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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby bigh0rt on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:53 pm

Along with yesterday's roster update came some shoe releases from 2K, 'BHM' versions for Kobe, Lebron, and Durant. Is that the same as RGB? If not, what does BHM mean? Are you going to include these files in your next update, for the main 2K13 folder?? Can I just add the filesto the game and they'll show up as selectable in-game?
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby buzzy on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:59 pm

Black History Month. That's just the official name of the shoe, it has nothing to do with 2k.
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby skoadam on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:01 am

Hey Med one thing, how in the hell you change coach rating?
switch to another coach id and set accurate portrait and cfid?
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby bigh0rt on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:07 am

buzzy wrote:Black History Month. That's just the official name of the shoe, it has nothing to do with 2k.

Ahhh, alright. Thanks.
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby Medevenx on Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:30 am

xianpauL wrote:ayt! thanks! when will you release it bro? :D


FAQ wrote:8. When is your next release going to be?
-I don't plan my releases. But I DO release the newest version ASAP every time.


bigh0rt wrote:Along with yesterday's roster update came some shoe releases from 2K, 'BHM' versions for Kobe, Lebron, and Durant. Is that the same as RGB? If not, what does BHM mean? Are you going to include these files in your next update, for the main 2K13 folder?? Can I just add the filesto the game and they'll show up as selectable in-game?


Yeah you can just download the newest Online Data. It won't harm the roster patch.

skoadam wrote:Hey Med one thing, how in the hell you change coach rating?
switch to another coach id and set accurate portrait and cfid?


Coach Ratings can't be changed (I think)
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby skoadam on Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:32 am

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skoadam wrote:Hey Med one thing, how in the hell you change coach rating?
switch to another coach id and set accurate portrait and cfid?


Coach Ratings can't be changed (I think)

so how u get "C" on Dumbtoni?
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby Medevenx on Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:34 am

skoadam wrote:so how u get "C" on Dumbtoni?


That's the Mike Brown experiment (changing the name Brown to D'Antoni instead of him sharing the same sliders with the Team USA coach D'Antoni) but that was flawed because it had numerous errors in-game.
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby skoadam on Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:36 am

Medevenx wrote:
skoadam wrote:so how u get "C" on Dumbtoni?


That's the Mike Brown experiment (changing the name Brown to D'Antoni instead of him sharing the same sliders with the Team USA coach D'Antoni) but that was flawed because it had numerous errors in-game.

ahh now i understand (Y)
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby DW0911 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:52 am

Can't wait for the next version :D

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/n ... ories.html

Don't know if this is helpful...
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby Dudabskt on Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:13 am

hey med..i finally could make your roster work!!! :cheeky: don´t ask me how, but it´s working now hahahahaha i played a couple of games and i think that the cpu is making too much points in the paint...how is your games going??? i believe my defense is ok...the players use to much crossovers and isomotion to get inside the paint, and a very few plays for opens shots or step up jumps...any tips???
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby bigh0rt on Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:53 am

Hey Med, for some reason the legs of Copeland and Chandler are white boy white. Any idea what I might have done, or what file could have possible done it?? Dunno if it's a roster issue or what...
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby bigh0rt on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:20 pm

Also, Med, if you're looking for data on shot tendency and eFG%, check 82games.com. I've been using the site since 2006 and it's awesome. Helped me come up with formulas for different shooting ratings, and now tendencies. I'm thinking of coming up with some for 2K13. If you're interested in working together at all to do such a thing and really tweak player ratings, let me know. (Y)
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby brettccameron on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:48 pm

So hex editing coach names changes anyone with similar names. Wow. That's odd.
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby DW0911 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:13 pm

Med, try to adjust the tendencies of Dream Team and USA to make them shoot more 3pts, they don't always go into the paint area......

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I was USA, against DRM, with Super Star difficulty and Med's slider, and I think that DRM attack by Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan too much.

DRM got 0/8 on 3pts (Bird and Mullin), I did good on defense though, but there should be screens for them and I could not defend them successfully.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Unite ... tball_team

As you can see, almost all of them took 3pt attempts due to shorter length of 3pt line. 135 attempts by 9 players in total.
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby Medevenx on Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:59 pm

DW0911 wrote:Can't wait for the next version :D

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/n ... ories.html

Don't know if this is helpful...


This is very helpful thank you!

Dudabskt wrote:hey med..i finally could make your roster work!!! :cheeky: don´t ask me how, but it´s working now hahahahaha i played a couple of games and i think that the cpu is making too much points in the paint...how is your games going??? i believe my defense is ok...the players use to much crossovers and isomotion to get inside the paint, and a very few plays for opens shots or step up jumps...any tips???


How many turnovers did you have? The plays have many options in them. You don't have to necessarily follow them. For example, a play is telling you to dribble towards a spot. If you neglect it, a different option will come up.

bigh0rt wrote:Hey Med, for some reason the legs of Copeland and Chandler are white boy white. Any idea what I might have done, or what file could have possible done it?? Dunno if it's a roster issue or what...


Copeland? I didn't make Chandler's body darker than it already is because the CFs aren't really compatible with that skin tone.

bigh0rt wrote:Also, Med, if you're looking for data on shot tendency and eFG%, check 82games.com. I've been using the site since 2006 and it's awesome. Helped me come up with formulas for different shooting ratings, and now tendencies. I'm thinking of coming up with some for 2K13. If you're interested in working together at all to do such a thing and really tweak player ratings, let me know. (Y)


I'd might as well just copy and paste Slimm's tendencies since he told me I have permission. But I tried it and it didn't really play well with my sliders.

brettccameron wrote:So hex editing coach names changes anyone with similar names. Wow. That's odd.


It's stupid if you ask me. Must've saved them some memory space or something.

DW0911 wrote:Med, try to adjust the tendencies of Dream Team and USA to make them shoot more 3pts, they don't always go into the paint area......

I was USA, against DRM, with Super Star difficulty and Med's slider, and I think that DRM attack by Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan too much.

DRM got 0/8 on 3pts (Bird and Mullin), I did good on defense though, but there should be screens for them and I could not defend them successfully.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Unite ... tball_team

As you can see, almost all of them took 3pt attempts due to shorter length of 3pt line. 135 attempts by 9 players in total.


Team USA and Dream Team play informally because they are kind of like, all-stars. I'll try to adjust that in the Coaching Profiles I guess. Also, DON'T play on a difficulty lower than Hall of Fame. The sliders are only designed for Hall of Fame. Going lower than that makes an increase in your favor drastically. Try it again on HoF.
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby Larvae on Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:04 pm

http://www.nba.com/2013/news/01/22/griz ... index.html

Cavs Get: Speights, Ellington and Selby
Grizz Get: Leuer and a Future First Round Pick.

Already made portraits for them with their new teams. (Y)
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby Medevenx on Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:06 pm

Larvae wrote:http://www.nba.com/2013/news/01/22/grizzlies-cavs-trade.ap/index.html

Cavs Get: Speights, Ellington and Selby
Grizz Get: Leuer and a Future First Round Pick.

Already made portraits for them with their new teams. (Y)


This is why I love your portraits! You're gonna do a LOT of changes when the trade deadlines come about lol.
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby bigh0rt on Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:07 pm

Medevenx wrote:I'd might as well just copy and paste Slimm's tendencies since he told me I have permission. But I tried it and it didn't really play well with my sliders.

What are Slimm's tendencies based on? I'm using 'per 36 minute' breakdowns for FG Att and 3PT Att for those, and distance % breakdowns at 82Games for the Inside/Close/Midrange ones. I fixed the Knicks, Nets, and Celtics, and am testing them all playing against one another. There's a really noticeable difference. Guys like Williams on Brooklyn had their shot tendency at 99 which caused them to shoot non-stop in-game, when that isn't their game. I'm using 'per 36 min' as the basis for my edits, with minor tweaks for players who have changed roles drastically, and rookies. If you're not interested, that's cool, and I guess I should ask, if I'm editing your 0.8 release, would it be possible for me to copy and paste them into your next release so that I don't lose my custom tendencies? Is it difficult? Would it present a problem?

Thanks. (Y)

Also, I found a pretty radical set of sliders at Operation Sports that play perfect with your roster. I wasn't a fan of the one you bundled with it, and tested a bunch of different settings before settling on this one. If you're interested I'd be happy to e-mail it to you to check out. It plays very different, but realistic, with very real stats.
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby Larvae on Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:07 pm

Medevenx, Thanks bro. I also updated Chris Andersen's portrait since i heard he signed with the Heat and gave him a guaranteed contract?
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby Medevenx on Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:39 pm

Larvae wrote:Medevenx, Thanks bro. I also updated Chris Andersen's portrait since i heard he signed with the Heat and gave him a guaranteed contract?


10-Day Contract at least.
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby Larvae on Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:52 pm

Medevenx, Jannero Pargo signed a 10 Day Contract with the Hawks today.
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby Medevenx on Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:33 pm

bigh0rt wrote:What are Slimm's tendencies based on? I'm using 'per 36 minute' breakdowns for FG Att and 3PT Att for those, and distance % breakdowns at 82Games for the Inside/Close/Midrange ones. I fixed the Knicks, Nets, and Celtics, and am testing them all playing against one another. There's a really noticeable difference. Guys like Williams on Brooklyn had their shot tendency at 99 which caused them to shoot non-stop in-game, when that isn't their game. I'm using 'per 36 min' as the basis for my edits, with minor tweaks for players who have changed roles drastically, and rookies. If you're not interested, that's cool, and I guess I should ask, if I'm editing your 0.8 release, would it be possible for me to copy and paste them into your next release so that I don't lose my custom tendencies? Is it difficult? Would it present a problem?

Thanks. (Y)

Also, I found a pretty radical set of sliders at Operation Sports that play perfect with your roster. I wasn't a fan of the one you bundled with it, and tested a bunch of different settings before settling on this one. If you're interested I'd be happy to e-mail it to you to check out. It plays very different, but realistic, with very real stats.


Don't really know what he based it on but he's got some formulas and stuff for that. Might sending me a copy of your roster so I can playtest those 3 teams? Yeah pasting the tendencies will probably be easy for v0.8 to v0.9

Are you talking about MKHARSH's sliders? Yes they play well with my roster. Never tried it though. I think it has a different Game Speed or something which I object. Game Speed should always be set to 50 in my book.

Larvae wrote:Medevenx, Jannero Pargo signed a 10 Day Contract with the Hawks today.


I think that was yesterday. Yeah I check the transactions sites such as Yahoo Sports, ESPN, and NBA.com
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby SunnyDove on Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:04 pm

I can't use any sliders other than MKHarsh. It's the only set that feels like a true basketball sim. I believe his sliders were designed to give realistic stats and cut down on the "2K cheese." I do have to adjust shooting tendencies and stuff often though. I just adjust players as I play against them with my Knicks. There's no way in hell Deron Williams should have 99 shot tendency. He's has big scoring nights but he's very balanced point guard in terms of distributing and shooting.

EDIT: Quick question for you. Have you ever used Post Proficiency on Carmelo? I'm not entirely clear on how it pertains to faceup moves but if it gives greater chance to fall for the pump fake and higher success rate on moves coming out of a faceup, that would be perfect for Melo. I would be a bit worried about it making his post fadeaway too potent though.

This is a bit unrelated but does anyone else find most of the escape dribble moves are just not quick enough to be effective? Some players like Carmelo should have their own one dribble pull-up packages. Carmelo is the master of the one dribble pull-up and you just can't emulate what he does in a real game.
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby DW0911 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:19 pm

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Jordan's knee pads and shoes in 02-03 season.

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Please fix the font of number as long as you can. :D (02-03 ORL)

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T-Mac's accesories in 2003.
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Re: Med's Ultimate Roster v0.8 RELEASED

Postby anastasis16 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:23 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong but I just found out that you assigned Dave Cowens as head coach of Brooklyn Nets, isn't it supposed to be PJ Carlesimo? Thx for the great roster patch!!! :D
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