Request for feedback regarding micro-stuttering

[Disciple]

What a beast you have Phreak, but I could have guessed it judging by the 2k14 screenshots you posted in crazy high resolutions.

I'm running

i7 4770k 4.4 OC
780Ti
16GB at 1800+
With the game installed on Samsung 840 Evo SSD

The priority setting changed combined with running as admin does cut a chunk of the stop motion effect you talked about out. In no way is the game fixed because the stutter moments are still present though.

[Patr1ck]

I wonder if the titan is getting hot and then throttling the clocks back causing the stutter. I read this has happened in other games with people who had a titan. Is there a way to set the power management in the nvidia control panel for each game? I ask because I don't have an nvidia card.

[Phreak50]

Not at all. The Titan just doesn't get hot. My case is water cooled, huge, open, ventilated, there's 3 free slots under the GPU... I could go on, but I am very experienced in PC's, temps etc.

2K is just badly made I'm sorry.

[Patr1ck]

That's the weird thing. Why would a game made this year run fine on my stop, which is a couple of generations old, and not scream on your system?

Amd 6100 oc at 4ghz
16gb arm
Sapphire 7970 OC with boost

Could it be hyper threading?

[skoadam]

Phreak50, did u get stuttering in full stable fps? can u check when stuttering how much fps u got there?

[Brianbscotty]

God damn the word 'micro' doesn't even apply here.

Playing a full season game, 12 min qtrs. and pretty much with 4 minutes left in each qtr the game just chugs like a freaking stop motion animation.

My Specs should be laughing at this game:
i7 3770 4.1GHz
16GB system ram
Titan 6gb video ram

Game settings, max @1920x1080. Tried every Vsync option both in-game and in the Nvidia CP and tried every AA setting as well. No difference.

I feel ya.
3770k, running at 3.5 (not OC)
32 Gb 1600 ddr
Titan Black
Running the game off of Seagate Momentus XT 750 GB Hybrid.

[biggyca]

is this game compitable with d3doverrider?

[biggyca]

Ok here is my feedback.

Athlon 2 x4 3.6ghz OC
Hd 6750 1gb
6gb 1666mhz
500HDD

Settings: 1440x900, AA: 2-0, Textures:Med, Player: High, Crowds: Low, Shader: High, Vsync: 0ff. Config: Sumpersampling= 0

I was getting 40-45 fps in mycarrer and quick games and DID NOT experiencing MICRO-STUTTERING, but today i was overclocking my graphics card and i was getting in mycarrer and quick games 50-65. Then MICRO-STUTTERING occurred. Everytime fps would come to 60 stuttering occurred. and I KNOW and I CAN see the difference between FRAME DROPS and MICRO-STUTTERING. (sorry for bad english)

[DaveJB]

Interesting you guys talking about the micro stutters and audio. Early last year, I had been playing NBA 2k13 on my PC with no issues until I bought some Creative headphones (Tactic 3D alpha IIRC). When using the USB sound card that it comes with I'd get these kinds of issues; typically every 5 or 10 seconds a quick stutter. It happened only in this game. I tried everything to fix it but no go. Ended up getting different headphones.

Btw, after spending many hours testing different settings I've got the got running great. Specs below, though I don't remember all the settings.

Core i5 4670k (Haswell)
Older video card, AMD 5870 2 GB
8 GB RAM

I'll grab all my settings if anyone needs help. Lastly, I just received my new video card today (AMD R9 280).

it was wireless headphones?

No, why? When I unplugged the USB sound card that came with the phones and plugged the headphones directly into the back of the PC the stuttering went away.

[nextnba]

Also getting stuttering..tried the suggestions given in here..it seems to help slightly but didn't resolve it for me. It's not so bad that it's unplayable but it would be nice if someone found a solution.

[bigh0rt]

Also getting stuttering..tried the suggestions given in here..it seems to help slightly but didn't resolve it for me. It's not so bad that it's unplayable but it would be nice if someone found a solution.

Have you tried this?

I went into task manager and set my priority for NBA 2k15 to "Above Normal". Also, I set the affinity by unchecking a core, clicking OK, and then resetting it to use all cores again. Used to be a trick to solve micro-stuttering in NBA 2k13 and 2k14 and it seems to work for me on NBA 2k15 as well. Can anyone else confirm this works for them as well?

[nextnba]

Yep..I did that..why "above normal" and not "high". I assumed it make more since to set it to "high", although I tried both and no difference on either. I even updated my video and sound driver and that didn't help. Video card is a gtx 750 2gb. Even though it stutters during game play, everything else is very smooth and very fast. Menu is smooth, the game loads up very quick, everything else is amazing fast. No lag or stuttering anywhere except for game play. It's not stuttering so bad that it's unplayable at this point but right now I'm just testing the game out. I think once I start a season, the stuttering will annoyed the hell out of me.

[skoadam]

did you check your fps?

[BLaZiNgSPEED]

I get micro-stuttering too if I set everything to Medium+High. But if I select Crowd Detail to Low, Player Detail to Medium and Special Effects Off. With mostly everything else to Medium and High, game runs smoothly with no stuttering. MSAA to 4x with quality set to 3. Haven't tried with lower MSAA yet.

The problem is when I set Special Effects to On, then the slight stuttering appears. If I select Player Detail to High then the game freezes on 99% loading. Crowd Detail if it is Medium or High depending on the other settings will cause major freezes regardless of resolution settings. Selecting Priority to High doesn't have any impact on performance.

However, having said that the game on Crowd Detail to Low and Player Detail to Medium still beats NBA 2K14 PC maxed out. So I'm definitely pleased with that. Except that without Special Effects the court looks worse than 2K14. The wooden floor looks like crayon pastels.

[skoadam]

whats your spec?

[nextnba]

I get micro-stuttering too if I set everything to Medium+High. But if I select Crowd Detail to Low, Player Detail to Medium and Special Effects Off. With mostly everything else to Medium and High, game runs smoothly with no stuttering. MSAA to 4x with quality set to 3. Haven't tried with lower MSAA yet.

The problem is when I set Special Effects to On, then the slight stuttering appears. If I select Player Detail to High then the game freezes on 99% loading. Crowd Detail if it is Medium or High depending on the other settings will cause major freezes regardless of resolution settings. Selecting Priority to High doesn't have any impact on performance.

However, having said that the game on Crowd Detail to Low and Player Detail to Medium still beats NBA 2K14 PC maxed out. So I'm definitely pleased with that. Except that without Special Effects the court looks worse than 2K14. The wooden floor looks like crayon pastels.

Dam..ur spec must be really bad..I have an AMD Phenom x4, 8gb ram, GTX 750 2gb, playing on max and getting only a few micro-stuttering. My spec is not even that good.

[BLaZiNgSPEED]

Well these are my specs. They aren't bad, but neither are they great. I can max NBA 2K14 at 1920x1200 with 8x MSAA and get 60 frames per second. Yet NBA 2K15, although haven't tested FPS only runs smoothly if Player Detail is set to no higher than Medium and Crowd to Low with Special Effects Off. With On there's slight stuttering. I have lowered the MSAA to 4x. Maybe I need to test with 2x or less. And resolution is stuck to 1440x900 and can't increase it unless I set desktop resolution to something higher. Now I can run with those settings at 1920x1200 decently if desktop res is set to 1920x1200. I even overclocked the processor to 3 GHz a few weeks ago.

GPU temperatures are low, no higher than 60 degrees celcius. And GPU no higher than 68 degrees celcius. Lowering the resolution doesn't have much impact either. It's the player detail and crowd detail that seem to have the biggest impact on the stuttering. I tried Game Booster doesn't seem to improve much.

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz (4 CPUs), ~OC'd 3.0GHz
4 GB RAM DDR2 Micron Technology 667MHz ~OC 750MHz
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1
GIGABYTE NVIDIA GTX 560 Ti OC 1GB DDR5
Samsung T240 24 Inch LCD Monitor
Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Logitech Z520 Speakers
Logitech G11 Gaming Keyboard
Logitech G500 Gaming Mouse

[Nightfly67]

Well these are my specs. They aren't bad, but neither are they great. I can max NBA 2K14 at 1920x1200 with 8x MSAA and get 60 frames per second. Yet NBA 2K15, although haven't tested FPS only runs smoothly if Player Detail is set to no higher than Medium and Crowd to Low with Special Effects Off. With On there's slight stuttering. I have lowered the MSAA to 4x. Maybe I need to test with 2x or less. And resolution is stuck to 1440x900 and can't increase it unless I set desktop resolution to something higher. Now I can run with those settings at 1920x1200 decently if desktop res is set to 1920x1200. I even overclocked the processor to 3 GHz a few weeks ago.

GPU temperatures are low, no higher than 60 degrees celcius. And GPU no higher than 68 degrees celcius. Lowering the resolution doesn't have much impact either. It's the player detail and crowd detail that seem to have the biggest impact on the stuttering. I tried Game Booster doesn't seem to improve much.

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz (4 CPUs), ~OC'd 3.0GHz
4 GB RAM DDR2 Micron Technology 667MHz ~OC 750MHz
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1
GIGABYTE NVIDIA GTX 560 Ti OC 1GB DDR5
Samsung T240 24 Inch LCD Monitor
Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Logitech Z520 Speakers
Logitech G11 Gaming Keyboard
Logitech G500 Gaming Mouse

The fact that you can play NBA 2k14 maxed out, doesn't mean much anymore. The current gen engine 2k15 uses is much more demanding and with a rig like yours I wouldn't expect much in terms of being able to max anything out.

[skoadam]

BLaZiNgSPEED, Here is your sets,
All on high. Texture quality on medium. Special effect on. AAx2, AA quality 2, 1920x108. If u still got frame drop, set AA quality to 0. U will still get frame drops in cutscenes. All of us got them there. All should run smooth without OC. CPU can be 3ghz. Enjoy.

[Phreak50]

The stutter seems to have very little to do with our system specs and what detail settings we are using.

I spent a couple hours testing today with interesting results.

My frame rate is being reported by fraps and afterburner of about 90 frames per second. This is on max settings (anti aliasing on about medium).

Now we know 60fps should be silky smooth but it's just the opposite. My minimum fps did not drop much at all and even with the high frame rate, the game is stuttering noticeably.

Forcing Vsync and basically locking the frame rate to 60fps doesn't make a difference at all. Still stuttering.

The same for lowering the settings. Even on minimum settings the game still stutters.

Out of curiousity, I increased the refresh rate to 120hz (my monitor is 120/144) and the screen tears like mad and the stutter is worse.

It really is looking like just a plain and simple, bad PC port.

[skoadam]

I was asking whats your monitor, model.

[Phreak50]

Replied in the patch thread

Ok so did some offline tests. Still stutters when fully offline but what I have found is that some (not all) of the stutters occur in the same place if you go back into the replay.

Which to me, shows that there is a problem with the way the camera is tracking and following the ball.

Not sure if it will be visible in this capture, but it's full HD so let's see... the stutter happens when the camera starts to pan right to left, just before Parker catches the ball.

phpBB [video]

During live play there is stuttering from the inbounder to the receiver. Even in the replay (from the same camera) this is visible. Yet, when switching views, it goes away (as the camera tracks differently).

It doesn't explain the other stutters, like the small freezes during rebounds or turnovers (from what I could tell, they were different and not visible in replays) but if the camera is having trouble following the ball and giving the impression of stuttering, hopefully it's some place for the devs to start.

[BLaZiNgSPEED]

BLaZiNgSPEED, Here is your sets,
All on high. Texture quality on medium. Special effect on. AAx2, AA quality 2, 1920x108. If u still got frame drop, set AA quality to 0. U will still get frame drops in cutscenes. All of us got them there. All should run smooth without OC. CPU can be 3ghz. Enjoy.

Well there was a slight improvement. If I set 1920x1080 res with mostly everything on high except for Texture. Then at least I can get past the loading screen. The game is playable but stutters. Lowering the AA quality didn't make a difference. At 1920x1200 with Aspect Ratio Correction Off it's impossible to get past loading screen after the initial team selection. It would freeze for a few seconds but then unfreeze, freeze and unfreeze... So it's impossible to play like this.

But with 1920x1080 the game at least runs and doesn't freeze. However, after 1 or 2 hours after I exited the game back to desktop and then when I launched the game again the game started freezing after loading screen. It's no ordinary stutter. However, going to Task Manager and setting NBA 2K15 Priority to Real Time eliminates most of the stuttering but only initially. But this then causes commentary, crowd sound to crackle. I still decided to play like that, but after 1 hour or so the game started freezing again!

Then I exited the game and then noticed that one of my svchost.exe jumped to 143k memory. That might explain why this freezing all started. Because when I restart the computer, play the game again. There's no freezing. After 1-2 hours of playing svchost jumps to 143k. This is directly caused due to NBA 2K15. It's not a virus as that doesn't occur with any other game.

Only if I play the game on mostly everything on Low-Medium the game is playable without freezing or stutters. But I would've expected better performance even for my rig. Considering that this game's minimum cpu requirement is a dual core...4 GB RAM should theoretically be more than enough if this passes the Recommended. But I feel this game requires a heftier PC than even the system requirements listed... I can't upgrade my graphics card, it will bottleneck under my Quad Core Q8400 CPU. So I was thinking to at least play on my current PC for 1-2 years and then make a complete PC build. Will have to wait for patch I guess, I feel that this game has room for better optimization..

[skoadam]

BLaZiNgSPEED, Dude first of all stuttering exist even on Titan Black so just relax. Wait for patch. Second if u will use my sets u should get smooth 60fps. No other way. Im on i7 930, now without OC, on default clocks with 2,8ghz+auto boost so its 3ghz. With 470gtx SOC version and 6gb of ram. Dude u must be very close to me. I know Q8200 is not i7, but its not so important here. Maybe u've got some problems with "only 1gb" on your card since mine have 1.25GB. All you have to do is buy card with more GDDR5 memory. If u dont want to make "downgrade" to 4xx series, just buy 570 or 580gtx and u will be good. Your Q8200 shouldn''t limit 6xx series from nvidia. Look for second hand gpu, it will be veeery cheap. Also your Q8200 should go higher than @3ghz

[PainB]

Can someone help me with that trick? I don't get it, if I disable all cores I can't press OK
I have fx-6300(6 core cpu)


I went into task manager and set my priority for NBA 2k15 to "Above Normal". Also, I set the affinity by unchecking a core, clicking OK, and then resetting it to use all cores again. Used to be a trick to solve micro-stuttering in NBA 2k13 and 2k14 and it seems to work for me on NBA 2k15 as well. Can anyone else confirm this works for them as well?