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Postby fer76 on Mon May 21, 2007 6:03 pm

Hello, I don't understand what you want to tell me. I put that post because I believed to understand that the SUM will upgrade 1.0, for that reason I am wanting the 1.1...
But it is made it will be because I understood bad the posts. My English is regular, although I believe that its Spanish will also be limited.
But there is SUM 1.1 it doesn't pass anything, the 1.0 with Andrew's rosters 1.08 it will be magnify sure.

A greeting and forgive the nuisances. :wink:
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Postby Pdub on Wed May 23, 2007 4:17 pm

Just some info for everybody. We want to put 512 jerseys into SUM 1.1. Problem is, the game is crashing when two are used at the same time, but not on every court. So I am going through the courts downsizing graphics. Everytime a graphic is double sized, it's size becomes 4 times as big, and when combined with many other higher resolution graphics, the game crashes. So I am lowering stadium resolutions trying to stay from the oncourt graphics, because those graphics are what we are usually looking at. We never see far stadium graphics up close, so sacrificing those isn't a big deal to us. Anything bigger than 1024 is getting downsized. This will take a while, as we have to go through every court (29 courts) and make sure it doesn't crash when using two 512 jerseys.

Thanks for your patience.
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Postby dizzle on Wed May 23, 2007 4:20 pm

alright...dont really care about the environment like ads,etc..i prefer the jerseys anyday..thanks for the hard work..cant wait for 1.1
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Postby jusay_mitch29 on Wed May 23, 2007 7:41 pm

so you meanby lowering the courts details its possible to make all the 2x jersey to work...
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Postby bukovski on Wed May 23, 2007 9:29 pm

Hello! how can i get the best possible gameplay ? which files of the SUM should i delete? and how can i recognize a SUM file?
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Postby bukovski on Wed May 23, 2007 9:36 pm

I dont care about shoes, tatoos, CFs and every other detail that may slow down the gameplay...

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Postby JaoSming on Wed May 23, 2007 9:51 pm

you really hate the bobcats dont you. 30 courts you gotta go through :wink:

jusay_mitch29, pretty much, if you play on default EA courts with 512 jerseys you shouldnt crash. You also wont crash if you use my total court update (at least I dont)

bukovski, gameplay wise the only file you need is the aiact. So if you want to get rid of everything else uninstall the game, clear out your sgsm folder, then reinstall and only install the main files and the aiact update for sum.
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Postby Zahiras on Wed May 23, 2007 11:23 pm

So when will be Supreme Mod v2? :?
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Postby JaoSming on Thu May 24, 2007 12:14 am

when it gets finished.
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Postby Foka on Thu May 24, 2007 6:00 am

Pls help! I installed this mod and i can only play individual practice and play now . If i try to start a dynasty or a playoff or anithing else the game crashes and it exit to the windows . :cry: whats the problem?
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Postby Pdub on Thu May 24, 2007 7:38 am

Did you install the SUM tattoo fix? If not, then that might fix the problem.
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Postby Foka on Thu May 24, 2007 3:54 pm

thanks i will try it
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Postby Foka on Thu May 24, 2007 4:44 pm

its worked thanks again
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Postby k-d on Sun May 27, 2007 6:40 am

I have a problem (I installed the SUM)
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Postby Pdub on Sun May 27, 2007 7:54 am

I must have accidentally erased it. Anyways, you seriously need help on how to shoot freethrows? To see when the ball is at it's highest point, hold the right analog stick down, until he is holding the ball above his head. Let go of the right analog and he will bring the ball back down. Pull the right analog stick back and as soon as the ball is at it's highest point, push forward. Try not to push left or right when you do this. If you are having serious trouble making freethrows, you can just press the shoot button or lower the free throw difficulty slider in gameplay settings.
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Postby k-d on Sun May 27, 2007 4:39 pm

Sir Pdub, it's not a problem. I shoot fts very very well 8-) . I was only asking why couldn't I see the screen. :roll:
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Postby chungyfied on Tue May 29, 2007 12:47 pm

First of all, great job on the mod.

I've come to realise that NBA Live 07 is pretty playable if you actually played the way the developers thought you would.

After I tried out the SUM mod, I thought the pace of the game changed significantly. Teams were more willing to push on the break, some more than others, and while nice to have, it gets over the top sometimes especially with highflyers. e.g. J.R Smith flying down the court to shoot (more like dunk) 80% for 20++ points.

As such, I find it difficult to actually play defense and I find it easier to win by running and gunning.

I find it difficult to cope with the unbelievable finishes they have on the breaks, and also sometimes the PG driving past me all the way.
(It also sucks that they dunk on me all the time on fast breaks but when i go for breaks and layup/dunk, i am forced into the adjusted shot animation even though the CPU players are clearly behind me and I miss the shot without foul called but i guess that is another story)

I did not have these changes until SUM and so I was wondering if you guys encountered the same things.

Though I do not call alot of plays, my playstyle is to bring the ball up, call many picks, pass in and out of the post to get a good shot. So i believe my play style is not a fast pace game.

If you guys have any tips for me at all, please try to help me out.

P.S, does Freestyle Effectiveness slider affect FSS moves too or just freestyle moves with right analog? And is it possible at all to stop CPU layups (to actually contest the shot and make them miss) when they are right under the basket?
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Postby storm74 on Wed May 30, 2007 2:44 am

is this playable for 06?
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Postby storm74 on Wed May 30, 2007 6:44 am

Man o Man, yall dun did it now, i cant belive the work that went into this, i just reinstalled my 07, cause my 06 was giving me probs, couldnt formulate it how i wanted to, then i seen this mod, I CAN NOT BELIEVE MY EYES!, EA WHO?, man yall did 1 helll of a job, and i just wanna say personaly THANK YOU.

a few of yall i know, some i dont, but the whole crew deserves a 5th a hennessy!!! gr8 job fellaz!

damn!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :wink:
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Postby Pdub on Wed May 30, 2007 7:16 am

Glad you like it. It's the hard work of alot of modders, very equivalent to what someone's nba live might look like after downloading patches since 07 was first released.

Don't forget the tattoo fix.
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Postby mattcole2006 on Wed May 30, 2007 7:18 am

pdub makes me laugh when people complain about stupid little problems with SUM cant begin to fink how much work you guys must put into! U deserve more credit than you get (Y) (Y)
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Postby storm74 on Wed May 30, 2007 9:21 am

hey let me ask a quick question here, ive been looking thru the sgsm folder, and i see for example allen iverson, for his files he has, alivers leg tat.fsh and alivers arm tat.fsh, but i dont see a alivers.fsh for the face, like it was for 06 and past. i'm also seeing these hair2 1 1 0hair.fsh,.

my question is i see for example utop, did a iverson, and it has alivers.fsh, if i was to place that file into my sgsm, would that some how mess up the sum mod? or is that how all cf's are being done for 07?

you have to forgive me, but im coming on the scene late this year, so im totaly out of the loop? any suggestions?
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Postby dizzle on Wed May 30, 2007 9:27 am

if you use utopia's fsh, it replaces the one included in sum, and if utopia didnt do any custom leg or arm tats then there could be a color differential between the face and arms/legs
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Postby Pdub on Wed May 30, 2007 10:30 am

We put the cyberfaces in their original viv file. That way we weren't overwriting any cyberfaces, or if anyone didn't like a certain cyberface, they could easily replace it by downloading one and putting it in the sgsm directory.
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Postby storm74 on Wed May 30, 2007 12:48 pm

ok, cool, so long as it actualy has a .fsh or ebo, or both, i can go head drop in sgsm and its all good?, well trial and error time, i know yall busy, ty for getitng back at me fellaz!

ty again, this mod, is crazy fun!
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Postby k-d on Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:41 am

Maybe release? :P
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Pdub, where do I find your sliders? I can't find them.. sorry..
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Postby Pdub on Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:06 am

My sliders are here - http://www.nbaliveforums.com/sutra769620.php#769620

I was hoping the finals would last a bit longer as I have been trying to finish up the update before they were over. Looks like that is not going to happen, but there should be a release in the next week or two.
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Postby ukrainik on Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:00 pm

Great Mod! I hope Ea developers see this cause you'd be hired in a heart beat!!

I love what you did with graphics but I was wondering if I can reverse a couple of things:
1) I kinda like the old school NBA icons so which files do I delete to from sgsm folder to reverse it to original?

2)I guess this relates to #1. In dynasty mode there is a glitch the team logoart shows as white blank strip when you go to power rankings. What files do I delete to reverse it to the original way?

3) In-game ESPN templates look awesome BUT the player portray doesn't show with statistic. I'm not sure if it is a glitch or if it was disigned like that but I prefer to see the player's face next to stats so Once again which files do I need to uninstall in order to reverse it to the EA in-game templates?


Thanks a bunch, and once again simply AWESOME MOD!!
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Postby Pdub on Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:30 pm

1 and 2 - Unless you don't want the ESPN score overlay anymore, this can't be done. EA used the team logos from the score overlay in more than one place, like the PDA, the power rankings, and the draft screens. The names of the score logos are "logos~score~**_s.big" with the *'s as a two letter team abbreviation. I put them in their original viv file which is in the "FE" directory instead of the sgsm, so you would have to replace the logos.viv file with the original file from your NBA Live dvd. The score overlay itself is the overlays~score.big file

3. That's how ESPN does it, so I took it off. I planned on using the portraits, but Ijust couldn't find a custom design that I liked so I made it realistic. To go back to EA's crap stat overlays, which don't even show up all the time, delete these files-

overlays~plyrstat.big
overlays~stat.big
overlays~statbg.big
overlays~freethrow.big
overlays~viol.big
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Postby ukrainik on Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:45 am

Sorry man I didn't mean to be insulting. :( I love you patch. I just played it back to back with the original version and the original looks like a poorly done old SNES knock off in comparison. As I said EA should really look into hiring you guys cause you really refined the game. Please don't get pissed it's just as you know every gamer needs to tweak the game untill its just "perfect" :)

Some follow ups:
1, 2 Do you know about the dynasty glitch that I'm referring to or did I just installed it incorrectly?
*the glitch is that in dynasty mode when I go to power rankings the team art is blank white strips.

3. what did you mean when you said: you "couldn't find a custom design that I liked"? Are you refering to the actual template or to portraits of players? If the later is the case is there a way to still use your template but with player ports?

Once again don't get pissed I love your mod and really apreciate all the work that you personally and all the other guys put into this mod and if you have any projects for the future I would love to participate (I have access to a sweet comp with bunch of graphic design programs that I can use as part of my school projects) (Y)
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Postby Pdub on Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:05 am

I'm not pissed, I was just pointing out some things about EA's overlay.

I'm not sure about the glitch. I thought you were referring to the logos that have white on the right side because that is part of the logo where the score would be since those logos are used with the score overlay and the score overlay has limitations on what you can do with it's graphics, which is why I had to make that white part in in the team logos.

Well, I was going to use the portraits with the stats, but I just didn't like how it turned out with the portraits, so I decided to make it more realistic and not display them.

You can look at the Overlay Creation Guide and try editing the file to bring back the portraits, but I warn you that hex editing and then testing it in-game is tedious.
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Postby ukrainik on Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:25 am

Pdub wrote:I'm not pissed, I was just pointing out some things about EA's overlay.
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Pdub wrote:I'm not sure about the glitch. I thought you were referring to the logos that have white on the right side because that is part of the logo where the score would be since those logos are used with the score overlay and the score overlay has limitations on what you can do with it's graphics, which is why I had to make that white part in in the team logos.


I just reinstalled the game and your patch to make sure it wasn't me who screwed up some folder address. What happens is i9n Dynasty mode at the Power Ranking screen the team logos next to abriviations do not show. I was just wondering if it was the intent.
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Postby ukrainik on Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:29 am

Almost forgot one another question: when you put portraits into viv did you just replace the original or did you add your new ones? If its the later how did you do it cause when I tried my game didn't show anybody's picture.
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Postby Pdub on Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:09 am

Well, I just used Joker's portrait.viv file. I didn't add any to it. I believe he added new ones.

You may have not compressed the BIG file. The safest way for me is to use eazip to compress the file, and then import it with EAGraph. bigGUI gives me problems sometimes when I try to compress a file that is inside of the archive.

Eazip is a commandline program. You need to have it in the directory you want to use it in. You can get it from the download section. You need to open a dos prompt and go to the directory where the VIV and BIG file are located and enter -

eazip -c nameofportrait.big

Then you can just add it to the viv file using EAGraph's import wizard.
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Postby Integra on Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:58 am

Hey Pdub, great work on the mod but if I want to play an All Star game the game suddenly crashes to the desktop? It doesn't happen if I play the original game only after installing the SUM MOD.

Can u help me?
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Postby Pdub on Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:02 am

Download and install the tattoo fix. The mod doesn't change anything in the all star game, excpet anyplayer graphics, and the first release was full of buggy tattoo files.
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Postby mattcole2006 on Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:48 pm

pdub any ideas wen sum 1.1 will be realesed nba live 08 will be out soon?
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Postby Lean on Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:24 pm

NBA Live 08 will be out by October. Patience, pal. (Y)
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Postby Integra on Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:53 am

Pdub wrote:Download and install the tattoo fix. The mod doesn't change anything in the all star game, excpet anyplayer graphics, and the first release was full of buggy tattoo files.


Installed tattoo fix and everything is working fine! thx
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Postby Retrolock on Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:59 am

I just had to login for the first time in many months to post here my gratitude to you guys in making this mod! Oh wow the graphics for me were about a 150% improvement!! Even in my widescreen lcd (1024x768 max because of EA's incompetence) I am stunned!

:) grats again and if you can make a widescreen mode hehehe that'd be great!!! more power!
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Postby Messermaus on Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:42 am

I'm not happy with the press camera from this patch.. Where or how do I get the original one?
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Postby Pdub on Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:43 am

It's on your dvd inside one of the compressed.zip files. It's in the merlin directory, the filename is nbacam.mgd. There are also several different camera patches in the 07 download section.
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Postby lol on Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:06 pm

are you guys still going to release another version? or was it aborted?
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Postby ukrainik on Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:57 am

The unlockable tottoos (spider, basket on fire etc ) do not show on players' arms in the player edit screen! How do I fix that?
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Postby Pdub on Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:03 am

That's an issue with the 2x armbands and tattoo's. Because the accessories file could not be edited,we could not add those tattoos. Sorry.

I am still thinking about whether or not to release the second version SUM. I have to fix all the courts so they don't crash when they are used with 512 jerseys which is tedious and boring. I have fixed close to half of them, and I am thinking that we could just use JaoSming's total court update for the rest.
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Postby Silas on Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:24 am

I hope you do release another SUM update, it'd be great to be able to play with it along with Andrew's Draftee roster he'll release.
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Postby Zahiras on Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:54 pm

I have 1 problem with this mode... I can't use unlocked shoes :(

P.S. waiting v2.... :roll:
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Postby ArnauIguodala on Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:07 am

I don't know if I'm the one that's wrong but when I'm looking for the link to get the SUM Update, I don't find any. I only see the individual work on the first post. Can somebody help me out please. Thank you.
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Postby Pdub on Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:24 am

http://sum.nba-live.com - Official site of the SUM mod.

http://www.nba-live.com/download/pafile ... le&id=1349 - SUM 1.0 - The installer allows you to choose what you want and don't want installed. For instance, if you are happy with the current press camera, uncheck the camera option, or yours will be overwritten. If you play online, or don't want any changes to the way the cpu plays their offense, uncheck the AIACT/Artificial Intelligence box.

http://www.nba-live.com/download/pafile ... le&id=1350 - SUM Tattoo fix. You must apply the tattoo fix after installing or your game will crash on certain players.
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Postby ArnauIguodala on Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:24 am

Merci Beaucoup! It is really good work.
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