[NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

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Re: [NBA LIVE 2001] Dennis Rodman Cyberface ( 89 - 90 )

Postby Andrew on Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:22 pm

Good stuff, thanks for the upload!
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2001] Dennis Rodman Cyberface ( 89 - 90 )

Postby Rodzilla91 on Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:52 pm

Andrew wrote:Good stuff, thanks for the upload!


Yeah of course.

Have you ever done any texture editing? Maybe have a clue as to why the portrait won't work? When I have it in the update folder and stuff and run the game it's not replaced - I feel like I'm not putting it in the right place :lol:


Actually I found a portrait update pack to see if it would help with anything - it kind of seems like you can't have them externally as a mod in a folder like faces - but I could be totally wrong.
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] Dennis Rodman Cyberface ( 89 - 90 )

Postby Rodzilla91 on Fri Sep 02, 2016 2:31 pm

NEW CYBERFACE: LARRY BIRD '92 DREAM TEAM

as ripped from my readme:

" - this is a mod of LARRY BIRD, with a hq texture and fully textured converse weapon shoes

(the picture displays a white mark on the tip of the shoe however that is fixed but not shown in the screenshot)

the headshape is a little off but no headshape comes close to larry bird so i went with his default one

it is modeled after the 1992 dream team appearance of larry bird. "



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'92 Dream Team Larry Bird Cyberface ( w/ Converse Weapons )
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Andrew on Fri Sep 02, 2016 4:00 pm

I haven't done any texture editing for NBA Live 2000, as far as I can recall. If I did, it was a long, long time ago. I've mostly worked with rosters up until a few years ago, when I made logo updates and so forth for NBA Live 2005 through NBA Live 08.
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Rodzilla91 on Fri Sep 02, 2016 4:22 pm

Andrew wrote:I haven't done any texture editing for NBA Live 2000, as far as I can recall. If I did, it was a long, long time ago. I've mostly worked with rosters up until a few years ago, when I made logo updates and so forth for NBA Live 2005 through NBA Live 08.


It's all good. No worries.

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NEW CYBERFACE: '84 - '85 ROOKIE MICHAEL JORDAN

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" - this is a mod of rookie MJ, with a hq texture and fully textured AJ1 shoes (credit the shoe palace) "



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'84 - '85 Michael Jordan Cyberface ( w/ Air Jordan 1s )


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NEW SHOES: NEW BALANCE P740 (8 RECOLORS)

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" - this is a pack of 8 recolored new balance p740 shoe textures for use with your players "



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Shoe Textures : New Balance P740 ( 8 Recolors )
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Andrew on Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:09 pm

Nicely done, good to see you getting into and enjoying some retro patching!
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Rodzilla91 on Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:11 pm

Andrew wrote:Nicely done, good to see you getting into and enjoying some retro patching!


Yeah! I got frustrated with fshed at first cause it was prone to crashing for some reason - but that's ok. I'll update this with whatever I do really
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Rodzilla91 on Fri Sep 02, 2016 6:58 pm

NEW CYBERFACE: '86 - '87 MAGIC JOHNSON

as ripped from my readme:

" - this is a mod of magic johnson, with a hq texture and fully textured converse weapon shoes (goatee) "


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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Andrew on Fri Sep 02, 2016 7:46 pm

Like the enthusiasm!
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Rodzilla91 on Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:45 am

Andrew wrote:Like the enthusiasm!


Thanks, if you ever want someone made or shoes or something just ask

Magic Johnson doesn't have the Converse Weapons in his lakers colorway, I'll make those when I can

The weapons also have a lil messed up texture I'm gonna have to fix too. So when I get around to it I'm going to update bird & magic for their shoes
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Andrew on Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:48 am

Sounds good. If I think of anything, I'll definitely let you know.

Actually, a Spurs/Bulls/Lakers/Mavericks era Rodman would be pretty cool. (Y)
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Rodzilla91 on Sat Sep 03, 2016 1:59 pm

Andrew wrote:Sounds good. If I think of anything, I'll definitely let you know.

Actually, a Spurs/Bulls/Lakers/Mavericks era Rodman would be pretty cool. (Y)


I agree. I love my insane Rodmans

Any particular hairstyles? Or hair colors for that matter
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Andrew on Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:40 pm

Good question! He certainly had a few, as well as some mixes. Perhaps red, green, and bleach blonde variations?
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Rodzilla91 on Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:07 pm

Andrew wrote:Good question! He certainly had a few, as well as some mixes. Perhaps red, green, and bleach blonde variations?


Yeah, I'll do those, I may add a few other ones in depending if I'm feeling it or not. I wonder if it's possible to do the demolition man hairstyle (bleached with the small kinda hawk thing), is headshapes even possible with a 3d editing program? the only way i know how to do headshapes is morphing thru create a player or using one off a player. oh well

Anyways, added the lakers weapons for Magic and fixed Bird's,
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Andrew on Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:19 pm

I don't think there was much 3D editing going on back then. I think it was just a matter of finding an existing headshape that suited, and extracting it. I have a feeling model editing wasn't really a thing until NBA Live 2003.
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Rodzilla91 on Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:59 pm

Andrew wrote:I don't think there was much 3D editing going on back then. I think it was just a matter of finding an existing headshape that suited, and extracting it. I have a feeling model editing wasn't really a thing until NBA Live 2003.


That's all good. I did the face textures for Rodman. I'm gonna have to do the arms and shoes
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Rodzilla91 on Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:48 pm

NEW CYBERFACES: DENNIS RODMAN 3 HAIR COLORS PACK

as ripped from my readme:

" 3 dennis rodmans (red hair, beach blonde hair, and green hair)

tattoos (courtesy of 2ks arm textures)

converse all star rodman shoes (textured by me) "


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Dennis Rodman 3 Hair Colors Pack ( w/ Converse All Star Rodman )



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Decided to go with the ones you suggested. I'll do more later if I feel like it. It was a tad bit annoying having to redo and rebuild the files with the textures I had to edit cause there was something off with the face, ya know, but it's good. I forgot you were a bulls fan so when I was picking out shoes I intended to find pics of the Air Darwins he wore during his tenure with the spurs - I couldn't find many pics. But I remembered you were a bulls fan and he had a signature converse shoe during the bulls (these were 97) so I did these and although with the shoe mapping the front gets pushed back on the model - it looks quite good. At least I think it does
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Andrew on Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:08 pm

I remember the ads featuring him and Latrell Sprewell. Thanks for those!
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Rodzilla91 on Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:11 pm

Andrew wrote:I remember the ads featuring him and Latrell Sprewell. Thanks for those!

(Y) No problem.

Any other hair colors? Or any you remember? Assuming you would remember them from back in the day. I'm sure google would yield some results though
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Andrew on Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:41 pm

He had some more complicated patterns, mixes of colours. Virtually a rainbow, in the 1997 Finals!

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And some strange patterns when he had that short stint with the Lakers in 1999:

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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Rodzilla91 on Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:44 pm

Andrew wrote:He had some more complicated patterns, mixes of colours. Virtually a rainbow, in the 1997 Finals!

[ Image ]

And some strange patterns when he had that short stint with the Lakers in 1999:

[ Image ]



Yeah that 97 one was amazing looking. Looks like those rugs your teacher has in kindergarten

And as for the lakers one I've seen that too. Looks like a cheetah print
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Postby Rodzilla91 on Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:16 pm

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NEW CYBERFACES: DENNIS RODMAN 4 HAIR COLORS PACK

as ripped from my readme:

" 4 dennis rodmans (yellow, cheetah print, red w/ bulls logo, and lime green)

tattoos (courtesy of 2ks arm textures)

converse all star rodman shoes (textured by me) "


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Dennis Rodman 4 Hair Colors Pack ( w/ Converse All Star Rodman )


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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Andrew on Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:30 pm

Good stuff all around!
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Rodzilla91 on Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:33 pm

Andrew wrote:Good stuff all around!


Thanks, my elbow is killing me for some reason so I'ma stop for now
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Rodzilla91 on Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:18 am

Haven't done NBA L2000 mods in awhile.. Might start back up.
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Andrew on Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:19 am

Always nice to see, it's a classic after all.
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Rodzilla91 on Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:21 am

Andrew wrote:Always nice to see, it's a classic after all.


Yeah, never lived during this game though. 1999 so I was born one year after this came out, and wrestling was my first thing.. So basketball didn't come until late for me



Is it weird that I prefer Live 98's gameplay to this one? It just feels so smoother. This game just feels stiff to me.
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Andrew on Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:39 am

On the whole I prefer 2000 myself, but NBA Live 98 is kind of underrated and overlooked when it comes to the classic games.
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Postby Rodzilla91 on Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:00 am

Just seemingly liked the gameplay of 98 more than 00. 00 is better in pretty much every way to me except the gameplay. That and the roster, I'm way more into crazy rodman and funky 90s logo teams
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Postby Andrew on Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:50 pm

NBA Live 98's gameplay holds up better than I expected when I revisited it. I don't know that I'd call it better than 2000, but it's at least comparable.

The major issue with games from that era, really most games up until around NBA Live 2004, is that physics and collisions were very primitive, and it was way too easy to lose the ball through incidental contact. That's just how it was of course, the technology had to get there before things could get better, but if there's one thing that makes the older games harder (or at least more frustrating) to play these days, it's the collision detection.
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Postby Rodzilla91 on Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:36 pm

Andrew wrote:NBA Live 98's gameplay holds up better than I expected when I revisited it. I don't know that I'd call it better than 2000, but it's at least comparable.

The major issue with games from that era, really most games up until around NBA Live 2004, is that physics and collisions were very primitive, and it was way too easy to lose the ball through incidental contact. That's just how it was of course, the technology had to get there before things could get better, but if there's one thing that makes the older games harder (or at least more frustrating) to play these days, it's the collision detection.


Man. I don't know haha, maybe it isn't better, but it looks way smoother to me (and plays smoother as well).

98 is like the only old game i can play and not get too bored, but like I said, i wasnt around when these games hit the shelves. I think I started playing NBA games around 08-09.
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Postby Andrew on Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:59 am

Definitely a fine game, either way.
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Postby Rodzilla91 on Mon May 01, 2017 8:36 am

No doubt.

I think about making patches but it's a lack of free time and a lack of motivation. I honestly haven't touched this game enough. But sometimes I think about making some all time greats. And maybe make a roster out of it.

Can't promise it, though. I have the same idea for 98 as well, but I don't think 98 can be modded as well as 2000 (correct me if I'm wrong)

Always comes back to 98 with me haha. A long time ago I tried using a Vm to play it and it didn't work. And i was so mad because i had downloaded a WWF roster and wanted to see how it looked. Long story short never ran good and I assume the site is down.

Funny thing is I made a Kane cyberface on 2k14 a few months back.. Donned his 97 red mask sleeved look. Not sure if you're into wrestling or was at any point in time.
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Postby Andrew on Mon May 01, 2017 11:18 am

I am, and got into it during the Attitude Era, so I'm quite familiar with that incarnation of Kane. :)

It's completely understandable. Creating mods and patches takes time, and the older the game, the smaller the audience, so it becomes harder to justify the time and effort. I'd say NBA Live 2000 is a bit easier than NBA Live 98, but they're both pretty moddable with the tools that are still available. I think updates for the classics are always appreciated, but these days they're obviously not going to get quite as many downloads, or as much attention. It's something you've got to keep in mind, and weigh up against your enthusiasm for doing something creative. If you can spare the time and creating it is fun for you, I say give it a shot. But again, it's completely understandable if you'd rather not.

I've got NBA Live 98 working in Windows 7, thanks to the steps outlined in the stickied thread. Only way I could get it to run under VMWare was through a Windows 2000 installation, though I haven't tried again following a few VMWare updates.
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Postby Rodzilla91 on Mon May 01, 2017 11:46 am

Andrew wrote:I am, and got into it during the Attitude Era, so I'm quite familiar with that incarnation of Kane. :)

That's cool, don't like what WWE is going with nowadays. Haven't "actually" watched wrestling since like '11/'12

Andrew wrote:It's completely understandable. Creating mods and patches takes time, and the older the game, the smaller the audience, so it becomes harder to justify the time and effort. I'd say NBA Live 2000 is a bit easier than NBA Live 98, but they're both pretty moddable with the tools that are still available. I think updates for the classics are always appreciated, but these days they're obviously not going to get quite as many downloads, or as much attention. It's something you've got to keep in mind, and weigh up against your enthusiasm for doing something creative. If you can spare the time and creating it is fun for you, I say give it a shot. But again, it's completely understandable if you'd rather not.


Definitely, I'm not expecting a lot of people to play it or whatnot, just doing it in freetime would be cool. The reason why I brought up Live 98 as a possible game for a project was because I have FUN playing it and I know how to play. Although the play call system still really bugs me and that I don't know 100% how to use it, or even know if it works properly, I still had more fun playing it than 00 for some reason. 00 is just really clunky to me. But I've obviously played one more than another.

Andrew wrote:I've got NBA Live 98 working in Windows 7, thanks to the steps outlined in the stickied thread. Only way I could get it to run under VMWare was through a Windows 2000 installation, though I haven't tried again following a few VMWare updates.


Same, but I don't think I can find that WWF patch at all anymore.
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Re: [NBA LIVE 2000] RODZILLA91 CYBERFACES/PATCHES THREAD

Postby Andrew on Mon May 01, 2017 11:55 am

That's the approach I took to the Definitive updates for NBA Live 95 and NBA Live 96. I wasn't expecting a bunch of downloads, and they ended up getting more than I expected, but it was just fun to revisit those games with some patching, as well as playing them again for the retrospective articles.
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Postby Rodzilla91 on Mon May 01, 2017 2:39 pm

Andrew wrote:That's the approach I took to the Definitive updates for NBA Live 95 and NBA Live 96. I wasn't expecting a bunch of downloads, and they ended up getting more than I expected, but it was just fun to revisit those games with some patching, as well as playing them again for the retrospective articles.


I do want to make a big roster for 00 or 98, but we all lose interest and go in and out of it sometimes. It's much less time spent making individual mods, but not a lot of interest from others. I just do what I wanna do ya know
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Postby Andrew on Mon May 01, 2017 2:54 pm

Absolutely. That's the right way to approach modding, otherwise it's very easy to get burned out on the hobby.
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