Ult. ModPack UBRV54+(38+ Complete Seasons-1976-Pres)-6/9/13

[andrefaelnar]

Tried to start a game with the '97 76ers with the chicago bulls and the game crashed

same thing happened to me. I think there's a problem with the 6ers home court?

that happened to me as well. actually i was testing out all the retro teams of which one is crashing and which team is not crashing
here is the list below......

Note: If the Retro Teams Work in Practice Mode, then it works in running normal games.

List of Retro Teams That Didn't Crash Using UBR V5:
51-52 Lakers
57-58 Hawks
61-62 Royals
61-62 Warriors
64-65 Celtics
64-65 Lakers
70-71 Bucks
70-71 Lakers
70-71 Hawks
71-72 Lakers
71-72 Knicks
76-77 Sixers
84-85 Knicks
84-85 Sixers
84-85 Bucks
85-86 Bulls
85-86 Celtics
85-86 Hawks
85-86 Rockets
86-87 Lakers
88-89 Pistons
88-89 Bulls
89-90 Cavaliers
90-91 Bulls
90-91 Lakers
90-91 Blazers
90-91 Warriors
91-92 Bulls
92-93 Bulls
92-93 Suns
92-93 Hornets
93-94 Rockets
93-94 Nuggets
94-95 Knicks
94-95 Magic
94-95 Rockets
95-96 Bulls
95-96 Sonics
96-97 Heat
96-97 Hornets
96-97 Bulls
96-97 Pistons
97-98 Timberwolves
97-98 Bulls
97-98 Jazz
97-98 Lakers
97-98 Spurs
98-99 Knicks
99-00 Blazers
99-00 Raptors
99-00 Lakers
00-01 Sixers
01-02 Kings
01-02 Nets
02-03 Magic
02-03 Wizards
02-03 Spurs
03-04 Lakers
03-04 Pistons
03-04 Timberwolves
03-04 Mavericks
04-05 Sonics
05-06 Heat
05-06 Wizards
06-07 Nuggets
06-07 Jazz
06-07 Suns
07-08 Celtics
07-08 Sonics
08-09 Cavaliers
08-09 Rockets
08-09 Magic
08-09 Lakers
10-11 Mavericks
1992 Dream Team

List of Retro Teams That Crash Using UBR V5:
71-72 Bulls
*77-78 Bullets
*92-93 Nets
*96-97 Rockets
*96-97 Bullets
96-97 Sixers
*97-98 Pacers
*00-01 Bucks
*99-00 Pacers
*03-04 Pacers

Legend:
* - It was working in the previous version which is in V4.1

[andrefaelnar]

if ever they need an image or a source pic to make a cyberface of mario bennett and sean rooks
this is what they look like.......
Mario Bennett


Sean Rooks

[andrefaelnar]

if ever they need an image or a source pic to make a cyberface of negele knight, jerrod mustaf, and tim kempton for 93 suns
this is what they look like.......
Tim Kempton


Jerrod Mustaf

Negele Knight

[Yo1]

it's lame because 2k changed way we can edit players body... i remember 2k10 when i was change players bodytypes so they look really good... almost like in real life... check this photo of my editing
I also remember that Ray Allen have HIS REAL MUSCLE calves (he was only guy with that kind if calves) in 2k9 and they change it to generic, damn... those LITTLE things mean a lot to me...

[chaodck]

What about hotzones/hotspots??

[ryence]

great job hawk!! some suggestion with regards to 2002 New Jersey Nets home jersey just grab the default file and rename it to UAR018 then replace the wrong one in order to get the white jersey. In addition hawk, pls consider the away jersey of 2004 dallas to this one



if you can possibly ask the permission of king so you can replace every team files to better one, after all your planning to use alby roster on your next update
try using alby king roster.

This post was deleted by tarantado08 on Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:46 pm.
Reason: sorry wrong entry

[jayatsena]

I have find some players head (eg: 95-96 Sixers' Rex Walter) are like flowerhorn fish, is it a bug?

[andrefaelnar]

I have find some players head (eg: 95-96 Sixers' Rex Walter) are like flowerhorn fish, is it a bug?

i think its more of a generic cyberface though

[Tommyhtc]

hey hawk23,
just a small thing,
but 03 T-mac is still a role player, and his shooting abilities, like his fadeaway are underrated..... I think his fadeaway and all his other shooting abilities can be considered great at that time, do change them if you have time...

[rotchild]

List of Retro Teams That Crash Using UBR V5:
71-72 Bulls
*77-78 Bullets
*92-93 Nets
*96-97 Rockets
*96-97 Bullets
96-97 Sixers
*97-98 Pacers
*00-01 Bucks
*99-00 Pacers
*03-04 Pacers

Yes, this list is pretty much accurate, thanks

[aaron91]

No offense Hawk I love what you do, but a bunch of the player ratings seem to be off, in terms of the abilities and skills. Would you want me to make a running list of things that need to / could be changed?

[Gozda]

I think I found a bug: Players which are included in this roster and the original players by 2k have wrong colleges. For Example Hakeem Olajuwon is from Hong Kong and MJ isn't from N.Carolina. I know it isn't very irritating, I'm just saying. People, do you have the same situation, or I did something wrong while installing a patch?

[Brent72]

I was playing '09 Lakers vs. '08 Celtics on Boston's home court and it crashed a couple minutes into the game.

[MJALLDAY]

Hawk please add the 94-95 Bulls, they'd be an easy make, you have all the jerseys and cyberfaces except Pete Myers already in the game and you can use the ratings from 2k11.

[FishBowlMan]

First off, let me thank Hawk and anyone else involved in this project for bringing us these quality add-ons. I love the late 90's era so its great to play with and against these classic teams.

I think I found a bug: Players which are included in this roster and the original players by 2k have wrong colleges. For Example Hakeem Olajuwon is from Hong Kong and MJ isn't from N.Carolina. I know it isn't very irritating, I'm just saying. People, do you have the same situation, or I did something wrong while installing a patch?

I have the same issue. it seems like the ID used for the college is one lower than it should be. e.g. Greg Ostertag is listed as being from Japan. Add 1 to the number and you get to Kansas. Sam Cassell listed as Florida International. Add 1 and we get the correct Florida State. etc.

Also, I have a chap called Bobby Mason coaching the '97/'98 & '06/'07 Jazz instead of Jerry Sloan. This is on version 5 of the roster.

Question: am I supposed to install each of the versions of your roster, or does the latest version download include all previous updates?

Cheers,

John.

[Yungboy21Ent]

Loving this update Hawk! Can't wait till you add Albys new 2.0 roster to this
For now I'll keep using this one..

[nuhmete]

Question: am I supposed to install each of the versions of your roster, or does the latest version download include all previous updates?

Nah, you just need to install the latest and that's it.

The college issue is most probably caused by a scramble. Can anyone confirm if every single player's college is wrong or just some are affected? Does raising the value +1 work with every player?

[jsader]

I was playing '09 Lakers vs. '08 Celtics on Boston's home court and it crashed a couple minutes into the game.

I used the 07-08 Celtics at home and it crashed, as well as on the road at the 08-09 Cavs.

[Brent72]

I used the 07-08 Celtics at home and it crashed, as well as on the road at the 08-09 Cavs.

Yeah, I tried games on both Lakers and Celtics courts and it crashed both times. Wasn't sure which team was causing the problem, but apparently it's the Celtics.

[jsader]

I used the 07-08 Celtics at home and it crashed, as well as on the road at the 08-09 Cavs.

Yeah, I tried games on both Lakers and Celtics courts and it crashed both times. Wasn't sure which team was causing the problem, but apparently it's the Celtics.

I also got a crash on the 92 Dream Team, and the 97-98 Pacers.

[FishBowlMan]

Question: am I supposed to install each of the versions of your roster, or does the latest version download include all previous updates?

Nah, you just need to install the latest and that's it.

Thanks. I assumed so, but just thought I'd check There must be another explanation for the lack of Jerry Sloan.

The college issue is most probably caused by a scramble. Can anyone confirm if every single player's college is wrong or just some are affected? Does raising the value +1 work with every player?

A random sample of 30 players from the retro rosters seems to indicate all the colleges / associations are wrong. I'm assuming they are 1 out by looking at the college list in the "create a player" menu in-game. I don't have any editors so I don't know whether they follow that format in the underlying database.

This only seems to apply to the created / added teams. The default (2011 / 2012) team's players have the correct colleges as far as I can tell.

[FishBowlMan]

There seems to be 2 separate issues relating to game crashing.

#1 seems to be to do with the courts and will cause a crash as soon as the game mode is entered. I have experienced this crash but have no idea what causes it. A post by andrefaelner a few posts back detailed the retro courts that cause the crash.I don't know how to add a link to a previous post so I'll quote the relevant courts that he's discovered:

Tried to start a game with the '97 76ers with the chicago bulls and the game crashed

same thing happened to me. I think there's a problem with the 6ers home court?

that happened to me as well. actually i was testing out all the retro teams of which one is crashing and which team is not crashing

List of Retro Teams That Crash Using UBR V5:
71-72 Bulls
*77-78 Bullets
*92-93 Nets
*96-97 Rockets
*96-97 Bullets
96-97 Sixers
*97-98 Pacers
*00-01 Bucks
*99-00 Pacers
*03-04 Pacers

Legend:
* - It was working in the previous version which is in V4.1

The second crash / freeze happens in-game at what "appears" to be random times. I've narrowed it down and can suggest a quick-fix but am not entirely sure of the reasons for this.

It is either to do with playbooks, or player's "play types".

During a game, if the user or the computer tries to assign a play to a player who has this issue, the game will freeze. For the computer, immediately after a basket (and I assume a rebound) the computer will allocate the next play. If it is for a player not affected, the game procedes as normal. If the player is affected, the game will crash.

Also, if the user manually tries to assign a play to the affected player, the game will similarly crash.

This also applies to the "scrimmage" and "practice - plays" mode, which is how I worked out how to solve the issue.

To test a team, the easiest way to check is to run a scrimmage with a created team. With the ball, try and call a play for the pg, sg, sf, pf & c in turn. If you hit an affected player, the game will freeze. If all 5 players are ok, substitute the next 5 players in the roster and try again. Similarly with the final 2. If there are no crashes, that team is fine and will not crash during the game.


The quick fix for the problem once you've identified the player is to find him in the "Rosters - Edit Player" and scroll down to the "Play Types". If the player has "Pick & Roll" selected, change this to either "P & R Ball Handler" or "P & R Roll Man". For any other plays, I've found that if you scroll round until the same play is selected, this seems to cure the issue.

Make sure you click the "next" button to save the changes you've made.

I've currently found the following players to be an issue, and this method has so far cured the problem.

'97 / '98 Utah Jazz - Brian Russell
'07 / '08 Boston Celtics - Paul Pierce
'92 Dream Team - David Robinson

These teams I've looked at and have not experienced a problem:

'08 / '09 Orlando Magic
'99 / '00 Portland Trailblazers
'08 / '09 Houston Rockets
'97 / '98 San Antonio Spurs
'97 / '98 Minnesota Timberwolves


Perhaps someone who's got the same issue can give this a try and see whether I'm barking up the right tree.

John.

[jerkyjeck]

Thanks for the update HAWK. Just a suggestion: it would be nice if you will have a separate download link for the updates only so that we don't have to download the old files that are included in the newest version. Keep up the good work!

[jsader]

There seems to be 2 separate issues relating to game crashing.

#1 seems to be to do with the courts and will cause a crash as soon as the game mode is entered. I have experienced this crash but have no idea what causes it. A post by andrefaelner a few posts back detailed the retro courts that cause the crash.I don't know how to add a link to a previous post so I'll quote the relevant courts that he's discovered:

Tried to start a game with the '97 76ers with the chicago bulls and the game crashed

same thing happened to me. I think there's a problem with the 6ers home court?

that happened to me as well. actually i was testing out all the retro teams of which one is crashing and which team is not crashing

List of Retro Teams That Crash Using UBR V5:
71-72 Bulls
*77-78 Bullets
*92-93 Nets
*96-97 Rockets
*96-97 Bullets
96-97 Sixers
*97-98 Pacers
*00-01 Bucks
*99-00 Pacers
*03-04 Pacers

Legend:
* - It was working in the previous version which is in V4.1

The second crash / freeze happens in-game at what "appears" to be random times. I've narrowed it down and can suggest a quick-fix but am not entirely sure of the reasons for this.

It is either to do with playbooks, or player's "play types".

During a game, if the user or the computer tries to assign a play to a player who has this issue, the game will freeze. For the computer, immediately after a basket (and I assume a rebound) the computer will allocate the next play. If it is for a player not affected, the game procedes as normal. If the player is affected, the game will crash.

Also, if the user manually tries to assign a play to the affected player, the game will similarly crash.

This also applies to the "scrimmage" and "practice - plays" mode, which is how I worked out how to solve the issue.

To test a team, the easiest way to check is to run a scrimmage with a created team. With the ball, try and call a play for the pg, sg, sf, pf & c in turn. If you hit an affected player, the game will freeze. If all 5 players are ok, substitute the next 5 players in the roster and try again. Similarly with the final 2. If there are no crashes, that team is fine and will not crash during the game.


The quick fix for the problem once you've identified the player is to find him in the "Rosters - Edit Player" and scroll down to the "Play Types". If the player has "Pick & Roll" selected, change this to either "P & R Ball Handler" or "P & R Roll Man". For any other plays, I've found that if you scroll round until the same play is selected, this seems to cure the issue.

Make sure you click the "next" button to save the changes you've made.

I've currently found the following players to be an issue, and this method has so far cured the problem.

'97 / '98 Utah Jazz - Brian Russell
'07 / '08 Boston Celtics - Paul Pierce
'92 Dream Team - David Robinson

These teams I've looked at and have not experienced a problem:

'08 / '09 Orlando Magic
'99 / '00 Portland Trailblazers
'08 / '09 Houston Rockets
'97 / '98 San Antonio Spurs
'97 / '98 Minnesota Timberwolves


Perhaps someone who's got the same issue can give this a try and see whether I'm barking up the right tree.

John.

Good stuff man. Thanks a lot.

[HAWK23]

I have a few different ideas for some of the crashing issues... like someone stated before the teams that crash before entering game mode is probably due to typos or something in the courts or coaches tab... this was probably done during the transfer to the updated roster file...

the teams crashing in game is probably due to running a play with the player... I know how to fix these too... I'm just going to need to review the .ROS file in reditor and edit any typos that may have been caused my copying too much information at once... I'll try to take a look at it tonight... I've just been swamped with work...

P.S. If you guys know which specific players are causing crashes when you try to assign a play with them let me know... the easy fix for this is going to EDIT them and just make sure the first PLAY type doesn't say "none". My guess is players who crash when you try to pick a play for them say the following:

Type 1: None
Type 2: Mid-Range
Type 3: P&R Man


as for the colleges... if everything is one number off it's due to the fact that the newest official2K update must have added a new college or something... if someone can figure out which college was added let me know... because that's probably the reason everyone is one off... they were fine in V4

[carmelo]

I installed the new version roster but something happens to current jersey of the sixers (away). Maybe your rookie iverson sixers team jersey overwrite the current jersey of the team. Could you repair this and where can I find now the current sixers jersey away?

[ballsandword]

how come some players have no shoes..like lebron and kobe

[MJALLDAY]

how come some players have no shoes..like lebron and kobe

You're sig's a lie, not even close.

[rotchild]

...crash before entering game mode is probably due to typos or something in the courts or coaches tab...

As you mentioned coaches, I also noticed that some of the teams have no coaches and also no assistant coaches (both "invisible" during the game. Just the backup players sitting on the benches). I noticed that with The '88-'89 Pistons (Chuck Daly) and the 88'-89' Bulls (?) (Doug Collins) (?)

[FishBowlMan]

... the easy fix for this is going to EDIT them and just make sure the first PLAY type doesn't say "none". My guess is players who crash when you try to pick a play for them say the following:

Type 1: None
Type 2: Mid-Range
Type 3: P&R Man

I don't think that's the cause of this. e.g. Dan Majerle in the '92 / '93 Phoenix Suns has:

Type 1: None
Type 2: Mid Range
Type 3: Cutter
Type 4: None

I've just tried this team and it works fine. It would be interesting to know how the computer deals with this in the game. Does it automatically skip to the type 2 play, or will it effectively run "no play" for that set if it wants a Type 1 play.

I'll let you know of any other players that have this problem if I find any.

as for the colleges... if everything is one number off it's due to the fact that the newest official2K update must have added a new college or something... if someone can figure out which college was added let me know... because that's probably the reason everyone is one off... they were fine in V4

Can't help with this I'm afraid as I don't seem to have a roster update that isn't affected by the official update. I can confirm that the default NBA team's players are correct. The new created players are out by 1, as are the players from the unlocked retro teams e.g. John Stockton (unlocked through legends) is listed as "Golden Bear" instead of "Gonzaga".

[ballsandword]

how come some players have no shoes..like lebron and kobe

You're sig's a lie, not even close.

[Tommyhtc]

how come some players have no shoes..like lebron and kobe

You're sig's a lie, not even close.

oh god...

[nuhmete]

how come some players have no shoes..like lebron and kobe

You have to have Official NBA 2K12 Roster Update & Online Data

[MJALLDAY]

how come some players have no shoes..like lebron and kobe

You're sig's a lie, not even close.

SIDEKICK 4 LIFE

[blkmagnum22]

without scottie Jordan was 1-9 in the playoffs


who is talkin bout sidekicks?

kobe is the goat

[ballsandword]

how come some players have no shoes..like lebron and kobe

You're sig's a lie, not even close.

SIDEKICK 4 LIFE

keep talkin...

[ballsandword]

how come some players have no shoes..like lebron and kobe

You have to have Official NBA 2K12 Roster Update & Online Data

thanks sir!

[Tommyhtc]

without scottie Jordan was 1-9 in the playoffs


who is talkin bout sidekicks?

kobe is the goat

can we not talk about this in this thread?
"all we are saying is give peace a chance"

[ballsandword]

without scottie Jordan was 1-9 in the playoffs


who is talkin bout sidekicks?

kobe is the goat

can we not talk about this in this thread?
"all we are saying is give peace a chance"

oh man not metta! lol!

[MJALLDAY]

without scottie Jordan was 1-9 in the playoffs


who is talkin bout sidekicks?

kobe is the goat

I'm talking about sidekicks, I don't know what you're talking about. Even a blind crack head knows that Scottie Pippen was never even close to being better than Jordan and that Shaquille O'neal was clearly the best player on the Lakers every year he played with Kobe, Kobe's a great player but get real, he couldn't even get into the playoffs the year after he ran Phil Jackson and Shaq out of town. If it wasn't for the insider trade for Pau Gasol he'd still be ring-less on his
own.

[MJALLDAY]

without scottie Jordan was 1-9 in the playoffs


who is talkin bout sidekicks?

kobe is the goat

can we not talk about this in this thread?
"all we are saying is give peace a chance"

You're right, I'll stop, but dude's sig hit a nerve. Kobe Bryant.....please.

[carmelo]

I installed the new version roster but something happens to current jersey of the sixers (away). Maybe your rookie iverson sixers team jersey overwrite the current jersey of the team. Could you repair this and where can I find now the current sixers jersey away?

Has anyone had this problem?

[FishBowlMan]

Right. I've checked the first 18 teams in order. I've stopped for now as I'm going cross eyed

These teams are fine on my system:

'51 / '52 Lakers
'57 / '58 Hawks
'61 / '62 Warriors
'64 / '65 Celtics
'64 / '65 Lakers
'70 / '71 Bucks
'70 / '71 Lakers
'70 / '71 Hawks
'71 / '72 Bulls
'71 / '72 Lakers
'71 / '72 Knicks
'76 / '77 76ers - although only F. Carter has any plays to use. Everyone else is blank in-game.
'77 / '78 Bullets
'84 / '85 Knicks
'84 / '85 76ers
'85 / '86 Bulls

Two teams have issues:

'61 / '62 Royals - Dave Zeller has an issue with his 1st play type.
'84 / '85 Bucks - Paul Thompson has an issue with his 1st play type.

What I've noticed for these 2 players, is that the in-game play type and the values in REDitor are different for the invalid play selection.

For example with Dave Zegler, in-game he's listed as Isolation, Isolation, Mid-range, None, whereas the numbers in the editor were 4, 1, 7, 0. It seems the game is getting confused if the in-game play type does not match the editor values. I scrolled through in-game and set the play types back to Isolation, Isolation, Mid-range, None and saved the player. Now the editor shows, correctly, 1, 1, 0, 0. I then went back in-game and changed the play type to (I think) P & R Ball handler, saved the player and this time the editor displays 4, 1, 7, 0

If the in-game selection matches the REDitor roster, the game will run fine. If they don't, the game will crash during play when either the user or the computer tries to set a play for the affected player.

I don't know whether the problem is with the roster itself, if there is a problem with the editor loading / saving the roster file, or with the game loading / saving the roster file, but I hope this info can help somebody diagnose the error.

Just to re-confirm, it does not matter if play type 1 is set to "none" and there are plays in 2, 3 or 4

If I find any more teams / players with issues I'll let you know.


Hawk, I understand you've got a lot on your plate at the moment, but is it possible to remove the duplicated plays in some team's playbooks? e.g. in the Jazz '98 playbook, the play# 8F008BA6 (97 Jazz 15 Dribble Punch) is repeated 4 times. Its hard enough trying to find a suitable play for Greg Ostertag without having all these duplicates

John.

[blkmagnum22]

game crashes when i try to start association with 07-08 sonics..
and their jersey numbers are blue.

[nuhmete]

I answered the jersey number issue a few pages ago:

There's no way to fix jersey numbers at all in 2K12 - And numbers cannot be converted during the 2K11 to 2K12 transfer - what I'm doing is pasting the textures on a 2K12 jersey and the converted jersey gets these numbers. So I had the option of using correct colors or correct position. I think position matters more. If a 2K12 jersey with both the correct position and color is found or a tool comes out that allows me to edit numbers, I can fix that.

The only jersey in the entire game that had the correct number position for Sonics was the away Thunder jersey (tried it on All-Star jerseys too but the name in the back went under the number then). It also has away lighting for all 3 jerseys (Tried the jersey lighting tool on it too, didn't even change).
If someone finds how to change the number colors or makes the correct jersey it'll be included. Otherwise, the current version is as close as it gets.

[blkmagnum22]

without scottie Jordan was 1-9 in the playoffs


who is talkin bout sidekicks?

kobe is the goat

I'm talking about sidekicks, I don't know what you're talking about. Even a blind crack head knows that Scottie Pippen was never even close to being better than Jordan and that Shaquille O'neal was clearly the best player on the Lakers every year he played with Kobe, Kobe's a great player but get real, he couldn't even get into the playoffs the year after he ran Phil Jackson and Shaq out of town. If it wasn't for the insider trade for Pau Gasol he'd still be ring-less on his
own.

even a blind crack head can see that kobe plays in a tougher era. phil has said the celtics/pistons were the toughest defensive teams hes ever coached against.

kobe >
and yeah he couldnt get to the playoffs maybe cuz he had chris mihm and smush parker, where are those bums now?

1-9 without scottie pippen

[blkmagnum22]

I answered the jersey number issue a few pages ago:

There's no way to fix jersey numbers at all in 2K12 - And numbers cannot be converted during the 2K11 to 2K12 transfer - what I'm doing is pasting the textures on a 2K12 jersey and the converted jersey gets these numbers. So I had the option of using correct colors or correct position. I think position matters more. If a 2K12 jersey with both the correct position and color is found or a tool comes out that allows me to edit numbers, I can fix that.

The only jersey in the entire game that had the correct number position for Sonics was the away Thunder jersey (tried it on All-Star jerseys too but the name in the back went under the number then). It also has away lighting for all 3 jerseys (Tried the jersey lighting tool on it too, didn't even change).
If someone finds how to change the number colors or makes the correct jersey it'll be included. Otherwise, the current version is as close as it gets.

thanks.. ill just use the fictional jerseys then. i can change the #s colors but then i try to change the name color and it comes out all messed up..

i started association with 04 sonics and it didnt crash
might be a problem with only the 08 sonics

but there is still a major problem when association is started, the names dont show up correctly in the stats sheet..it says i have jerry sloan, michael finley ect on my team lol

[nuhmete]

For the time being, if you still have your .ROS file from one of the older versions of UBR you can use the method mentioned in the FAQ - starting in the old roster file, exporting the team, loading it in the roster of your choice, starting the association from there and switching back to UBR5.

Your last edit is answered on the FAQ too - what you get is the engine failing to handle that big of a data file. I don't recommend starting association with UBR anyway, export your team and start it in the 2K Official roster. you can switch back to UBR after that, your association save will keep the vanilla roster.

[FishBowlMan]

game crashes when i try to start association with 07-08 sonics..
and their jersey numbers are blue.

I don't have a problem with the '07 / '08 sonics. Which team were you playing against?