Again, certainly not rigged, but if you don't think the match was largely officiated Barcelona's way, I'm not sure we were watching the same broadcast. It was pretty blatant.Phil89 wrote:The irony of alleging that a competition was rigged against Juventus is hilarious, considering that they got relegated and stripped of league titles only nine years ago for rigging matches in Italy.
Oh, he's certainly not doing it all by himself, but he's much more integral to their success, offensively, than the other two, in my opinion. Regardless of the goals that Neymar and Suarez score (which I also gave them full credit for; that offensive arsenal is overwhelming and unbelievably impressive as a trio), Messi is the engine that fuels the offense, and the other two should thank him for their goals as much as they credit themselves. Almost all of Barcelona's threats against Juventus went through Messi, who was essentially responsible for the deciding goal in the match, as had Suarez not been there to knock in a sitter from six yards out, Rakitic was right there to do the same exact thing. Neymar scored a goal when Juve had committed their entire team forward to try for an equalizer, but no need to be nit picky, as a goal is a goal. My point in general was that, as tremendous goal scorers and players as Neymar and Suarez are (and Lord knows they are), they should be a lot more grateful for having Messi on their squad than he should be having them.Implying that Barcelona are carried on the shoulders of Messi is very ignorant. Suarez missed the first four months of the season and still managed to contribute 25 goals and 21 assists. Neymar became the first player ever to score in both quarter final games, both semi final games and the final of a CL season. He contributed 39 goals this season. No doubt Messi is the main guy, but he isn't doing it all by himself.
Pointing to two charitable things he's done does not take away from the fact that he is, in fact, a shithead. He's bitten opponents on the field. He's been banned and suspended for racial abuse of another player, which is far more reprehensible than the former act. He's also generally a dirty player on the pitch, largely regarded as one of the dirtiest players who has ever played. You don't get that moniker by accident, or because you're a boy scout. Almost all professional athletes make calls to fans and do other charitable things, which are great. It should be applauded. Some of them are still assholes. I could visit cancer patients and donate my entire 2015 salary to charity, and if I go home and beat my wife, I'm still a scumbag. A few good acts don't just cancel out and negate the bad.And yeah, what a scumbag Suarez is. What kind of asshole surprises a young cancer patient with a skype call. Or donates prize money from an award he won to a children's charity. Or gives up his free time to take part in a charity match at Anfield earlier this year.
What an awful human being he is.
bigh0rt wrote:Oh, he's certainly not doing it all by himself, but he's much more integral to their success, offensively, than the other two, in my opinion.Regardless of the goals that Neymar and Suarez score (which I also gave them full credit for; that offensive arsenal is overwhelming and unbelievably impressive as a trio), Messi is the engine that fuels the offense, and the other two should thank him for their goals as much as they credit themselves. Almost all of Barcelona's threats against Juventus went through Messi, who was essentially responsible for the deciding goal in the match, as had Suarez not been there to knock in a sitter from six yards out, Rakitic was right there to do the same exact thing. Neymar scored a goal when Juve had committed their entire team forward to try for an equalizer, but no need to be nit picky, as a goal is a goal. My point in general was that, as tremendous goal scorers and players as Neymar and Suarez are (and Lord knows they are), they should be a lot more grateful for having Messi on their squad than he should be having them.
Pointing to two charitable things he's done does not take away from the fact that he is, in fact, a shithead. He's bitten opponents on the field. He's been banned and suspended for racial abuse of another player, which is far more reprehensible than the former act. He's also generally a dirty player on the pitch, largely regarded as one of the dirtiest players who has ever played. You don't get that moniker by accident, or because you're a boy scout. Almost all professional athletes make calls to fans and do other charitable things, which are great. It should be applauded. Some of them are still assholes. I could visit cancer patients and donate my entire 2015 salary to charity, and if I go home and beat my wife, I'm still a scumbag. A few good acts don't just cancel out and negate the bad.
Ur Boi Bangs Chol wrote:Suarez didn't give up his 'free time'. It was international break and he was supposed to play for his national team but since he was still serving part of his match ban he played for Stevie G's testimonial/charity match instead.
Liverpool still has to part with £8m for Danny Ings, some English FA rule about big clubs paying small clubs restitution for developing a player if the player spent most of his career with 'small clubs'.
Messi is indeed great and IS the team but in the first half of the season Barca was a mess, Enrique being doubted because of Messi skipping practice, and Suarez even labeled as a flop that early.
It's no coincidence that despite their shit defense and now aged midfield Barca started dominating again once Suarez got settled playing with Messi and Neymar, or because Enrique finally had the epiphany of playing his £65m striker in the middle instead of the wing and stopped imitating the Guardiola model of Messi in the middle, a tactic which has run its course.
Qballer wrote:Any love for women's world cup? I watched us beat you aussies the other night
[Q] wrote:Any love for women's world cup? I watched us beat you aussies the other night
Phil89 wrote:Petr Cech joining Arsenal is an interesting move. Is he an upgrade over Szczęsny at 33 years old though?
[Q] wrote:Does Chelsea still have Diego Costa or did he leave? I think them getting Falcao puts them way ahead for the title already
stereoxide wrote:All that money for Sterling. I hope Liverpool spends it wisely unlike the Fernando Torres money which they used 70% to buy Andy Carroll.
Ur Boi Bangs Chol wrote:With the signings they made West Ham really looks serious in wanting to win Europa League, since winning it now guarantees a Champions League spot for next season.
Phil89 wrote:Only a week until the premier league starts again. Chelsea strong favourites again?
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