NBA Live 09 will not be released for the PC

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Postby benji on Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:03 pm

How is making a simple port using already existing devkits and capabilities more expensive than undertaking a MMOG enterprise specifically for the PC? And why would they give up their cash cow (weak annual releases) to lose money on a MMOG enterprise?

EA would be vastly overestimating the amount of people who would subscribe to such a thing. As well as their own online capabilities. I mean, they still don't have a viable digital distribution package, let alone concept. (Step One: Don't make gamers, who have for three decades been used to buying a game and having it forever, have to "renew" their access to the games every year.)

I love Moore's post, it's nothing but talking down to who he considers to be children. If that is "addressing the core issues" I don't know how he continues to get work in the video game industry.
The PC as a platform for authentic, fully-licensed, simulation sports games has declined radically in the past three years as the next generation consoles, with their high definition graphics and 5.1 sound capabilities have attracted millions of consumers to eschew the “lean in” PC sports gaming experience for the “lean back” full room console experience.

And as EA, the only and easily largest PC sports game maker who hits multiple non-simulator fields, continued to port shoddy PS2 versions having not made a PC-based version in what is now eight years, nor chosen to port the "next generation" versions.

Piracy isn't a justification for not making PC games, as he clearly hasn't had EA evaluate any other platforms then.

If there's a $399 PC than can run Crysis...

1. Port the 360 version, give it an actual PC-centric UI, and put it on Steam.
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Postby talakitok on Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:04 am

There Market Strategy regarding the declining of PC Release Would Be there FallDown :| ...

Last Chance...Be considerate EA??... :roll:
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Postby Andrew on Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:25 pm

The PC has not been abandoned permanently though. Hopefully this means that this is merely a hiatus as far as NBA Live for the PC is concerned.
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Postby Pdub on Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:41 am

Should we expect that announcement about the future of the PC version of NBA Live soon?
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Postby rdelizo35 on Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:02 am

I hope that they revive NBA Live for the PC using a next-gen (Ps3/Xbox360) port of the game for the PC.

Pdub, hard telling when EA and if EA plans to bring back Live to the PC. I have hope that they will.
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Postby Andrew on Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:43 pm

Pdub wrote:Should we expect that announcement about the future of the PC version of NBA Live soon?


Not that I'm aware of. It's something they'll probably address once NBA Live 2010 is in production.
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Postby Pdub on Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:34 pm

clueminati017 from the EA forums wrote: It's smooth and I know CurrentGen users are really get pissed that nothing graphic wise has changed... Completely. Although, at the same time they can buy the game still since the PC users doesn't have nothing to play on their computer, but news is going to be coming real soon for you PC users. Just tune into NBA-LIVE.com about what's going on.


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Postby deihatein on Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:38 pm

Maybe that is the NBA Live PC Project that we have here in NLSC that he is talking about?
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Postby Andrew on Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:47 pm

I'm guessing so since there's no other announcement as yet.
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Postby JaoSming on Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:38 pm

Did you tell them about the project while up there?
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Postby Andrew on Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:20 am

I did, I was told to keep them informed so they could post announcements on the official site for us.
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Postby IDSZIDAN on Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:59 pm

Is that be it for NBA Live series on PC or should we wait for NBA LIve 2010 on PC.
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Postby Andrew on Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:23 pm

We don't know for sure at this stage but for the moment it looks like there's hope for the future of NBA Live on the PC, based on what Peter Moore has said about the PC platform. The only thing we know for sure at the moment is that there will be no NBA Live 09 for the PC.
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Postby Pdub on Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:34 pm

I guess he was talking about the PC mod then.
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Postby Andrew on Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:55 pm

I'd say so. As I said, we should also be getting some exposure for it in the community blogs so I'll be sending along info on it.
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Postby tee-pane on Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:14 am

WTF? Why would they do this, there are thousands of PC gamers waiting for 09! :-x Man, think of the ppls who can't afford a PS3, XBOX 360, or any other damn system. :(
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Postby Andrew on Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:15 pm

Their reasons for doing so have pretty much been covered in this thread. It certainly wasn't something they did out of spite.
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Postby JWL3 on Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:04 pm

Andrew wrote:Their reasons for doing so have pretty much been covered in this thread. It certainly wasn't something they did out of spite.


Course not. No one turns down free cash. They made a conscious decision to ignore us this year. Look at Grand Theft Auto IV for instance. The PC version may yet come out but why are they delaying its release up to 6 months? Because it's probably much less profitable and they don't want to cannibalize sales on the PS3 and Xbox. Given a choice, most people with good PC's will buy the PC version because it is $39.99 vs. $59.99, you can download mods, you can get no-DVD patches to avoid putting in the stupid DVD, and you can update much easier on the internet. I'm sure all the game developers have signed agreements with Sony and Microsoft to hold back PC releases to get anxious buyers to migrate to their systems.
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Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:44 pm

Maybe, though I would think that if they were doing to drive people to the consoles they'd flat out abandon the PC platform which they haven't done (yet). They keep alluding to doing a "reboot" on the PC which hopefully means they'll at least be porting the 360/PS3 versions to the PC. We'll see.
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Postby OldReliable on Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:07 am

I have watched way to many games stop the PC version. Im fighting till the end.
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Postby lionheart_ on Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:40 am

Andrew do you have the link on our own MODS for the 08 version. Man am I disappointed, I saved up to upgrade my PC and I was raring to buy the PC version for 09 only to hear the news. What do you think can we do with our own version?
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Postby Andrew on Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:47 pm

I'm not sure what you mean. There are a lot of patches posted in the NBA Live 08 Releases & Previews section if that's what you're talking about.
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Postby Angelo on Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:06 am

I think he means or he was referring to the 06 mod that you were making
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Postby Andrew on Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:29 am

He's referring to NBA Live 08 though.
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Postby ps3owner on Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:40 am

This would be the second time that live wasn't released for the PC. NBA Live 2002 was released only on the PS1, PS2, and Xbox.

FYI, NBA live 2009 would be available for the PSP, PS3, Xbox 360, Ps2, WII. That's it for the PC :(. NBA Live 2001 was the last NBA Live that I played on the PC. I liked NBA 98, 99, and 2000. Back then the PC had superb graphics as compared to the PS1.
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Postby Andrew on Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:55 am

I think most people are aware of that. As for it being the end of the PC version, that hasn't been confirmed by a longshot and the producers at the Community Event were quite receptive to the idea of further PC releases so we'll have to see what happens.
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Postby rdelizo35 on Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:09 am

Andrew,

That's good to know that the producers were at least receptive to the idea of future NBA Live games on the PC. I hope that they do consider a "reboot," as you said, and finally give us a decent port of the 360/PS3 version.
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Postby Andrew on Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:12 am

It seems to be the MO but we'll have to wait and see. I don't think we'll see a team developing a seperate PC version but simply porting the 360/PS3 version would be a huge step up from the PS2 port we've been getting on the PC.
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Postby hawks24 on Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:22 am

anyone who buys live 09 for wii is an idiot
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Postby Sportsgamer on Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:01 pm

But guys talking they dont have enough money for a console somehow pretty dumb. Unless they dont get their PCs elsewhere a 360 port to the PC would be much more expensive than buying a 360 :mrgreen:
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Postby Andrew on Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:25 pm

Only if they have to upgrade their PCs. Otherwise, buying a new PC game is not going to cost as much as buying a new console.
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Postby Voxel on Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:26 pm

Sportsgamer wrote:But guys talking they dont have enough money for a console somehow pretty dumb. Unless they dont get their PCs elsewhere a 360 port to the PC would be much more expensive than buying a 360 :mrgreen:


depends on the country you live in.

the cheapest xbox360's around here go for about 650 US dollar.

that's just about a whole months salary for the job i do. it's an above average salary and you can pay the rent of a decent appartment for less than that around here.

PC hardware isn't that ridiculously higher priced as consoles.

makes you think twice about giving away 100% of the actual US price to buy a console at a local import/reseller instead of paying a much more bearable 30% more for PC hardware.
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Postby Sportsgamer on Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:03 pm

From my knowledge a 360 coss 200€ and a quad-core with 2gig ram about 600€
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Postby hawks24 on Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:05 am

360s are now 300 dollars in the the u.s.
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Postby mr2ksports on Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:24 am

I hope they would have their own developers for PC for the future version of Live. Just like the successful COD4! It makes the game playable even if you have a P4 system.

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Postby Andrew on Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:49 am

Sportsgamer wrote:From my knowledge a 360 coss 200€ and a quad-core with 2gig ram about 600€


I don't think everyone would have to upgrade their hardware though, especially if they're avid PC gamers.
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Postby mikogoincyco93 on Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:33 pm

who cares? theres not going to be anything new in NBA Live 09.
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Postby Andrew on Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:21 pm

Actually, there is quite a bit of new stuff in NBA Live 09.
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Postby Beatboxer on Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:44 pm

What about a NBA Live X for the PC, is it possible? I mean, a NG console ported of the Live 09. They can release a copy like this at that interval before Live 10 release.

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Postby nba_baller on Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:28 pm

Yeah, like a preview, demo-type thing like Grand Turismo 5 Prolouge(?) did.
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Postby Andrew on Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:12 pm

Possible, yes. Probable, no.
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Postby Sportsgamer on Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:35 pm

As a little preview we can rip 09 ps2 :mrgreen:
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Postby Scorer--20 on Sat Aug 02, 2008 3:32 am

I prefer to wait for a good game than buying a shitty game

Also , live 08 with Alby's patch is a really good game , so i think the solution its a patch like the old 07 SUM , or just rosters updates , maybe try to convert some animations from older nba lives , like some normal dunks and layups because the ones that are in the game are crappy , not realistic and also so so so repetitive , because there is no variety of moves.

We could work trying to add some animations from March Madness ( i really like those dunks and layups , they are not flashy , but realistic , and all i want is a simulator of basketball , not an arcade shit .

I know this post its going a little of topic , but well xD
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Postby C-77 on Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:06 pm

I'm so dissapointed that nba live 09 will not be released for the PC
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Postby Andrew on Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:25 pm

I think most of us are but it would be arguably more disappointing if a PC version similar to last year - problems and all - was released. If NBA Live is indeed returning to the PC next year as Peter Moore's latest comments suggest, presumably it will be a port of the 360/PS3 version which is certainly the silver lining in having to wait a year.
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Postby benji on Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:06 pm

Sportsgamer wrote:But guys talking they dont have enough money for a console somehow pretty dumb. Unless they dont get their PCs elsewhere a 360 port to the PC would be much more expensive than buying a 360 :mrgreen:

If a $399 PC can run Crysis...
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Postby xox on Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:03 pm

If you invest the $399 for a PC without a monitor,you can buy a PC that can handle Crysis easy...
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Postby rich13one on Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:26 am

well in that case i guess i'll buy more often their products...through piracy...
kobe rebounds bring down the ball kobe fakes but kobe drives then take the lay up..he blows the his lay up..kobe rebound kobe take the shot again,, misses..kobe pass to kobe...WTF!!!
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Postby MikeK. on Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:12 pm

Just FYI folks, EA Sports are releasing a next gen port of Fifa 09 on PC, which would surely mean they haven't dumped the entire PC department. That said though I don't expect to see Live PC making a return since 90% of people that would buy it live in the US, where consoles are selling too damn well.
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Postby benji on Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:42 pm

If you invest the $399 for a PC without a monitor,you can buy a PC that can handle Crysis easy...

You're posting without a monitor? Neat.
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