 2017season file. Simulate games till all star break and check Jokic stats. Let us know which stats is really bad and not even close to real stats.
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby WillyPiani on Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:23 pm

MyCareer crash after 6° game
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby skoadam on Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:38 pm

WillyPiani, yes it crash if you not follow the rules.
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby WillyPiani on Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:25 am

skoadam wrote:WillyPiani, yes it crash if you not follow the rules.


I installed 1-5, part 6, part 7, part 8 Only 2k14 and part 9 Only 2k14, i used FinalURB2017MyCareer roster.


For MyCareer need Retro roster and NCAA files?


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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby skoadam on Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:23 am

My Career mode is most crashable mode ever. Many users reports crashes in MC mode. Im right now before playoffs in mycareer, never notice crash or any other bug. What to do? Well first of all, i was never using "play next key game". Im always using "play next game". I was never using HD cfs. In My career mode we shouldnt use any custom scoreboard. Follow the rules and your game wont crash.
BTW. One issue i cant fix, first name is blank, you can fix it by using redmc.
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby Zarb0n on Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:04 am

After reading through the last few posts I wanted to write down that, in my opinion, the best thing about URB are the ratings, or to be exact, the way they are being implemented. You guys really turned gameplay into perfection with that.

When it comes to Jokic, the only thing that I personally tweaked around him are his shot tendencies. If I remember right his 3pt tendencies were set to 0 or somewhere close to that, so I moved that up because the dude is shooting threes and he's shooting them really good.

Never had any problems in My Career so far and I'm in my second season. The only small thing that I've noticed though is the age of the players. Every player is a few years older than he actually is. I believe that's because in "normal" game the year is 2012 and the birth year for every player is set a few years backwards. Let's take Lebron for example, he was born in 1984 so here in URB 2017 his birth year is set to 1980 so that the game reads him as a 32-year old (his actual age).
With that being said, since the starting year in My Career is 2016 and Lebron's birth year is set to 1980 that makes him 36 in My Career instead of 32.

I rambled too much but I hope you get the idea. Would be cool if there's any solution to that, if not, it doesn't matter, it's just a minor thing anyway so it doesn't bother me too much. Cheers guys :)
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby skoadam on Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:54 am

Zarb0n, this finally correct answer about non accurate rating of Jokic. It will be updated together with all star break. I checked his stats, its 1.5 attempt, 0.6 per game made.
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Postby Zarb0n on Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:15 am

He wasn't playing regularly at the start of the season, he was inserted into the starting lineup since the start of December and his numbers are really good. Since the start of December he attempted 34 shoots for three and made 15 of them.

One thing that I forgot to mention is that maybe his passing deserves an upgrade because the dude has great passing skills for a center and again, since he got inserted into the starting lineup he has been delivering assists constantly. I've just recently bumped into this video, I believe it explains a lot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjW1ILaU5Y4


Glad that I could help Sko and looking forward for the update next month. (Y)
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby WillyPiani on Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:25 pm

skoadam wrote:My Career mode is most crashable mode ever. Many users reports crashes in MC mode. Im right now before playoffs in mycareer, never notice crash or any other bug. What to do? Well first of all, i was never using "play next key game". Im always using "play next game". I was never using HD cfs. In My career mode we shouldnt use any custom scoreboard. Follow the rules and your game wont crash.
BTW. One issue i cant fix, first name is blank, you can fix it by using redmc.


My 2k14 is the RELOADED version, can that be the problem?

But I also have 2k13 RELOADED version and everything works fine
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby Andrew on Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:42 pm

It certainly is a problem, but it goes beyond difficulties with mods. Sorry, but our rules on this are very straightforward, and clearly posted.

Carry on, everyone else. (Y)
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby skoadam on Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:58 pm

Zarb0n wrote:He wasn't playing regularly at the start of the season, he was inserted into the starting lineup since the start of December and his numbers are really good. Since the start of December he attempted 34 shoots for three and made 15 of them.

One thing that I forgot to mention is that maybe his passing deserves an upgrade because the dude has great passing skills for a center and again, since he got inserted into the starting lineup he has been delivering assists constantly. I've just recently bumped into this video, I believe it explains a lot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjW1ILaU5Y4


Glad that I could help Sko and looking forward for the update next month. (Y)

Wait, hold on. Now you are sayin like dirtysprite. You know what 34 attempts means? In two months? In next two months it can be 15 attempts or it will be 34 again but only 5 will turn into points. Like i said there will be all star break update but his ratings wont grow up drastically. His minutes will grow up by 5.
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby Zarb0n on Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:41 pm

Nope, you got me wrong there Sko.

I didn't mention upgrading his 3pt rating or anything. I just put that info up to support my claim that his 3pt shooting tendencies deserve to be up because he's been shooting 3s and his tendencies to do that in the game were set to 0.

I don't think he deserves upgrade in his 3pt rating though. I watched him last night against the Wolves and he attempted three shots for 3, missed all of them.
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby skoadam on Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:13 pm

Zarb0n wrote:Nope, you got me wrong there Sko.

I didn't mention upgrading his 3pt rating or anything. I just put that info up to support my claim that his 3pt shooting tendencies deserve to be up because he's been shooting 3s and his tendencies to do that in the game were set to 0.

I don't think he deserves upgrade in his 3pt rating though. I watched him last night against the Wolves and he attempted three shots for 3, missed all of them.

Clear (Y)
There is probably 50 players that need to be updated in tendencies, probably same with ratings, we are waiting with updates because we need around 50 games to have solid base in stats. Still best ratings/tendencies update is when season is over :)
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby dirtysprite on Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:25 pm

Hey guys once again, @sko i hope you aint angry or something like that cuz i just tought that this patch needs updates, first of all bcs you are trying to make this patch realistic, like in real life. If u watch games everynight and track those stats like i do, youll realize that you need to update some things. Im not angry about Jokic or any other player, not a fan or something, just an example that patch needs update, and he is only 1 of many if u know what i mean. These conversations dont need to be this long, i just asked r u planning to do an update and u could just simply answer me like you did in last post "There is probably 50 players that need to be updated in tendencies, probably same with ratings, we are waiting with updates because we need around 50 games to have solid base in stats. Still best ratings/tendencies update is when season is over" To be clear, i really respect all of your hard work and still cant believe what you guys did in this patch, but every month or two its not bad to update some tendecies or whatever u r updating to make this patch best ever. Just read my posts and understand the essence, dont get me wrong :) keep up
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby skoadam on Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:36 pm

dirtysprite wrote:Hey guys once again, @sko i hope you aint angry or something like that cuz i just tought that this patch needs updates, first of all bcs you are trying to make this patch realistic, like in real life. If u watch games everynight and track those stats like i do, youll realize that you need to update some things. Im not angry about Jokic or any other player, not a fan or something, just an example that patch needs update, and he is only 1 of many if u know what i mean. These conversations dont need to be this long, i just asked r u planning to do an update and u could just simply answer me like you did in last post "There is probably 50 players that need to be updated in tendencies, probably same with ratings, we are waiting with updates because we need around 50 games to have solid base in stats. Still best ratings/tendencies update is when season is over" To be clear, i really respect all of your hard work and still cant believe what you guys did in this patch, but every month or two its not bad to update some tendecies or whatever u r updating to make this patch best ever. Just read my posts and understand the essence, dont get me wrong :) keep up

If you look through the seasons, players werent changed that much and FOR SURE NOT THROUGH 2 MONTHS, in 95% cases players will end up the season with same stats or really close stats. You will understand this when you look closer to the stats.
1 of many you said, can you please give us other examples. We need to know your examples - it will speed up our work.
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Postby RJHUNT3R on Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:23 am

whenever i try to do a fantasy draft with the URBasketball roster it crashes, any ideas?
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Postby skoadam on Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:15 am

RJHUNT3R, nope
btw. dude, this roster is massive roster, there is 120 teams, +2500 players, game dont like fantasy with this kind of rosters.
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Re: U R Basketball - WHERE SIM HAPPENS! 2017 My Career Roster Released!

Postby dirtysprite on Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:36 am

Im playing now Asso with FinalURBAsso17 roster on fantasy draft and i never got any problems with it, probably you messed up rosters
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