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Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby JaoSming on Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:26 am

Big Thanks to juslovemusic for mapping all these out!

With this HoS profile, the first 126 values are for the default sliders, 127-252 are casual sliders (used for Blacktop too), 253-378 are Simulation sliders, and 379 on are the simulation sliders a second time. Values are in pairs, first the user value, then the CPU value. The order of these pairs were mapped out by juslovemusic and shown below.

All in One Updated.zip


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Stealing (User)     
     
Blocking (User)     
     
Speed (User)     
     
Ball Handling (User)   
     
Dunking Ability (User)   
     
Offensive Awareness (User)   
     
Deffensive Awareness (User)   
     
Offensive Rebounding (User)   
     
Deffensive Rebounding (User)   
     
Strength (User)     
     
Quickness (User)     
     
Hustle (User)     
     
Consistency (User)     
     
Durability (User)     
     
Stamina (User)     
     
Hands (User)     
     
Vertical (User)     
     
On Ball Defense (User)   
     
Alley Oop Success (User)   
     
Contact Shot Success (User)   
     
Inside Shot Success (User)   
     
Close Shot Success (User)   
     
Mid Range Shot Success (User) 
     
3 Point Success (User)   
     
Layup Success (User)   
     
Dunk In Traffic Frequency (User) 
     
Dunk In Traffic Success (User) 
     
Backdoor Cuts (User)   
     
Pass Accuracy (User)   
     
Steal Success (User)   
     
Driving Contact Shot Frequency (User) 
     
Inside Contact Shot Frequency (User) 
     
Layup Defense Strength Takeoff (User) 
     
Layup Defense Strength Release (User) 
     
Jumpshot Defense Strength Gather (User) 
     
Jumpshot Defense Release (User)   
     
Over The Back Foul Frequency (User)
     
Charging Foul Frequency (User)   
     
Blocking Foul Frequency (User)   
     
Reaching Foul Frequency (User)   
     
Shooting Foul Frequency (User)   
     
Loose Ball Foul Frequency (User) 
     
Injury Frequency (User)   
     
Injury Severity (User)   
     
Fatigue Rate (User)   
     
Unused     
     
Unused     
     
Attempt Dunks (User)   
     
Unused     
     
Attempt Putbacks (User)   
     
Unused     
     
Play Passing Lanes (User)   
     
Go For On Ball Steals (User)
     
Contest Shots (User)   
     
Take Post Shots (User)   
     
Help Defense Strength (User)   
     
Take Inside Shots (User)   
     
Take Close Shots (User)   
     
Take Mid Range Shots (User) 
     
Take 3 Point Shots (User) 
     
Attack The Basket (User)   
     
Look For Post Players (User) 
     
Throw Alley Oops (USer)   
     






This is one of those cases where I found something, it could be helpful, but I just do not have the time to complete it because the end result does not benefit me at all.

The tunedata.iff stores the game's default sliders, as in the slider sets that show up when you select default/casual/simulation sliders. If you were to change the slider set for the game's default sliders, this transfers over to the other modes (yes, including MyCAREER). I tested this by turning everything to 100 and playing a crazy MC Rookie Showcase game.

Now, again,I don't care about sliders enough to finish this off, but if someone figures out what each value changes, I wouldn't mind creating a better HoS profile for you all. I just don't want to do the grunt work of figuring out each value, especially since they are not in any kind of order (except they are split between default/sim/casual).

So anyway, here is what you need to do.

    Download Hex on Steroids if you haven't already, and run it at least once.

    Download this (must be logged in) and put the Sliders folder in your Documents/Hex On Steroids/Profiles/ folder
    Sliders.zip


    Open HoS again, goto Profiles, Profile List, Sliders, All In One. Then load a decompressed (use 2Kx Mod Tool if need be) tunedata.iff. A bunch of decimals should show up in a single column.

    Change some stuff, find your change in game, and let me know which row does what. Unfortunately, you need to restart the entire game each time you make a change in the file to reload it. And you will need to cycle between casual/default/simulation for the new changes to show up.
Here is what I know so far, I think for the Default slider set.
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0   Stealing   Attribute
1   CPU   Stealing
2   Blocking   Attribute
3   CPU   Blocking
4   Speed   Attribute
5   CPU   Speed
6   Ball Handling   Attribute
7   CPU   Ball Handling
8   Dunking   Attribute
9   CPU   Dunking
10   O Aware   Attribute
11   CPU   O Aware
12   D Aware   Attribute
13   CPU   D Aware
14   O Boards   Attribute
15   CPU   O Boards
16   D Boards   Attribute
17   CPU   D Boards
18   Strength   Attribute
19   CPU   Strength
20   Quickness   Attribute
21   CPU   Quickness


So yea, anyone interested?
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby mlp111 on Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:59 am

this is awesome, cant wait to play around with this! Thanks bro!
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby GameTime on Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:05 pm

Having problem with decompression..
It popups a error :&
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby JGSTrench on Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:18 pm

I've tracked up to 110 which seems to be most of the default settings. After 35, I'm making the assumption that each following address is the CPU equivalent, considering that seems to be a solid pattern. '???'s are ones that when changed to multiple different values had no discernible effect on the default slider, so if someone wants to check those out, feel free.

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0   Stealing   Attribute
1   CPU   Stealing
2   Blocking   Attribute
3   CPU   Blocking
4   Speed   Attribute
5   CPU   Speed
6   Ball Handling   Attribute
7   CPU   Ball Handling
8   Dunking   Attribute
9   CPU   Dunking
10   O Aware   Attribute
11   CPU   O Aware
12   D Aware   Attribute
13   CPU   D Aware
14   O Boards   Attribute
15   CPU   O Boards
16   D Boards   Attribute
17   CPU   D Boards
18   Strength   Attribute
19   CPU   Strength
20   Quickness   Attribute
21   CPU   Quickness
22   Hustle  Attribute
23   CPU Hustle
24   Consistency  Attribute
25   CPU Consistency
26   Durability  Attribute
27   CPU Durability
28   Stamina Attribute
29   CPU Stamina
30   Hands att
31   Cpu Hands
32   Vertical Attribute
33   CPU Vertical
34   On-Ball D Atttribute
35   CPU On-Ball D
36   Alley-Oop Success
37
38   Contact Shot Success
39
40   Inside Shot Success
41
42   Close Shot Success
43
44   Mid-Range Success
45
46   3PT Success
47
48   Layup Success
49
50   Dunk In Traffic Freq
51
52   Dunk In Traffic Success
53
54   Backdoor Cut Tendency
55
56   Pass Accuracy
57
58   Steal Success
59
60   Driving Contact Shot Freq
61
62   Inside Contact Shot Freq
63
64   Layup Defense Strength Takeoff
65
66   Layup Defense Strength Release
67
68   Jump Shot Defense Strength Gather
69
70   Jump Shot Defense Strength Release
71
72   Over The Back Foul Freq
73
74   Charging Foul Freq
75
76   Blocking Foul Freq
77
78   Reaching Foul Freq
79
80   Shooting Foul Freq
81
82   Loose Ball Foul Freq
83
84   Injury Frequency Attribute
85
86   Injury Severity Attribute
87
88   Fatigue Rate Attribute
89
90 ???
91
92 ???
93
94   Attempt Dunks Tendencies
95
96 ???
97 
98  Attempt Putbacks Tendencies
99
100 ???
101
102   Play Passing Lanes Tendencies
103
104   Go For On-Ball Steals Tendencies
105
106   Contest Shots Tendencies
107
108   Post Shot Tendencies
109
110   Help Defense Strength
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby JaoSming on Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:25 am

GameTime wrote:Having problem with decompression..
It popups a error :&

using 2Kx Mod Tool?
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby juslovemusic on Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:26 pm

Started from the bottom... I wont continue the saying but I did find the simulation sliders. First off 424 and on don't seem to be attributed to game sliders.
Here are the simulation sliders I found. The "empty" spots following "user" sliders are "cpu" sliders for the same setting. I skipped out on the fouls because I didn't personally need them and it's after 5am now. They're located somewhere in the 200's but you can probably find them quickly by searching the gap in-between my lowest and highest. Assign .01, .02, .03, .04 etc to a large batch of the unknowns to find them quickly in game. Took me under 2 hours to find and log these. :)

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Offense

292 Inside Shot Success (User)
293
294 Close Shot Success (User)
295
296 Mid Range Shot Success (User)
297
298 3 Point Success (User)
299
300 Layup Success (User)
301
302 Dunk In Traffic Frequency (User)
303
304 Dunk In Traffic Success (User)
305
308 Pass Accuracy (User)
309
288 Alley Oop Success (User)
289
290 Contact Shot Success (User)
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Defense




310 Steal Success (User)
311
312 Driving Contact Shot Frequency (User)
313
314 Inside Contact Shot Frequency (User)
315
316 Layup Defense Strength Takeoff (User)
317
318 Layup Defense Strength Release (User)
319
320 Jumpshot Defense Strength Gather (User)
321
362 Help Defense Strength (User)
363

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Attributes

272 Quickness (User)
273
284 Vertical (User)
285
270 Strength (User)
271
280 Stamina (User)
281
256 Speed (User)
257
278 Durability (User)
279
274 Hustle (User)
275
258 Ball Handling (User)
259
282 Hands (User)
283
260 Dunking Ability (User)
261
286 On Ball Defense (User)
287
252 Stealing (User)
253
254 Blocking (User)
255
262 Offensive Awareness (User)
263
264 Deffensive Awareness (User)
265
266 Offensive Rebounding (User)
267
268 Deffensive Rebounding (User)
269
276 Consistency (User)
277
340 Fatigue Rate (User)
341
336 Injury Frequency (User)
337
338 Injury Severity (User)
339
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Tendencies

306 Backdoor Cuts (User)
307
346 Attempt Dunks (User)
347
350 Attempt Putbacks (User)
351
354 Play Passing Lanes (User)
355
356 Go For On Ball Steals (User)
357
358 Contest Shots (User)
359
364 Take Inside Shots (User)
365
366 Take Close Shots (User)
367
368 Take Mid Range Shots (User)
369
370 Take 3 Point Shots (User)
371
360 Take Post Shots (User)
361
372 Attack The Basket (User)
373
374 Look For Post Players (User)
375
376 Throw Alley Oops (USer)
377

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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby juslovemusic on Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:18 pm

And the last of them...

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Fouls

324 Over The Back Foul Frequency (User)
325
326 Charging Foul Frequency (User)
327
328 Blocking Foul Frequency (User)
329
330 Reaching Foul Frequency (User)
331
332 Shooting Foul Frequency (User)
333
334 Loose Ball Foul Frequency (User)
335

Defense

322 Jumpshot Defense Release (User)
323


Now you have a way to apply custom sliders and sets to my career. Hope this helps!
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby JaoSming on Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:09 pm

great job (Y) (Y)
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby raynaldrogelio on Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:15 pm

sir. i just want to ask if can you make me a 2k14 tunedata.iff which is all normal because i cant edit back my tunedata.iff and i want to play normal in my career. tnx
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby JaoSming on Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:27 pm

no, this is why we backup files before we edit them.
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby _Steve_ on Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:44 pm

JaoSming wrote:no, this is why we backup files before we edit them.

You forgot to mention that we don't share original game files... ;)
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby JaoSming on Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:50 am

eh, I told him on YouTube


juslovemusic, I didn't get time to make changes to the profiles just yet, but I didn't forget about it.
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby Roberto on Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:57 am

could you make these cfs?
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby hot_wyre21 on Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:22 am

Do any of these values in the tunedata file correspond to the shooting type and free throw shooting type gameplay options? Trying to get the default set to real player % but so far i haven't had any luck.
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby JaoSming on Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:47 am

just sliders
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby juslovemusic on Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:58 pm

JaoSming wrote:juslovemusic, I didn't get time to make changes to the profiles just yet, but I didn't forget about it.


I left everything at vanilla sim settings for HoF but lowered consistency on both sides to taste. Plays better than any slider set I've used last year, mainly because the new animations/physics eliminate a lot of the cheese. Consistency seemed to eliminate every cpu player shooting like Kobe. I'll be happy to see what you come up with. I'm a huge fan of low scoring bulls-like (defensive-minded) games.
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby sverige42 on Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:31 am

Just a question, the user changes affect the user team for "My Carrer" mode ? Or CPU affects my teammates ?

EDIT : Okay it seems to affect all your team
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby flipboi15 on Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:16 am

hey guys, i backed up my default tunedata.iff before I pasted Skidrow's modified tunedata.iff but now I can't get back the default settings. This tunedata.iff ruined my experience with mycareer as everything is so easy and the CPU is just dumb. Ive already finished a season with mycareer playing legit. I only tried this tunedata.iff so that I could modify the sliders to be more realistic, but it did everything for me. If someone could please help me get back the default settings it would be GREATLY appreciated, as I dont want to start a whole nother mycareer. I also tried repairing my NBA 2k14 hoping it would fix my tunedata.iff but no luck either. I downloaded a supposedly untouched tunedata.iff and still no good either :(. Thanks guys.
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby juslovemusic on Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:25 am

make a backup then delete your tunedata.iff file. Verify cache through steam or repair with whichever version of the installer you have. The missing tunedata.iff file will be replaced with the vanilla one. Always make backups of your untouched files before you change them. :wink:
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby Lobi7o23 on Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:31 am

Only miss the Default Tendencys Sliders
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby hot_wyre21 on Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:49 am

you should be able to restore the original tunedata settings if you go into your 2k14 saves folder and delete the settings file, and then restart the game
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby JaoSming on Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:17 pm

hot_wyre21 wrote:you should be able to restore the original tunedata settings if you go into your 2k14 saves folder and delete the settings file, and then restart the game

this is editing the file that the game references for "default" sliders. This is why we backup before editing right people?


flipboi15, the sliders may have saved into your save file, dunno what you can do
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby Maverick on Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:04 am

Jao, somebody made a tutorial for this -> http://www.moddingway.com/file/37703.html and a video -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyWg_382mUs This might help if its still needed. :)
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby JaoSming on Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:06 am

nice
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Re: Change Game Default Sliders (HoS Research, Help Needed)

Postby seanjohn2525 on Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:19 am

i want to test it bro.. but im not familiar about the hex on steroid.. can i use hex workshop??
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