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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:18 am

I didn't care for it at all, at this point the Meg bashing is just stale and unfunny. True, she's not a great character, but the writers' embracing and even celebration of the fact they aren't able to make her a good character or really do anything with her except pile on the shit just highlights their lack of talent and general misanthropy. Mean-spirited humour and unsympathetic characters can be funny and work really well when done properly, but Family Guy no longer makes it work in my view. There's no cleverness, no wit, the only joke is "Ha ha, look how mean these people are being!". It goes hand-in-hand with the other uninspired jokes they keep trotting out, like the stereotypical Asian and Jewish gags in the latest episode. They don't even work as far as politically incorrect shock value is concerned, because they're painfully unoriginal.

I won't say that I'll never watch the show again, but the latest episode did actually have me seriously thinking about it. It just left a really bad taste in my mouth, featuring just about all the things I don't like about the show. Had it included a chicken fight and a Conway Twitty cutaway, I may well have been turned off the show for good after that one.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:16 am

Latest episode could do without the long Christmas ghost scene, other than that it was alright
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:56 am

For me, not much better than the last episode, which I loathed. A couple of decent lines but the painfully long Christmas ghost gag, the standard "Meg is something insulting in the story world" gag, a run-of-the-mill "celebrity is old" gag (potshots at people like Cher and Madonna over their age were once zingers, but there's no sting to them now)...ugh, another disappointment.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Qballer on Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:30 am

i read the episode description and it sounded like the star wars episodes, only with biblical characters so it seemed promising. it seemed a bit shorter than i expected
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:46 pm

Hence the amount of padding, the Christmas ghost scene being a prime example. It probably would've been better if they'd done a three story episode instead.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:30 am

Latest episode was pretty bad. Only noteworthy moment was the Brian Williams cameo. More meg jokes, more Chris is dumb jokes, stupid cutaways, etc.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:38 pm

Agreed, I go so far as to call it awful. Pretty much every joke was uninspired, more attempts at offensive humour that forgot about the humour, more mean-spiritedness and no freshness or originality. This season has largely sucked so far.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Qballer on Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:08 pm

i liked the russell brand joke. it pretty much sums up my thoughts on that guy
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:25 pm

It was perhaps one of their more on-point jabs, but these days I feel Family Guy should lift its game to a much higher standard before it takes shots at anyone, deserving or otherwise.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:27 am

Episode was a bit better yesterday. The main point of last week's episode was Space Camp, which ended up going into a trip to Space where they couldn't get back. This one had a better plot
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Qballer on Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:27 am

i dont think we watch family guy for the plot :lol:
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:57 pm

It's not where you look for great storytelling, but at their best they are usually able to tell a coherent story along with having good jokes. When the plot is underwhelming, it's all on the gags which means when they're off the mark - as they have been recently - the show scrapes the bottom of the barrel.

Maybe my expectations have been lowered by the recent poor run of episodes but I liked this one a lot better. They stuck to one plot so as ixcuincle said it was coherent, most of the jokes landed and the episode didn't have the vile mean-spiritedness and bad attempts at shock humour that have plagued the show as of late, thus all the humour wasn't sucked out of the episode. Best one in a little while.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Phil89 on Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:34 pm

"You forgot to say.."

"..I forgot to say clear"
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:46 pm

One of the more memorable jokes from the latest episode, for sure.

Not bad, not bad at all. Another one that's thankfully a far cry from that run of three or four really awful episodes late last year. There were a couple of the usual lame attempts at shock humour that fell absolutely flat, but they kept the bad jokes to a minimum and actually ended on a pretty funny one, instead of the clunkers that they try to punctuate a lot of episodes with.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:21 pm

This episode is kind of like the Simpsons short stories episode, but it's alright. Also like the time machine bit :lol:
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:24 am

Yeah, it definitely reminded me of "22 Short Films About Springfield". While it's nowhere near as good, credit where it's due: it was still very well done, entertaining and quite funny. My only real gripes were Meg's story and the cervical cancer joke; the former because it's been done so many times and once again the joke was basically just "Hurr hurr, let's dump on Meg", the latter because I felt it was in incredibly poor taste (even for a show with Family Guy's tone) and another uninspired attempt at shock humour that forgot about the humour part. Other than that, one of my favourite episodes this season.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Qballer on Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:18 pm

was a very good episode all-around. i liked how they jumped to all the characters during the episode
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:21 am

Good episode last week. The Herbert character and all of the related jokes probably should've been run into the ground at this point, but they're still usually pretty funny and they worked this time as well; Mike Henry's voice acting probably has a lot to do with that. The subplot wasn't anything special, a couple of funny moments but it was filler crammed with filler. Mayor West was, as he so often does, provided one of the best non-sequiturs of the episode.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:22 pm

The episode this week was just okay. The cutaways are stupid and the repeated references to Peter being a grown-up kid are stupid.

At this point, Family Guy is just low brow television compared to quality programming like Bob's Burgers and American Dad. I've become a bigger fan of those shows, which don't rely on stupid gags and simply tell a funny story.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:47 pm

I'd call the latest episode pretty awful. The "sock Lois" scene was about the only funny part for me, everything else fell flat. Family Guy can be very funny when it's on, but at this point it doesn't seem like they're trying. I hate to make the inevitable Simpsons comparison, but even in their post-post-classic era, it still feels like they're trying and it usually means a pretty decent episode at least once in a while. In fact, compared to other recent seasons, Season 24 of The Simpsons has been reasonably good for the most part.

Family Guy, though? They're really phoning it in and the latest episode was as good an example as any. Peter farts on Meg's head for the millionth time. We get a few more wheelchair jokes at Joe's expense. There's another couple of uninspired Jewish jokes, which has become a "once an episode" affair for them. We have Peter and Lois being horrible to their kids and lousy people in general, yet we're supposed to care about their marital problems...probably, they seemed to be going that route with the plot at any rate.

This is why I really dislike it when the show takes swipes at other shows, actors and the like. Aside from being lazy humour and a crutch for them, they're in no position to comment on the quality of other shows while putting out rubbish themselves. Perhaps if they spent a bit more time coming up with jokes and freshly funny stories and situations involving their characters and less time bashing things the writers don't like, Family Guy would be more consistently entertaining. Again, when it's firing on all cylinders, it's very funny and doesn't necessarily need great storytelling. Right now though, they're phoning it in, in all respects.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Phil89 on Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:46 pm

It kinda annoyed me that Peter didn't recognise the voice of the person he's been married to for years. It's not like Lois put on an accent or anything either.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:50 pm

I guess we're supposed to believe he's just that stupid and clueless.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Phil89 on Wed Mar 13, 2013 3:30 pm

Not a stretch really given 95% of the things we've seen him do in the past. :wink:
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby benji on Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:13 pm

What if I told you I'm holding in a very big dump?
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby benji on Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:04 pm

Cliche, but pretty decent episode this week.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:37 pm

Closer to awful for me.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:59 am

Yeah, it was pretty bad. "Guys, not all Muslims are terrorists...except these guys!"
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:54 pm

Not sure if 12 Angry Men is as popular over there as it is in America, but this episode was a pretty bad rendition of it. I understand they are trying to pay homage to it, but it just wasn't that funny.

I like when they do parodies, but they have to do it the right way. Like the Star Wars parodies. Those were great. This one wasn't funny. Except for Adam We.

Here is how real comedy takes on 12 Angry men.

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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby benji on Mon Mar 25, 2013 5:30 pm

Problem was putting Brian in the Fonda role.

Awesome burn on JFK.

I'm starting to think all you do is dick around.

And the REAL WAY TO DO IT IS HOW KING OF THE HILL DID IT. I DIDN'T DROWN THAT BOY.

PUMP JOCKEY.

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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:16 am

I'm not familiar with it, but I thought the episode was alright nevertheless. As is often the case these days, a couple of their lazier attempts at controversial humour fell flat, but overall it was much better than the previous couple of episodes for me.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:24 pm

The intro was pretty cool with King of the Hill & the American Dad meetup. Good to see Hank Hill on TV again.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Qballer on Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:20 am

ixcuincle wrote:The intro was pretty cool with King of the Hill & the American Dad meetup. Good to see Hank Hill on TV again.

easily the best part of the episode. does anybody watch the simpsons? i saw on facebook they had simpsonized breaking bad characters, but breaking bad isn't a fox show
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby benji on Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:25 pm

Qballer wrote:does anybody watch the simpsons?

Nope.

i saw on facebook they had simpsonized breaking bad characters, but breaking bad isn't a fox show

When has The Simpsons ever been limited to Fox properties?

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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:16 am

Qballer wrote:easily the best part of the episode.


Agreed. The episode itself wasn't much to write home about, nothing spectacularly bad like a few eps have been this season, but still kind of phoned in.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Wed May 01, 2013 9:59 pm

Latest episode was quite a good one, I thought. Pretty funny throughout, surprisingly good storytelling for Family Guy; not quite on par with the earlier seasons of course, but way better than some of the garbage that's comprised this season. They avoided pretty much everything that so often brings the show down these days, so it was a nice change of pace.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Thu May 02, 2013 12:03 pm

Yeah, Stewie and Brian adventures are usually pretty good. The "Peter gets sick" B plot was kind of stupid.

Loved the ending though. "Mom, Stewie's dead."
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Thu May 02, 2013 1:29 pm

I actually thought Peter's story was more the A plot, it felt like it was getting the most screen time. It wasn't anything special, but I thought it was alright.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Thu May 09, 2013 10:42 am

So, we have another change to the status quo with Horace being killed and Jerome taking over the Clam. I've got to give Family Guy some credit there, they are more willing to change things up with their continuity compared to some other shows. At the same time though, it seems kind of pointless as he was a very minor character that rarely had any lines, even in scenes at the Clam, so it was kind of lacking in imagination. There were a couple of funny moments here and there, but as is often the case there were too many long winded and meandering jokes and cutaways that lacked a good punchline.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Qballer on Thu May 09, 2013 2:39 pm

remember they killed off tom tucker's co-anchor in the season premiere at mayor west's mansion?

christine lakin :drool: has been a welcome addition as joyce kinney
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Fri May 10, 2013 9:48 am

That one was definitely a bolder move as she was a more prominent character. All the same, I get the feeling they're running out of ideas and ways to use certain characters, so they're killing two birds with one stone by killing people off.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Fri May 17, 2013 9:08 pm

"Farmer Guy" was another one of those episodes that isn't downright abysmal, but I can't think of a line or joke that was particularly funny or memorable, nor a cutaway that really worked. Plot and pacing was about average for a recent Family Guy episode. Another one that was pretty forgettable overall.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Mon May 20, 2013 12:11 pm

The last 2 episodes were pretty good. Vegas one another Brian - Stewie adventure with sci-fi mixed in. Second one wasn't bad either. Liked the REM reference. :lol:
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Qballer on Mon May 20, 2013 12:39 pm

second one was whatever, loved the first one. the stewie-brian episodes are so much better than your average family guy episode
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Mon May 20, 2013 8:02 pm

Archibald Meatpants :lol:
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Tue May 21, 2013 10:15 am

I thought they were both decent. I liked the way they resolved the paradox at the end of "Roads to Vegas" and there were some funny moments throughout, though it started off pretty slow with an unfunny cutaway 20 seconds into the episode. I was a little surprised that there wasn't a big musical number given the location, Seth MacFarlane's passion for the Rat Pack sound and his singing chops, but at the same time the episode did fine without one. "No Country Club for Old Men" wasn't bad either. The ending was predictable and last minute, but the humour made up for it.

Looking back on it, Season 11 was a pretty disappointing season. There was that string of four or five episodes that I felt were just awful and had me wondering if it is actually worth checking out new episodes every week. If nothing else, it feels like they're going through the motions with shoddy plots (even by their standards), cutaways that are too often too long without a satisfying punchline, uninspired attempts at edgy/controversial humour and continued potshots at shows that are way better than their current product. In short, a lot of their worst traits have been prominent throughout the season. It's disappointing because the show can still be very funny and entertaining when it's "on" but when it's misfiring, it's painful. I feel they were off way more than they were on in Season 11.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:11 pm

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox ... isode.html

Family Guy and Simpsons will have a "crossover" episode in fall 2014.

Two shows used to have a rivalry ("Plagarismo" "Plagarismo de plagiarismo") but it's nice to see them reconcile. I still remember Homer appearing on Family Guy. "Looks like this is one we beat you to."
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:52 pm

Interesting. With Seth MacFarlane's guest appearance on The Simpsons last season and Dan Castellaneta's guest appearance as Homer in the episode you mentioned, it seems like the rivalry has been put to rest, which is for the best in my opinion. I don't expect it to be The Greatest Thing Ever, but hopefully it's a fun episode all the same.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Sauru on Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:52 pm

Andrew wrote:Interesting. With Seth MacFarlane's guest appearance on The Simpsons last season and Dan Castellaneta's guest appearance as Homer in the episode you mentioned, it seems like the rivalry has been put to rest, which is for the best in my opinion. I don't expect it to be The Greatest Thing Ever, but hopefully it's a fun episode all the same.



i fully expect it to be the greatest thing ever in the history of forever
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby velvet bliss on Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:13 am

I expect Comic Book Guy to dub it as the worse crossover ever.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Sauru on Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:44 am

shadowgrin wrote:I expect Comic Book Guy to dub it as the worse crossover ever.


he better. i want to see burns show up too. they better fucking have burns
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