NIB wrote:And 2K12 gotta the speed motion on players,
NIB wrote:We have the UBR Project, Fiba and Euroleague, we have almost every single piece of history and tradition pilled in one single game. Some can say that 2K13, 14, 15 are gonna have better playability, that's for me the greatest thing on a basketball game,
NIB wrote:but graphically 2K12 do not lose to any of those new games.
JaoSming wrote:NIB wrote:And 2K12 gotta the speed motion on players,
...all players run at the same speed though....NIB wrote:We have the UBR Project, Fiba and Euroleague, we have almost every single piece of history and tradition pilled in one single game. Some can say that 2K13, 14, 15 are gonna have better playability, that's for me the greatest thing on a basketball game,
Once RED MC is updated in a couple weeks the same thing will be possible in 2K13, with that better "playability"NIB wrote:but graphically 2K12 do not lose to any of those new games.
IMO 2K11 modded looked better than 2K12 modded. 2K13 vanilla looks better than 2K12 vanilla.
Mods add to the value yes, but I'm not sure you can gage a game based on mods, cause in that case NBA Live 07 was the best thing evar!
NIB wrote:2K12 is more complete then any other game, starts on graphics ends on gameplay.
NIB wrote:In 2K11 we have a explosion in running, we're at a marathon...
In 2K13 guys come walking to the middle of the court.
In 2K12 guys run to surpasses the middle of the floor, what is usually done by a point guard.
NIB wrote:When i say playability, understand gameplay. Compare the two best yourself...
NBA 2K13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB1RPDrO6HE
NBA 2K12: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB1RPDrO6HE
NIB wrote:Better basket net in 2K13? Better glass?
NIB wrote:But look at the shot motion, the pace of the game, i mean basketball is not like soccer, for example, when a guy stop in the middle at the field and looks the game, basketball is a dynamic type of sport, everybody running, point guards paces the game, but we usually run from defensive court to offensive court.
NIB wrote:New versions always got better graphics, (we call game evolution) as a nromal rule for this, so IMO 2K11<2K12<2K13
NIB wrote:NBA Lives 2007 and 2008 are like Bill Russell.
NBA 2K12 is Michael Jeffrey Jordan, gotta???
JaoSming wrote:NIB, I know you are very proud of the work you put into the game, and you should be, URB is unprecedented....it does not fix the core issues with the game though.
NIB wrote:2K12 is more complete then any other game, starts on graphics ends on gameplay.
JaoSming wrote:again, shaq can run as fast as rose, that is not good gameplay. MJALLDAY mentioned the double teams and there are other AI issues. Tell me how many times you've gotten a non-tip block in 2K12 even when the player winds all the way up and it should go into the crowd. There are issues that retexturing and changing player likenesses cannot fix. That has to be factored in when comparing games, especially when these have been fixed in 2K13.
NIB wrote:In 2K11 we have a explosion in running, we're at a marathon...
In 2K13 guys come walking to the middle of the court.
In 2K12 guys run to surpasses the middle of the floor, what is usually done by a point guard.
JaoSming wrote:I have no clue what you are talking about..
NIB wrote:When i say playability, understand gameplay. Compare the two best yourself...
NBA 2K13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxWd8dC2gnw
NBA 2K12: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_30-uh3 ... e=youtu.be
JaoSming wrote:you linked to the same video.
NIB wrote:Better basket net in 2K13? Better glass?
JaoSming wrote:They are the same man...and you linked to a 360 video, which has more graphic stuff than PC like the bending glass on dunks and arena coloring/shading.
NIB wrote:But look at the shot motion, the pace of the game, i mean basketball is not like soccer, for example, when a guy stop in the middle at the field and looks the game, basketball is a dynamic type of sport, everybody running, point guards paces the game, but we usually run from defensive court to offensive court.
JaoSming wrote:Again, I have no clue what you are talking about. You are saying there are major AI flaws in 2k13, where the general consensus is 2K13 fixed the noticeable issues in 2K12.
NIB wrote:New versions always got better graphics, (we call game evolution) as a nromal rule for this, so IMO 2K11<2K12<2K13
JaoSming wrote:I am pretty sure you just contradicted yourself....
NIB wrote:NBA Lives 2007 and 2008 are like Bill Russell.
NBA 2K12 is Michael Jeffrey Jordan, gotta???
JaoSming wrote:07 and 08 sucked. 07 had so many AI issues it wasn't even funny, and 08 has no transition defense, you can fast break on made baskets.
The point I was making was the games we mod do add to the personal worth and appreciation of the game, but it does not make it a better game objectively than others.
JaoSming wrote:I do feel the need to ask, have you even played 2K13?
STB. wrote:2K7, 2K11 and 2K13. the odd year games always come correct somehow.
NIB wrote:So if we just have one game at the table, and you gotta choose one... JUST ONE FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIVE! 2K12 is by far the choice, and i got admit you made difficult to prove my point of view, but you know i'm right! Hehehehe, you can say here for everybody see: "No, i'll peak 2K13, cause the great AI stuff" (L-I-A-R ), but everybody will at least have a great doubt in not having 2K12 Classics.
2K13 guys slow the pace too much...
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