by kibaxx7 on Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:33 pm


Clippers sign Jawad Williams
LOS ANGELES. -- The Los Angeles Clippers have signed forward Jawad Williams to a contract, Clippers general manager Mike Dunleavy, Sr. announced today. Per team and league policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed. Williams (6-9, 220 pounds) played in the preseason with the Cleveland Cavaliers. The Cleveland native and St. Edward H.S. graduate didn't make the Cavaliers’ 2008-09 opening day roster, as he was a training camp invite. He was waived by the Cavaliers this last days. Following his stint with the Cavaliers this season, Williams played in 19 games (18 starts) with the Rio Grande Valley Vipers of the NBA Development League. He averaged 25.7 points on .454 shooting, 4.2 rebounds and 2.3 assists in 36.5 minutes per game. The rookie forward is eligible to be on the Clippers’ postseason roster, if the qualify, and will wear No. 11. The Clippers roster now stands at 13 players.
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The value of Chauncey Billups
DENVER. -- In an era where there are statistics for virtually everything -- many of them meaningless -- Denver Nuggets point guard Chauncey Billups is a player whose value is very difficult to measure empirically. Yes, Denver's point guard has put up some good numbers this season, but so much of what Billups brings to the table will never be found in a boxscore. And it's those very qualities that have helped to transform the Denver Nuggets from a talented but dysfunctional bunch to one that now has a legitimate shot to win a NBA championship. One needs to look no further than Denver's recent opponents to find proof of just how much of an impact he's had. "He's the calm in the storm," Dallas Mavericks guard Jason Terry explained with a smile. "When you've got a volatile team of guys that have physical and aggressive personalities, he's the calming factor. He's the guy that if the storm brews he's going to come in and say, 'Hey, it's going to be alright.' He's going to make the play they need, the defensive play or big shot. He's done that all season long for them. He's the head of the snake." Mavericks forward Dirk Nowitzki added that "they play both ends of the floor with Chauncey really setting the tone. He's tough-minded. I think he brought some toughness to this team, mental and physical. They don't ever give up."
When Denver originally pulled the trigger on the trade last November, they had a sense that Billups might help change the culture so much so the front office had dialogue with the Detroit Pistons about him all summer. When the Pistons repeatedly asked for Carmelo Anthony in any deal for Billups, the Nuggets made it clear in no uncertain terms that they weren't moving Melo. Eventually, the Pistons came around and agreed to a swap for Allen Iverson. "We weren't trading Melo," asserted Nuggets vice president of basketball operations Mark Warkentien. "It took (Detroit) a few months to understand that. We were going to make this thing work and then we were able to get Chauncey." When he first arrived no one fully understood the enormous impact he would end up having, and it all started with Billups putting the pressure on himself to perform. "When I first arrived there were some expectations that we would be a better team, but you've still got to get on the court and do it," said Billups. "There were a lot of things that I was supposed to have brought to the table, but it wasn't just a given and I had to really bring it to the table. I had to try to lead and try to take charge."
Part of this process included forming a good relationship with his head coach. Over time the two have created almost a perfect synergy. However, that doesn't mean they don't challenge one another. In fact, they often overrule each another in film studies and between the lines. When asked why this works so well, Karl replied: "Because I trust him. I trust him and I think he trusts me. He knows who's anxious or angry about what's going on probably more than I do because they are verbalizing it to him and not to me. In my old age I don't want to be a dictator. I'd rather just be the heart of the party."
Simply put, there is no statistic you can find on NBA.com or anywhere else that can quantify leadership. And truthfully, there's no more important quality that Billups has brought to the table in Denver. "It's a gift to have one of your best players be a great leader and a great daily guy," said Karl. "He's a positive energy guy, a guy who gets through the muck of NBA losing and egos. When he walks into the locker room on a daily basis he just makes it work. As much of a leader as he was in Detroit, I think he has more of a leadership role with this team. It's a younger team, a team that hasn't been to the mountain top like they had been in Detroit. It makes the team run a lot smoother."
"As you know, man, I come to win," Billups asserted. "I try to do the best I can every night for one reason and that's to win. Not for anything else." When he first arrived winning was defined a little bit differently in Denver than what Billups had been accustomed to. That's what seven straight Conference Finals will do to a player. "Being around here all year everybody was putting all the emphasis on the first round, and I shoot higher than that," said Billups. "That's just the first step. When I first got here we were really just trying to make the playoffs. Our whole thing was to try and make the playoffs and make a run. Three weeks after that when we got off to a great start, we reevaluated our goals and said, 'Alright, we want to win the division and get homecourt advantage.' We've constantly revaluated our goals and made them bigger and better all season."
But some sources indicate that Billups could be on his way out of Colorado after the Nuggets apparently placed him in the trading block, with Cleveland offering center Zydrunas Ilgauskas and Atlanta willing to go separate ways with Josh Smith. Billups said that if he leaves Denver, it would only be to return to the East. So just how valuable is Chauncey Billups to the Denver Nuggets? Maybe Miami, leader of the Eastern Conference, and looking for a mentor for Mario Chalmers, is in the horizon for Mr. Big Shot?
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After winning gold, Wade still has Something 2 Prove
MIAMI. -- Winning an Olympic gold medal hasn't erased Dwyane Wade's painful memories of a dismal last season with the Miami Heat. Wade may have been one of the United States' best players in Beijing, but he knows it will take more than that to silence the critics back home in Miami after the Heat posted the NBA's worst record last year. "The Olympics just hushed people," Wade said ahead of Saturday's game against Indiana in American Airlines Arena. "It just quieted them down for a little while. It didn't shut anyone up." So, going into this season, 12 games played, 8 games won in a row, and best record in the East, Wade has taken the gold medal off his neck and embraced a new mission.
The Olympics did have an effect on Wade, though, giving the 2006 NBA champion another taste of success after having two seasons ruined by injuries. "It was more important than anyone knows, just for your overall confidence," Wade said. "Once I got there (to Beijing) and started playing against, and with, the best players in the world and succeeding, it makes you understand and know that, OK, I'm back." The Heat's rookie coach, Erik Spoelstra, used the preseason trip to London -- part of the NBA's ongoing efforts to increase its fan base overseas -- as a team-building exercise, throwing in mandatory sightseeing trips in-between practices and games. The trip to Paris included a team photo in front of the Eiffel Tower, while the players were taken straight to the Houses of Parliament for another picture after arriving in England. For a young, inexperienced team that is still trying to find its identity under Spoelstra, Wade expects the trip to pay off. "It builds togetherness," he said. "That can help a lot on the court, where you care for each other more and you want to do more things for each other. We're a better team already than last season. We have a lot of young guys that have good potential. My thing is to help that process speed up faster."
And Miami fans have reason to be optimistic about the performance of Michael Beasley, the No. 2 pick in this year's draft, despite suffering a broken toe against Portland. "He's just one of those natural scorers, where it seems like it takes no effort to do," Wade said. "He's only 19 years old, so once he learns the game and gets a feel for it, he's going to be even better. I'm going to make him better, and he's going to make me better. And that's going to make our team better." Still, most of the weight still rests on Wade's shoulders to make sure the team doesn't spend another year in the basement. "Dwyane is the focal point of their team," said former NBA star Darryl Dawkins, who was helping the league run a clinic for local youth on a temporary court in South London. "By him playing, (it) makes everybody better. He can carry a team, and he will have to carry a team this year." Wade has done it before and knows he can do it again. He also knows how quickly a team can go from one of the worst to one of the best in the league, after watching the Boston Celtics make the transformation last year.
"Once you see that something is done, it makes it easier for you to have the vision that it can be done again. Of course, they did it unbelievably, not only did they have a quick turnaround, they won a championship. I think after the season we had last year, we won 15 games, it's not going to be difficult to have a quick turnaround," Wade said. "My team was 15-67 last year. Of course I'm going to always have fun and enjoy the game, but at the same time you have to play with a chip on your shoulder. And I feel everyone in the locker room should play with a chip on their shoulder, because we have something to prove."
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Pacers acquire Luol Deng
INDIANA. -- The Indiana Pacers announced today a player swap with the Chicago Bulls. The Pacers received from the Bulls, forward Luol Deng, in exchange for forward Mike Dunleavy, Jr.. “We feel we made a pretty significant trade for the franchise that will be good for both teams,” said coach Jim O'Brien. “Trades are always painful because you give up players you like, but in this case, we think it’s a good trade that works for both teams. We feel the players we got will make a significant difference in the franchise.”
The 6-9, 230-pound Dunleavy is starting his seventh season out of Duke. In 4 games with the Pacers this season, he averaged 11.0 points and 3.3 rebounds per game. Dunleavy was originally acquired in a trade from Golden State, in January 2007, along forwards Troy Murphy and Ike Diogu and guard Keith McLeod, with forwards Al Harrington and Josh Powell and guards Stephen Jackson and Sarunas Jasikevicius going opposite ways. Deng was in his fifth season with the Bulls and played 6 games this season, averaging 15.7 points, originally drafted by the Phoenix Suns in the first round (seventh overall) of NBA Draft 2004 and traded to Chicago for a future conditional first-round draft pick, the draft rights to Jackson Vroman (31st overall pick) and cash.
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Law battling depression, says he nearly quit Hawks
ATLANTA. -- Atlanta Hawks guard Acie Law contemplated quitting before leaving the team to seek help for depression and "a mood disorder" he has been battling his entire life. Law said he removed himself from the team to "get my thoughts back together. I felt a feeling of anger and I just wanted to throw it all away and quit the team," he said. The guard candidly discussed his condition following practice today. He said he had been troubled by his behavior toward a high school referee during a scrimmage. Law took out his frustrations on the official, and said the incident was a warning signal for him to seek treatment to combat an illness that has troubled him for years. "I needed help," he said. Law is taking medication and has been attending therapy sessions.
"In a sense, you feel like a weaker man because you have to raise your hand and ask for help," Law said. "But I found out over the last week that it made me a stronger person. I came back focused, and with the help of some medicine and talking with people on a regular basis, I'm back in good spirits. I'm back here 100 percent." He only played 2 games this season: 6 minutes in Atlanta's win at Orlando (November 1, 3 points) and another 6 minutes in a triumph against Philadelphia (November 1, 2 points). Law was selected by the Hawks as the 11th overall pick in the first round of the 2007 NBA Draft.
Law said his mood problems date to his childhood. He has always been able to find peace in the gym, but he has struggled with relationships away from the floor, and also said his mood swings seem to be most erratic when his life seems to be in order. "When everything is on the upside, I'm feeling the worst," said Law, who thanked his teammates, including Joe Johnson, for their support while he was away. "This is the epitome of a family organization. I want to go to war for these people. I would die for them, I really mean that." Hawks coach Mike Woodson wasn't surprised to hear that Law was open about discussing his condition. "He's a good kid," Woodson said. "He's a trustworthy guy and forthright." Law said he's not concerned about any outside perception about his condition and he's not worried about what others think about him. "Only God is my judge," he said. "All that matters is how I feel about myself."
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Grizzlies announce three team trade
MEMPHIS. -- The Memphis Grizzlies have acquired center Brian Cardinal and forward/center Shelden Williams in a three-team trade with Minnesota and Milwaukee, general manager Chris Wallace announced today. As part of the deal, the Bucks send guard Luke Ridnour to Minnesota, while the Grizzlies trade Darko Milicic (MILL-a-chich) to Milwaukee. “The trade we made today provides us with much needed options in both the short and long-term planning for our franchise,” said Wallace. “We acquired two proven, tough-minded veterans in Brian and Shelden. The trade also provides us with additional opportunities, both now and in the future, to consider adding more pieces to our roster.”
Cardinal (6-8, 240), an eight-year NBA veteran out of Purdue, owns career averages of 6.4 points and 3.0 rebounds in 263 games with Detroit, Washington, Golden State and the Timberwolves. He was acquired on June from Memphis, with the Timberwolves acquiring the draft rights to 6-10 forward Kevin Love, the fifth overall pick in the 2008 NBA Draft, and 6-8 guard/forward Mike Miller (last week traded to Washington) in an eight-player trade that sent the draft rights to O.J. Mayo, the third overall draft pick, to the Grizzlies. As part of the deal, the Wolves also acquired center Jason Collins, with Memphis receiving guards Marko Jaric and Greg Buckner, and forward Antoine Walker. Cardinal only lasted 4 months in Minnesota and returned to his previous team.
Williams (6-9, 250), originally selected by the Atlanta Hawks with the fifth overall pick in the 2006 NBA Draft, holds career averages of 4.6 points and 4.1 rebounds per game in 175 career appearances. He was acquired by Sacramento last February in the deal that sent Mike Bibby to the Hawks, and then the Kings traded him to Minnesota, along guard Bobby Brown, in exchange for guard Rashad McCants and center Calvin Booth. He finished his career at Duke University as only the third player in NCAA history, along with David Robinson and Pervis Ellison, to record at least 1,500 points (1,905), 1,000 rebounds (1,262), 350 blocks (422), and 150 steals (161). In 139 career games (128 starts), the two-time national defensive player of the year and Duke's all-time leader in rebounding and blocked shots averaged 13.8 points (57.3 FG%), 9.1 rebounds and 3.13 blocks per game.
Originally drafted by the Seattle SuperSonics with the 14th overall pick in the 2003 NBA Draft, Ridnour (6-2, 175) played five seasons in Seattle averaging 8.8 ppg. and 4.9 apg. On August, he was traded in a three-team deal that sent him and Adrian Griffin from Oklahoma City to Milwaukee, Maurice Williams from Milwaukee to Cleveland, Desmond Mason from Milwaukee to Oklahoma City, Damon Jones from Cleveland to Milwaukee, and Joe Smith from Cleveland to Oklahoma City. This season, he averaged 11.1 ppg. and 8.7 apg. with the Bucks. “Our challenge from day one has been to shape our roster in a way that our fans will see a team that is competitive, that plays hard every night and has a chance to win,” said Timberwolves general manager Jim Stack. “We feel that the adquisition of Luke continues to move us toward that goal for this season and beyond.”
Bucks general manager John Hammond said that “This deal allows us the opportunity to pick up a young, big man in Darko. We look forward to his contributions to our ball club and wish Luke all the best in Minnesota.” Milicic (7-0, 250) has played in 96 career NBA regular season games with the Pistons, averaging 1.6 ppg. and 1.2 rpg. in 5.8 minpg. He was originally selected by Detroit during the first round (second overall) of the 2003 NBA Draft. Milicic also played 110 games with the Orlando Magic, averaging 7.8 ppg. and 4.8 rpg. in 22.4 mpg. “This gives us the opportunity to acquire a seven-footer with a high skill level,” said Bucks head coach Scott Skiles. “We feel that he will be a nice complement playing alongside Charlie (Villanueva) and Andrew (Bogut).” On July 13, 2007 he was signed by the Grizzlies, where he averaged 7.2 ppg. and 6.1 rpg. in 2007/08 and 9.7 ppg. and 4.7 rpg. in this 6 games with Memphis.
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Gooden trying to find way with Spurs
SAN ANTONIO. -- Even though his days as a starter seem gone for good, Drew Gooden still believes he can be an important piece of Gregg Popovich's rotation. Two days after Popovich started him against Phoenix, the coach benched him against Portland and then criticized his work ethic afterward. He was back on the practice floor Thursday, still hoping to find a role with the team. "I feel like I was working hard already honestly," Gooden said. "There's nothing I can do. I can't get days back, I can't get practices back. All I can do is try to come out here and play hard here in practice and do extra stuff after practice and get back that way to be in the starting lineup." Gooden was been the Spurs' starting power forward, with Tim Duncan taking the spot at center, since being signed by manager R.J. Buford. Gooden was traded by the Chicago Bulls to Sacramento and was waived by the Kings.
Still, Gooden was surprised when Popovich didn't use him at all in a home loss to New York, even though his size could have been useful against the Knicks' frontline that was punishing the Spurs. "I was kind of caught off guard by it. I went into the last game same way I do every game, with the same approach, preparing myself mentally and getting ready for a game," he said. "I didn't have any kind of warning or nothing. Not playing that game did kind of open my eyes a little bit, but it's the hand I was dealt so I've just got to make the best of it, keep working and we'll see what happens." Popovich said Gooden had a good practice, but added, "It didn't take one day to get out of the rotation, not going to take one day to get in, either."
The Spurs then played against Milwaukee and Gooden played almost half an hour, with 12 points and 9 rebounds, following Duncan's dislocated finger in his right hand. "Like anybody else, you've got to have your breaks, you've got to play hard every day, you've got to come and want it every day and then you hope you're good enough to play," Popovich said. "I think the two weeks that he was out hurt him. Let's just go forward and what have we got, seven months left? Make it eight straight months of good days and something good will happen. Always does."
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Kings acquire Nate Robinson
SACRAMENTO. -- The Sacramento Kings have acquired guard Nate Robinson from the New York Knicks in exchange for forward Cedric Simmons, Kings general manager Geoff Petrie announced today.
Robinson (5-9, 180) was originally drafted by the Phoenix Suns after his junior year as the 21st overall pick in the 2005 NBA Draft and averaged 14.4 points and 3.3 assists in 89 games for the University of Washington. The Seattle, WA-native earned First Team All-Pac-10 honors his sophomore and junior seasons. “Welcoming Nate to the Kings family is another step in the right direction for this franchise,” coach Reggie Theus said. “Not only does this trade make our team younger and more athletic, but it adds a strong defensive presence to our perimeter. We think he will be a perfect compliment to our existing backcourt. I am sorry to see Cedric leave us, he was one of our toughest frontline players this past season, but this trade is just one step in a large plan to improve this team.”
Simmons (6-9, 235), 21 years old, was selected in the first round (15th overall pick) of the 2006 NBA Draft by the New Orleans Hornets and the season after, got traded to the Cleveland Cavaliers in exchange for guard David Wesley. In 43 games (four starts) during the 2006-07 season, his best so far, he averaged 2.9 points and 2.5 rebounds in 12.4 minutes per game and registered career highs in both points (10) and rebounds (9) versus Denver on Dec. 29, 2006. In his third NBA season out of North Carolina State, he averaged 2.5 points (.524 FGs, .429 FTs) and 1.1 rebounds through 11 contests for the Chicago Bulls and has career averages of 2.4 points (.419 FGs, .386 FTs) and 2.0 rebounds per game through 68 outings. He was acquired by the Kings, along Drew Gooden, Andres Nocioni and Ike Diogu in a three-team trade that sent Brad Miller and John Salmons to Chicago and Michael Ruffin to the Portland Trail Blazers. “Cedric is a young, talented player,” said Knicks coach Mike D'Antoni. “We look forward to participating in his continued development here in New York.”
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Jazz' Okur cleared of drunk driving charge
UTAH. -- Utah Jazz center Mehmet Okur was found not guilty today on a drunken-driving charge. A Harris County jury cleared the 30-year-old player of the misdemeanor, court spokesman Fred King said in an e-mail to The Associated Press. Okur was arrested in August after he was pulled over by police who said he made an erratic lane change and was driving without his headlights on. The Jazz are 4-8, 4th place in the Northwest Division and a shared 12th place with Dallas and Portland in the Western Conference. Last season, Okur averaged 14.5 points and 7.7 rebounds in 72 games. In 12 games this season, the Turkish is averaging 13.3 points and 7.3 rebounds.
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Sixers trade for Ryan Gomes
PHILADELPHIA. -- Philadelphia 76ers President and General Manager Billy King announced today that the Sixers acquired forward Ryan Gomes from the Minnesota Timberwolves in exchange for guard Willie Green. Green (6-3, 201), Detroit Mercy product, was the 41st overall pick in the 2003 NBA Draft and his draft rights were acquired from the Seattle SuperSonics for the rights to Paccelis Morlende, the 50th overall selection, and an undisclosed amount of cash. He averaged a career-best 22.6 points per game during his senior season, a mark that ranked 11th nationally, earning him Horizon League Player of the Year honors and an Honorable Mention All-America selection by The Associated Press. Green averaged 14.3 points per game during his four-year collegiate career, finishing as the fourth leading scorer in Detroit Mercy history with 1,779 points. He connected on 35.2 percent (120-for-341) from three-point range, a mark that ranks sixth in Detroit Mercy history. He averaged 9.0 points and 1.9 rebounds in five seasons with Philadelphia and 10.1 points and 2.3 rebounds this season.
Gomes (6-7, 245), forward from Providence College, finished his collegiate career as the Friars' all-time leading scorer with 2,138 points and fifth in rebounds with 1,028. In 2006-07, Gomes posted averages of 12.1 points (.467 FG%) and 5.6 rebounds in 31.2 minutes per game in 73 games (60 starts). and was acquired from the Boston Celtics in the trade that sent Kevin Garnett to Boston. In two seasons with the Celtics, Gomes has appeared in 134 games (93 starts) and has averaged 10.0 ppg, 5.3 rpg and 27.2 mpg. Gomes, 25, was drafted in the second round (50th overall) in the 2005 NBA Draft. In his first games with their new teams, Gomes and Green will play against eachother.
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