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Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby JaoSming on Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:27 am

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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary at 5pm EST

Postby skoadam on Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:22 am

jeez my mistakeeee, did we saw something new?
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary at 5pm EST

Postby JaoSming on Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:43 am

no footage, a few new signature skills. Pretty meh overall.

Coast to Coast, board, run, score.
Scrapper was split into scrapper without the rebounding boost, and a Rebounding specific signature skill
Specific sig skills for the pick and roll screener and ball handler
Flashy Passer
and the LeBron exclusive coast to coast that adds finisher abilities from 2K13
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary at 5pm EST

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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby BronBron06 on Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:01 pm

Hope they improve AI defense else cause I feel LeBron coast to coast might be abused for like 90% of the game with fastbreaks due to probably outrunning most people

BTW whats the definition / scope of change of possession, does it even include when opponents scored?
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:39 am

So, we will have around 35 sigs in 2k14? That's cool.

The LeBron Coast to Coast(awesome :D) is pretty much a bit advanced version of the One Man Fastbreak.


BronBron06 wrote:BTW whats the definition / scope of change of possession, does it even include when opponents scored?

Yes, I think it does. Otherwise they would have said "following a steal"?
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby skoadam on Sun Sep 01, 2013 8:03 am

First thing, remove all sigs skills and leave only 2,3 which not causing nonreal gameplay. Those great sigs skills kill gameplay in 2k13. Maybe they fix this in 2k14.
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby JaoSming on Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:27 am

:eh: what

These have only helped the individuality of each player while keeping their effects subtle and balanced....the only signature still that was broken/exploitable in 2K13 was Acrobat and they just stopped using it in their roster updates.
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby KingDarealHD on Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:24 am

I like rosters and stuff, but he complains about everything on NBA 2k14. I dont why he does it.
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Sun Sep 01, 2013 12:32 pm

He's trying to create a 2k14 rebel group.
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby skoadam on Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:04 pm

I should say, guys can you please stop complaining about my complains lol, i just point what i dont like, i supose you like everything you see. If u call me 2k14 rebel group just because i point few issues which are probably not fixed(still hope like year to year it will be) so i can call all of you 2k14 hype group. Cmon its just free talk on forum about some new game and u guys react like we talk about future of the world. In some other threads about 2k14 some kid even imagine that i complain about graphic but i never did that. Just sh sh sh guys.
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby koberulz on Sun Sep 01, 2013 6:30 pm

I'm just waiting for the day 2k makes the entire game a pre-order bonus.
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby KingDarealHD on Sun Sep 01, 2013 10:43 pm

skoadam wrote:I should say, guys can you please stop complaining about my complains lol, i just point what i dont like, i supose you like everything you see. If u call me 2k14 rebel group just because i point few issues which are probably not fixed(still hope like year to year it will be) so i can call all of you 2k14 hype group. Cmon its just free talk on forum about some new game and u guys react like we talk about future of the world. In some other threads about 2k14 some kid even imagine that i complain about graphic but i never did that. Just sh sh sh guys.


This is the future of the world man dont you get it. The key to all of humanity is inside of that beautiful case, i take that Lebron is on the cover. Anyway you get my point. thee who like the game will rise to a safe haven everyone else will perish. lmao.
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby CharlesAdams3rd on Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:24 am

JMaster12 wrote:
skoadam wrote:I should say, guys can you please stop complaining about my complains lol, i just point what i dont like, i supose you like everything you see. If u call me 2k14 rebel group just because i point few issues which are probably not fixed(still hope like year to year it will be) so i can call all of you 2k14 hype group. Cmon its just free talk on forum about some new game and u guys react like we talk about future of the world. In some other threads about 2k14 some kid even imagine that i complain about graphic but i never did that. Just sh sh sh guys.


This is the future of the world man dont you get it. The key to all of humanity is inside of that beautiful case, i take that Lebron is on the cover. Anyway you get my point. thee who like the game will rise to a safe haven everyone else will perish. lmao.
Skoadam is always unnecessarily negative though. Everyone has their opinions, but I haven't seen one optimistic comment from this guy.
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby JaoSming on Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:09 am

He doesn't need to optimistic, he is more than allowed, hell, encouraged to share his opinion with us just as we want all of you to do as well.

My problem with skoadam is that he makes claims like Signature Skills ruin the game without backing any of these claims up, and ignores replies to him. Instead he just comes back with insulting people who like the new features instead of being intelligent about it.
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby SoF'nAwesome on Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:44 am

Hey! You can't explain AI :roll:

Also, there is a difference between constantly whining & sharing your opinion. But I don't want to start anything here. As wise JaoSming said, everybody is free to their own opinion.
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby CharlesAdams3rd on Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:04 am

Like I said, I don't mind opinions but this guy attacks everyone who likes the game and always has something negative to say. If you don't like it, fine. All I'm saying is stop trying to make others dislike it because you do.
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby skoadam on Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:26 am

JaoSming wrote:He doesn't need to optimistic, he is more than allowed, hell, encouraged to share his opinion with us just as we want all of you to do as well.

My problem with skoadam is that he makes claims like Signature Skills ruin the game without backing any of these claims up, and ignores replies to him. Instead he just comes back with insulting people who like the new features instead of being intelligent about it.

First of all, sry to hear you got problem with me. Second, my mistake about sigs skill(beside acrobat), i was thinking about PlayType which are real pain in rosters-i dont know why-just tired. Sry, my mistake, im not hiding i just did not read your previous post.
And last, if i post my opinion FIRST, other respond i have to defend my opinion WITH ARGUMENTS. Most of you, did not use arguments, all of you talking about attacking and complaining and respond without arguments mean attack for me. IM USING ARGUMENTS WHICH ARE STRONLGY CONNECTED WITH YEAR TO YEAR WISHLIST. BUGS/ISSUES LIST, i cant see there attacks, why? Because all of this list are after premiere, well i just stop for now and wait until all of you poor users attacked by bad skoadam people start complaining on gameplay issues.
And one word about my posts which all are against 2k, no good word from me about game. Serious? U are reading all of my posts? Or you just choose only negative posts? For me its another attack on my person. Why? NO ARGUMENTS AND FACTS.
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby CharlesAdams3rd on Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:14 am

skoadam wrote:
JaoSming wrote:He doesn't need to optimistic, he is more than allowed, hell, encouraged to share his opinion with us just as we want all of you to do as well.

My problem with skoadam is that he makes claims like Signature Skills ruin the game without backing any of these claims up, and ignores replies to him. Instead he just comes back with insulting people who like the new features instead of being intelligent about it.

First of all, sry to hear you got problem with me. Second, my mistake about sigs skill(beside acrobat), i was thinking about PlayType which are real pain in rosters-i dont know why-just tired. Sry, my mistake, im not hiding i just did not read your previous post.
And last, if i post my opinion FIRST, other respond i have to defend my opinion WITH ARGUMENTS. Most of you, did not use arguments, all of you talking about attacking and complaining and respond without arguments mean attack for me. IM USING ARGUMENTS WHICH ARE STRONLGY CONNECTED WITH YEAR TO YEAR WISHLIST. BUGS/ISSUES LIST, i cant see there attacks, why? Because all of this list are after premiere, well i just stop for now and wait until all of you poor users attacked by bad skoadam people start complaining on gameplay issues.
And one word about my posts which all are against 2k, no good word from me about game. Serious? U are reading all of my posts? Or you just choose only negative posts? For me its another attack on my person. Why? NO ARGUMENTS AND FACTS.
It's not about anyone attacking anyone here. I'd like to just have a peaceful discussion. And I saw the thread where you called out 2k for being lazy and even argued with and attacked Leftos. I would just like to see less complaining and more care for others opinions. I respect that your dislike a lot of things about the game, but you don't seem to respect those who do enjoy it and don't complain.
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby JaoSming on Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:16 am

skoadam wrote:U are reading all of my posts? Or you just choose only negative posts?

Let's take a looksee
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From oldest to newest in I see (in paraphrases); complaint about online, complaint about euroleague teams, 2k11 was best, 2K should give us a roster editor, 2K14=2K13, only a few animations added for a year of work, 2K doesn't work hard, 2K is lazy and going after Leftos, 2K downgrades on PC, 2K is lazy again, do not try to convince me 2K14 is improved, community mods are better than 2k official work, community fixes the games each year for 2K, overly defensive reply to me without actually answering any of the questions I asked you or you back down from the claims you make, more defensiveness and claiming you have a right to preach to us like you do, defending against shadow, saying the trailer was great, complain about no pc demo, 2K's AI sucks and doesn't change no matter what, in 2 years PC will get equal versions, complaining about another user's predictions on overall ratings, post about the live stream, post about missing the live stream, complaint about crew, signature skills kill gameplay, more complaints about AI, liked Kobe's shot, defensive against community, then this post.

You had 2 positive posts out of 32 in this subforum. Another 3 or 4 at most were neutral. Don't try to backpedal on this, we all know how you are behaving because we read it, and the complaints from other members is just emphasizing it. Make your point, move on, and it wouldn't kill you do try and be constructive with your criticisms instead of saying sig skills kill gameplay, default scoreboard is terrible and no one ever likes it, developers are lazy, only a few animations get added and nothing else, online doesn't work right, etc, etc, etc. (BTW, why do you keep complaining about online graphics? it was fixed in 2K13, online runs at high graphics.)
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby CharlesAdams3rd on Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:48 am

JaoSming wrote:
skoadam wrote:U are reading all of my posts? Or you just choose only negative posts?

Let's take a looksee
search.php?keywords=&terms=all&author=skoadam&fid%5B%5D=151&sc=1&sf=all&sr=posts&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
From oldest to newest in I see (in paraphrases); complaint about online, complaint about euroleague teams, 2k11 was best, 2K should give us a roster editor, 2K14=2K13, only a few animations added for a year of work, 2K doesn't work hard, 2K is lazy and going after Leftos, 2K downgrades on PC, 2K is lazy again, do not try to convince me 2K14 is improved, community mods are better than 2k official work, community fixes the games each year for 2K, overly defensive reply to me without actually answering any of the questions I asked you or you back down from the claims you make, more defensiveness and claiming you have a right to preach to us like you do, defending against shadow, saying the trailer was great, complain about no pc demo, 2K's AI sucks and doesn't change no matter what, in 2 years PC will get equal versions, complaining about another user's predictions on overall ratings, post about the live stream, post about missing the live stream, complaint about crew, signature skills kill gameplay, more complaints about AI, liked Kobe's shot, defensive against community, then this post.

You had 2 positive posts out of 32 in this subforum. Another 3 or 4 at most were neutral. Don't try to backpedal on this, we all know how you are behaving because we read it, and the complaints from other members is just emphasizing it. Make your point, move on, and it wouldn't kill you do try and be constructive with your criticisms instead of saying sig skills kill gameplay, default scoreboard is terrible and no one ever likes it, developers are lazy, only a few animations get added and nothing else, online doesn't work right, etc, etc, etc. (BTW, why do you keep complaining about online graphics? it was fixed in 2K13, online runs at high graphics.)


Point exactly. It's not like anyone is trying to come down on Skoadam but its becoming overwhelming to see him put a damper on just about every post.
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby skoadam on Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:51 am

JaoSming wrote:
skoadam wrote:U are reading all of my posts? Or you just choose only negative posts?

Let's take a looksee
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From oldest to newest in I see (in paraphrases); complaint about online, complaint about euroleague teams, 2k11 was best, 2K should give us a roster editor, 2K14=2K13, only a few animations added for a year of work, 2K doesn't work hard, 2K is lazy and going after Leftos, 2K downgrades on PC, 2K is lazy again, do not try to convince me 2K14 is improved, community mods are better than 2k official work, community fixes the games each year for 2K, overly defensive reply to me without actually answering any of the questions I asked you or you back down from the claims you make, more defensiveness and claiming you have a right to preach to us like you do, defending against shadow, saying the trailer was great, complain about no pc demo, 2K's AI sucks and doesn't change no matter what, in 2 years PC will get equal versions, complaining about another user's predictions on overall ratings, post about the live stream, post about missing the live stream, complaint about crew, signature skills kill gameplay, more complaints about AI, liked Kobe's shot, defensive against community, then this post.

You had 2 positive posts out of 32 in this subforum. Another 3 or 4 at most were neutral. Don't try to backpedal on this, we all know how you are behaving because we read it, and the complaints from other members is just emphasizing it. Make your point, move on, and it wouldn't kill you do try and be constructive with your criticisms instead of saying sig skills kill gameplay, default scoreboard is terrible and no one ever likes it, developers are lazy, only a few animations get added and nothing else, online doesn't work right, etc, etc, etc. (BTW, why do you keep complaining about online graphics? it was fixed in 2K13, online runs at high graphics.)


Complain about online- i still cant play online or if i already get connected i cant play with good fps-its unplayabe- fact- how can i prove it?. Internet speed 8Mbit,
Complain about graphic in online mode- never played at high lvl graphics in online, never- complain? no its a fact- for me. Maybe i shud write to tech 2k? hahaha...is it complain to? lol i did this many time. Is it complain to? This is how u react on my posts. skoadam=complain. Why? Dont know but its goood to post complain.
Complain about euroleague teams- im not complain, just point that i dont like adding euroleague to game named NBA-make no sense for me. Complain? maybe, but i got argument
2k11 was best- is it complain?
2k should give us roster editor- wouldnt be nice, isnt?
2k14=2k13- i never post like this, im using arguments
Few animations added?- did i lie?
attack Leftos- in my opinion i just discuss- complain?
complain about pc demo- where i complain about no pc demo? i just said it will be hard for me to choose 2k14 without demo because i cant try to play- is complaining? u are not goin to far with your thoughts? If comment about no pc demo is complaining i have no more to say
2k AI sucks? Where i wrote this? I wrote that is hard to create good AI in whatever game lol, read.

For me its clear. The best way to post here is just (Y) 2k or (Y) EA. Any other is just complain, even without understanding my posts, negative opinion- complain. I never talk that 2k are lazy because they not release next gen but here some users posts that im complain about no next gen on pc.
Your last post Jao sounds like comunism propaganda. U quoted all post from last 3-4 days when i cant even talk about goods because all i do here is defending my opinion. Just how?
Thanks for let me post my opinion- i never thought i will thank for this in any forum, never say never lol
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby KingDarealHD on Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:00 am

Dude you make yourself look bad, just stop. You got called out on you bs. Just stick to making great rosters. if you wanna make a comment about your opinion think about it first before you go to typing.
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby JaoSming on Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:32 am

Online 2K for me is the same graphical quality as it is offline. If you, or your opponent, cannot play the game at 60fps, there will be that lag that occurs. And yes, using support.2k.com is the correct way to handle things because right now you are just complaining to fans of these games. If you want to make a difference you need to tell 2K officially, through that website. The only 2K dev that is a part of this forum is Leftos, and I severely doubt he has any ability to work on anything he wants, nevermind the PC version in general.

2k14=2k13- i never post like this, im using arguments

lol, do you really want me to start pulling quotes?
Ok, i can say right now, find 2 differences between 2k13 and 2k14? Answer: oops sry, only one, euro teams.

it doesn't matter if you backed away from this stance since you posted that 1 week ago, you said we are ignoring your non-negative posts, I'm saying at least 90% of your posts are negative.

skoadam wrote:Few animations added?- did i lie?

3,000 animations added according to 2K's press release. You have no ability to deny this just as I have no ability to prove this. We can only take them for their word and if you don't trust them then don't buy their game.

skoadam wrote:Your last post Jao sounds like comunism propaganda. U quoted all post from last 3-4 days when i cant even talk about goods because all i do here is defending my opinion. Just how?

You know how you make good posts? By typing good posts and hitting reply. Everything started with an unprovoked reply from you and escalated when you were called out on it. Remember, "good" posts do NOT need to be "just (Y) 2k or (Y) EA" but something constructive, otherwise you are just being a troll.
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Re: Signature Skills Dev Diary

Postby CharlesAdams3rd on Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:42 am

JMaster12 wrote:Dude you make yourself look bad, just stop. You got called out on you bs. Just stick to making great rosters. if you wanna make a comment about your opinion think about it first before you go to typing.


This. It's just getting ridiculous now. The guy who has been good for criticizing all this time apparently cannot take constructive criticism.

JaoSming wrote:Online 2K for me is the same graphical quality as it is offline. If you, or your opponent, cannot play the game at 60fps, there will be that lag that occurs. And yes, using support.2k.com is the correct way to handle things because right now you are just complaining to fans of these games. If you want to make a difference you need to tell 2K officially, through that website. The only 2K dev that is a part of this forum is Leftos, and I severely doubt he has any ability to work on anything he wants, nevermind the PC version in general.


In all honesty, Jao, I don't think he wants to help make the game better. I mean, why complain to people who can do nothing for the official release, when you could easily tweet some devs or hit up the 2K support? It makes no sense. This forum shouldn't be a springboard for people's frustrations, but about healthy discussion.
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