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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Qballer on Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:35 am

the episode had a strange vibe to it with Quagmire and Meg as the core of the story and with Brian & Stewie in the background
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:49 am

I thought it was a good enough episode with some funny moments but as usual they dragged a few jokes on too long and past being funny.

I really felt Quagmire should've gotten the shit beaten out of him though. Considering his tirade against Brian, the beating he gave him after he hooked up with the former Mr Quagmire (speaking of which, that made for a good line in this episode) then flat out running him over, he was due for a comeuppence here. Instead, he gets a quietly angry threat from Lois and a bit of a shove from Peter. Disappointing.

Still, it was a pretty good Meg episode that treated her like a character and not just a punching bag, with better characterisation for Lois and Peter that didn't compromise the humour. I still think Quagmire's downfall needed to match some of the beatdowns we've seen before on the show and the button they ended on was another pointless and meandering moment instead of being something with punch. That aside, it's another one I liked well enough.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby el badman on Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:47 pm

I thought it was pretty good too, a little creepy but pretty good. I agree that seeing Peter or even Lois beat the shit out of Quagmire would have made sense, but oh well.
That ending was completely off though.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Qballer on Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:26 pm

yeah i was expecting someone to get beat up too. or at least an epic fight scene
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:14 am

Glad to know I'm not the only one, makes me feel a little less bloodthirsty. :lol:
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:42 am

Latest episode ("The Blind Side") was very ordinary in my opinion. A couple of funny moments but it reminded me of the episode where Brian dates an older woman, right down to the "Brian makes a mistake and isn't forgiven for it" resolution. The jokes about her blindness felt a bit awkward, relying too heavily on pushing the boundaries of good taste and political correctness to be funny and falling short. Looks like True Blood is their new go-to reference when they don't have a joke and want to rip on something they don't like.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:18 pm

Another "serious" episode. I don't like the direction this is going. I know I've disagreed with Andrew on this, but these serious episodes just don't do it for me. I want to watch something funny, not Lois trying to steal a baby just so she can get medical treatment for him.

Were a few funny moments but they were largely overshadowed by the serious nature of the main plot.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:03 pm

I agree that it's not Family Guy's strong suit. I think they can do more serious stuff and tell a decent story, even if the gags-per-minute formula is their forte.

In this instance, I'd certainly agree that the serious tone didn't make for a good episode. However, for me that's because it was handled clumsily, not simply because it was serious. If Family Guy were able to put forward a slightly more balanced point of view, if its characters were more sympathetic, perhaps it could handle episodes like this a bit better and provide some social commentary without being too self-righteous and still being entertaining. Their position on the issue doesn't offend me, truth be told I'm on that side of the argument. I don't like the way they expressed the argument though, or the way they made strawmen out of the other side. In TV Tropes parlance, they shot the message. It made it an uncomfortable episode to watch.

The Peterang bit was funny, Mayor West was great as usual because Adam West just makes that character's oddities and non-sequiturs work, Peter's suggestion that Lois work a joke into her big speech then laughing at what clearly wasn't a joke...that stuff was good. The rest mostly fell flat with the usual uninspired potshots, jokes that went on too long and lost their punch, etc. I wouldn't call it the worst episode they've done, but the subject matter was too much for a show like this to handle and on the whole the humour wasn't up to scratch. Pretty forgettable.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:16 am

At this point, I feel the James Woods stuff has really been done to death. It's cool that he's willing to keep coming back and having some fun at his own expense, but they've already got Adam West doing that and that character is much funnier.

Still, I actually liked the latest episode, a lot more than other recent episodes. They didn't get too hung up on taking potshots and kept the overly long jokes to a minimum. Chris' subplot actually had a decent payoff and while you could see the resolution of the main plot coming a mile away, it was a fun enough ride. Disturbing stuff with Quagmire at the end, but it's probably the funniest he's been in a while. The cutaway with Brian and the squirrel was a highlight for me too, definitely a couple of funny moments in this one. Solid episode.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:25 pm

Since I've harped on the same old stuff for the past few years, it was my intention to briefly acknowledge anything subpar in the latest episode and then focus on stuff I liked. However, there wasn't much of that this week, with all the hallmarks of a bad Family Guy episode on display. I did enjoy the "if babies ran the world" cutaway, in part because I was expecting them to take a potshot at another TV show and they somehow refrained from doing so, so points for restraint if nothing else. Other than that, bottom of the barrel.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby el badman on Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:11 am

I would agree, most of this episode was either recycled or just plain stupid. Ricky Gervais didn't really add anything to it either. Boring stuff.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:12 am

The preview commercials didn't look appealing (they basically showed the dolphin , and I asked why I would want to see an episode centered around a dolphin visiting) but the B-plot was pretty good.

The dolphin got really annoying after a while, but that was supposed to be the point.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:56 pm

el badman wrote:Ricky Gervais didn't really add anything to it either.


Yeah, all his stuff was pretty painful. It reminded me of his most recent guest appearance on The Simpsons. I tend to hold him in high regard as a comedian so I don't think he's at fault, both shows have basically used him poorly in those appearances.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:25 pm

More of the same, so I won't rehash my previous criticisms. I did however like Quagmire's "Act of Rod" line and subsequent breaking of the fourth wall; it was far from being the epitome of wit or anything but it did make me laugh.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:13 am

LMAO at Barry, or a kid strongly resembling Barry, at fat camp.

There should be more subtle American Dad references in Family Guy. :cheeky:
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:44 am

Yeah, that's the first episode in a while that I've quite liked. It reminded me of the stuff they were doing in the first couple of post-revival seasons, which I was high up on. Pretty enjoyable fare on the whole.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:22 am

I thought the latest episode started a little slow but turned out alright. The ending was a bit ordinary and they've used a variation on "It was all just a dream" a fair few times now, but aside from that the plot was actually pretty good (kudos to the writers for weaving in Peter's fake newspaper) and it was pretty funny for the most part. "Who else but Shirtpants?"

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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby benji on Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:49 pm

I had to be properly culturally amused when I read the AV Club review of that episode and he thought that clip was a call back to the Stewie thing of earlier this season.

I liked it, if I thought they could write, that could have been a fun hour or two-part episode. Could have made it tops. But American Dad and Bob's Burgers swept the night like always so nobody cares.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:42 am

Latest episode was another enjoyable one for me. The Evite cutaway was the only gag that really bombed for me, one of those gags that just doesn't benefit from being overly long while also feeling late to the party in its commentary. The rest was pretty good though.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby benji on Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:05 am

Actually thought that was a lame episode, and I had been liking Family Guy to an extent recently.

American Dad and Bob's Burgers are just epic though, so maybe I'm comparing the show to higher standards now. But American Dad has been around all season, and I watch Family Guy before the good shows...

hmm...
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:12 am

Last episode wasn't really funny. The cutouts are getting stupid.

Best part was Lois getting beat up, only to see Stewie start instigating out of nowhere (Y)
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:47 pm

Think that was only the 2nd new episode of April.

Okay episode, the Stewie plot got boring after a while, plus Stewie hasn't been talking about world domination for several years. The second plot with Peter spooning with Quagmire :lol:
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby benji on Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:56 pm

I liked it, the fight was great.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Tue May 01, 2012 2:58 pm

Yeah not bad, not bad at all. I liked the tongue-in-cheek references to Stewie's earlier characterisation and catchphrase, and the fight scene was well done. The stuff with Peter and Quagmire was pretty funny as well. Solid, enjoyable episode.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Mon May 07, 2012 12:07 pm

Latest one was pretty good, although it was yet another Brian and Stewie adventure. Those two have had so many adventures in time, and around the world. And yet, every one of those episodes still remains entertaining.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Qballer on Mon May 07, 2012 3:58 pm

I'm a big Taken fan so I really liked the episode
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Wed May 09, 2012 2:27 pm

It was alright, probably the best use they've had for Meg's character in a while (Amish Guy wasn't too bad though). The Car Chase GPS was a fairly witty and spot on deconstruction of car chase scenes, Brian's "Oh, you're gone...and the family's gone" was a good reveal gag and I liked the cutaway with Peter "playing" the violin for money. As usual there were a few jokes that were longer than necessary, one or two that confused humour with just simply talking but no major complaints this time around. Good enough.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Thu May 17, 2012 7:06 pm

Watched the latest ep a couple of days ago, just getting around to posting some thoughts on it now. Not bad I guess, nothing terrible about it. They tried to milk a couple of jokes and cutaways a bit too long, but that's par for the course. The blissfully unaware hypocrisy of Peter's speech at the end, suggesting a system identical to the one they had just overthrown, was quite enjoyable, fit the social commentary they were going for and served as a decent enough way to restore the status quo by the next episode. The swipe at fans on the Internet wasn't particularly clever, but Peter's reaction did make it funny.

Stewie's lines that were completely ignored by the rest of the family were probably the best part of the episode though, reminding me a little of "I flew today" at the end of "Stew-roids".
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby benji on Thu May 17, 2012 7:35 pm

Problem I had was that it wasn't any different from a large number of episodes, just "updated" (to 2010) for a new catalyst. Peter reacts to something, takes on a fad/cause, leads to disaster, doesn't learn anything.

And it wasn't burning strawmen in as a well-written manner as the last time the guy wrote an episode mocking Republicans with the Rush Limbaugh episode.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby benji on Tue May 22, 2012 3:26 am

I think I'll have to go with Point of Stew.

EDIT: Always up for a chicken fight.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Tue May 22, 2012 12:21 pm

The first episode was good (Viewer mail), and the 2nd was okay. I wish they'd have more episodes like the first. 3 random stories instead of a story focused on some ancillary character.

Been saying this before, but Robin Williams is not funny, so I enjoyed the 2nd story, first episode. :lol:
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Fri May 25, 2012 12:06 pm

ixcuincle wrote:Robin Williams is not funny


What?

Actually, it seems you're definitely not alone on that one. I still disagree, at his best I think he is actually funny. He hasn't done an outstanding movie for a while but he did have some good ones in the 90s and what I've seen of his stand-up has been good. He was great in a guest appearance on Whose Line Is It Anyway?, too. His shtick can admittedly get old though and like Bill Cosby before him, he gone from the one making the jokes to being the punchline because the act hasn't aged well or changed enough through the years.

But even if the critique isn't off-base...should Family Guy really be the ones to make it, time and time again? They're ripping on him for being simplistic, repetitive and stale, but the same could be said of Family Guy's last five seasons and in my view, this segment. How many times have they taken a shot at Robin Williams now? How many times did they repeat the same basic joke and swipe in that segment? You could argue that it's intentional to make their point, but I think that's giving the frat boys way too much credit.

Bottom line, I thought it was a weak segment. It certainly doesn't help that I don't loathe Robin Williams as they and a lot of people seem to but even so, enough is enough. The point has been made. It's time to move on and make their own jokes, prove that they're actually better than the people they're ripping on, because the last five years of the show say otherwise.

I quite liked the first and third segments. A lot of obvious and tired jokes about British stereotypes in the first one, but they did make it work. The third segment was a good one to end on, being the strongest and most creative of the three. Stewie riding underneath the car was one of my favourite parts and they ended the episode on a really good joke with Lois' and Peter's sex represented by the lumberjacks in Stewie's dream. It reminded me of the "It's good to have land" squeaking rocking chair joke from the first revival episode, though I'd say this one was better. Overall, I'd say fairly good except for the second act which I just didn't enjoy.

The final episode though, "Internal Affairs"? Terrible, just terrible. Really, another chicken fight? I didn't much care for the first one and now we're up to the fourth. How fresh! Again, they shouldn't be knocking anyone else for being repetitive when they do stuff like this. If you liked it, fine, but for me it dragged on way too long, we've seen it all before and it just turned the entire first act into a snoozefest. For me there was no chance of the episode recovering after that, not a bad idea for a plot but it was an afterthought thanks to half the episode being taken up by filler. Not a fan of that one at all. Season ends with a thud for me.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby el badman on Fri May 25, 2012 2:12 pm

I liked the first segment too, but I also thought that the Robin Williams one was straight up annoying. It could have been passable if they hadn't already taken shots at him in the past, but this was just way too much. A couple of isolated good moments here and there, but it mostly came out as petty and repetitive, just like most of their celebrity swipes these days.
As far as the last one, I actually thought for a while the entire episode was going to be about the chicken fight...Even if it wasn't, 4-5 minutes for a fucking cutaway (it wasn't technically one I think, but it's hard not to consider this a cutaway) is just plain retarded. The rest of the episode was sort of okay, but it's hard to tell a decent story with only 15 remaining minutes...
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Fri May 25, 2012 8:10 pm

Yeah, the chicken fight took up most of the first segment, wasn't that interesting.

In the first episode of the night, they referenced that Family Guy was inspired by the Simpsons, then they go ahead and make 2 episodes with strong similarities to The Simpsons. Joe and Bonnie's "divorce" had a similar feel to Kirk and LuAnne's divorce. and the cloning in the fight was very similar to the Simpsons "Treehouse of Horror" episode with the hammock.

As for Robin Williams, every time he appears on Jay or Conan he is just going non-stop, not a fan of that type of work. Will have to agree that Point of Stewie was the best segment of the night.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby benji on Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:02 am

Premiere was pretty good. Hope last season wasn't a mirage.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:05 pm

Yeah, solid opening to the season. I don't recall Ross Fishman being that much of a jerk in his first appearance way back in the original run but it did work for the plot. You could see Peter's offhand admission that they ate his son coming a mile away but it was still funny, indeed quite a few decent jokes in that one. Hope the rest of the season turns out to be like that.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby benji on Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:42 pm

Note yet again, this was an episode with only one main story. There were little running gags and such (like Brian wanting to mark Everest), but only one plot.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:27 pm

It does seem to work out a lot better for them.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:40 am

A lot of cameos in this episode such as Mark Burnett, and Dick Wolf, but they brought the stupid cutaways back. The public radio one was stupid.

I like it when they don't cut away, but have a random character pop up out of nowhere, like Adam West. "That's for putting one tree in One Tree Hill."

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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby benji on Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:18 am

Was alright. One plot yet again!
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:45 am

Agreed, I'd say it was just OK. A few too many cutaways, not enough humour in them. I did enjoy Homer's cameo, voiced by Dan Castelleneta and all; some of the jabs between the two shows have gotten quite petty over the years, so it was nice to see one that was all in good fun and a bit self-deprecating at the same time. Story was OK, I was expecting way more mean-spirited knocks on other shows, so I was pleasantly surprised there. Again, just OK, but definitely watchable.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:10 pm

I wasn't aware it was actually him :lol:

Also, Michael Clarke Duncan was in the episode. I wonder what role he played. RIP
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:09 pm

Solid episode this week. The next episode really looks good though.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:54 pm

Yeah, not bad. Ordinary plot, typical rushed ending but it was reasonably funny, which for Family Guy these days is at least a passing grade.
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Postby ixcuincle on Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:28 am

Not sure if you noticed it, but they're having the time machine again next episode, and it's supposed to be an hour long episode if I heard correctly from the ad.

Time machine episodes are always great to watch.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:32 am

Eh, I enjoyed "Back to the Pilot" but I wasn't that fond of "Road to Germany".
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby ixcuincle on Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:01 pm

Time machine episode was pretty cool. Lot of references to prior episodes.

It's an hour-long FG block to celebrate the 200th ep, so the 2nd episode is more of a documentary with the writers about Family Guy. Kind of cool.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:38 pm

I groaned when I saw another chicken fight. To its credit it didn't go on too long and the fact it was in reverse at least made it a little different, but as someone who isn't a big fan of the original appearance, I'm well and truly fed up with that running gag.

I will say that Red Dwarf handled the "time running backwards" plot in a better and funnier way, way back in 1989, but it was a pretty good episode. Good meta humour, the concept did make for some funny moments and callbacks and aside from the chicken fight, there wasn't anything that I particularly disliked. Haven't watched the 200th episode special as yet.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:54 pm

Latest episode ("Joe's Revenge") was another average one in my book. There's nothing I particularly disliked about it and it was refreshing that they used Joe for more than a couple of uninspired wheelchair/disability related jokes, but quite a few jokes fell flat for me. Nothing painful, they were just "meh". Brian's jealousy of Quagmire's cat made for a couple of funny scenes though, some other good moments and all things considered the plot was OK. Adam West disguising himself as the table was probably the best joke of the episode, his stuff always seems to work.
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Re: Family Guy Thread (Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Conway Twitt

Postby Andrew on Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:56 pm

I quite liked the latest episode up until the end when they pulled out another Conway Twitty cutaway. It wasn't too long and it was mildly amusing to see Justin Bieber's haircut somewhat crudely placed on his head, but that wasn't enough to save what has become a very tired joke. The time they cut away to a full song just killed it for me; like the chicken fights, it needs to be retired. It left a bit a sour taste in my mouth after what was, for the most part, an entertaining episode.

Overall it was fairly good though, Peter's insulting and off-colour speech to Lois at her party was pretty funny, as was the kids' and Brian's reactions to Peter and Lois having sex in the basement ("I have better hearing, so I can hear suction and stuff") and the subplot with Stewie and the turtle was alright. For me it would've been far more enjoyable without Conway Twitty at the end there but that was really the only thing that bothered me this time around, so by current Family Guy standards that's better than average.
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