shadowgrin wrote:Quick question: who is better in basketball, a black dude or a pinoy dude. If you thought or considered for a moment that it's the black dude then you're also a little bit racist.
End of any racist discussion.
benji wrote:Except this assumes all teams have an equal chance of making the playoffs, they don't. If you take a team that best case, hardest working, play all the veterans, never give up, never surrender can win 25 games, and they wind up with the 14th pick, what's the fucking point? Entire season wasted and they're supposed to do it again? Wouldn't they AND the league be better off with them playing young guys and d-leaguers, winning 15 games, guaranteeing a top four pick and adding more talent? (While those veterans can scrape onto superior teams improving the high level play of the playoffs!)
The draft is the only "balance" system that exists and you can still fuck that up by taking Oden over Durant or Olowokandi over Maceo Baston as much as you can get lucky and in two or three years stock yourself back to the playoffs.
It's just another obsessive wankfest over what "proper sporting culture" should be where you're supposed to sacrifice your best interests at the alter of some nonexistent unspecific higher moral plane. It's nonsense.
dei. wrote:No one's going to talk about Kyle Korver record of hitting a 3 for 90 consecutive games?
NovU wrote:But moral issue still exists to some degrees as long as you're punishing teams that aren't good enough yet fighting hard to win games
NovU wrote:Quite the contrary. Cheating shouldn't be considered a being smart.
Yao_Ming wrote:Speaking of cheating, Korver kindaaaaa cheated, he missed a game or so with a rib injury, so it's not exactly 90 straight. You know what I mean?
shadowgrin wrote:Quick question: who is better in basketball, a black dude or a pinoy dude. If you thought or considered for a moment that it's the black dude then you're also a little bit racist.
End of any racist discussion.
benji wrote:NovU wrote:Quite the contrary. Cheating shouldn't be considered a being smart.
How is it cheating to intentionally undermine your teams present success for future success?
benji wrote:It's just another obsessive wankfest over what "proper sporting culture" should be where you're supposed to sacrifice your best interests at the alter of some nonexistent unspecific higher moral plane. It's nonsense.
benji wrote:How is it cheating to intentionally undermine your teams present success for future success?
dei. wrote:Yao_Ming wrote:Speaking of cheating, Korver kindaaaaa cheated, he missed a game or so with a rib injury, so it's not exactly 90 straight. You know what I mean?
He didn't play a minute in those games, but I think the consecutive steak only counts if you play a minute and shoot a 3.
NovU wrote:The idea of outright throwing games and trying to lose is always appalling at its core value in any sports world.
Giving healthy players DNP-CD is an example of outright tanking.
Rebuilding is different.
The problem is outright tankers get an edge in 'Rebuilding'.
I think it's only natural for people to be pondering what changes can be made so the teams don't purposely have to lose for anything.
benji wrote:Why is it appalling?
benji wrote:Rebuilding is different.
How?
benji wrote:You have yet to identify any problem except for these nebulous sporting morals of yours that are being offended by others doing things in their best interest.
NovU wrote:Because it is.
"playing to lose" is stupid and immoral, ultimately detrimental to the sports.
There's a large gulf, however, between intending to lose and positioning your resources toward future success rather than immediate rewards.
I don't blame the teams doing shit to their best interest but wouldn't it be nice to improve the system so they don't have to play to lose?
Martti. wrote:Nets gave all their picks to Boston, so Boston's fine with that.
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