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Postby chrisinfinity on Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:56 pm

they should left us hire coaches dont u think? head coaches
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Postby Metsis on Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:36 pm

I think they will... I would be surprised if the head coach market wasn't involved in this years game and on the other hand, with the emphasis on dynasty this year, I would not be surprised if this was still left out.

But I think this will be one of the features of the game... There are so many effects a coach could have... People skills, playing style, personal coaching, late game situations etc. etc.
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Postby beau_boy04 on Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:16 pm

I know they should let us hire/fire head coaches... i mean don't we see this shit year in and year out in the real Nba ? however, they have not mentioned anything about this feature but the assistant coach you sent to find out out rumors running around is crap... head coaches are more important. shit even when i first started playing Madden in 2004 i think they had head coaches hiring/firing... :D
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Postby Metsis on Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:15 pm

But the head coach was probably the position the player was supposed to fill in the early Franchise goings... That and the GM slot. Those are the options that have been available to the player throughout the Franchise/Dynasty mode.

Now that the role of GM has been established, we should get this option. And the coach should have an effect on the team... Without some ratings for coaches, the whole hiring/firing thing is pretty useless.

It does not work out, if you have an offensively oriented coach and a team full of defensive specialists... You want to get that defensive coach to coach the defensive players.

I see this matter solely dependent on the coaches effect on the game. If the coaches still don't have any ratings or effect on how the team plays, we probably won't be able to fire them and hire them, but if they do have some stats that effect the game, well that is a whole different story.
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Postby The X on Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:03 pm

yeah, I agree....in nba2k6, after a dismal opening season, I let Byron Scott & his 1 year, $3.33mill remaining on his contract & signed Rasheed Mark :P

will be interesting to see if it's in there....it's only a small thing, but would be nice....looking forward to seeing how the 360 dynasty mode looks like :P
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Postby chrisinfinity on Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:51 am

aha i might hire larry brown
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Postby Buckley on Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:51 am

Metsis wrote:It does not work out, if you have an offensively oriented coach and a team full of defensive specialists... You want to get that defensive coach to coach the defensive players.


*cough*Flip Saunders*cough*

The ability to hire/fire coaches would be a good idea. They should also allow the assistant coach to be "interim" coach for a game of maybe a portion of the season while you search for a coach to replace him. This would be of course during the season.

During the offseason, you should be able to negotiate about extensions, and coaches should retire...etc. In a 25-season dynasty, you shouldnt have the same coach for the same team. Other then Jerry Sloan, what coach has been with there team for more then 10 seasons?
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Postby chrisinfinity on Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:22 am

cwebbiverson wrote:
Metsis wrote:It does not work out, if you have an offensively oriented coach and a team full of defensive specialists... You want to get that defensive coach to coach the defensive players.


*cough*Flip Saunders*cough*

The ability to hire/fire coaches would be a good idea. They should also allow the assistant coach to be "interim" coach for a game of maybe a portion of the season while you search for a coach to replace him. This would be of course during the season.

During the offseason, you should be able to negotiate about extensions, and coaches should retire...etc. In a 25-season dynasty, you shouldnt have the same coach for the same team. Other then Jerry Sloan, what coach has been with there team for more then 10 seasons?




aha flip em yeah it would be cool if we can have tenical fouls to boost up the team and phil jackson gets injected and stuff
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Postby The Other Kevin on Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:24 am

chrisinfinity wrote:phil jackson gets injected and stuff



Steriod time, bitches!



This is a good idea, probably won't be in Live for another year though.
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Postby Andrew on Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:26 am

Technicals cannot be included because the NBA prohibits EA Sports and other developers from doing so, aside from technicals assessed when you call a timeout when you've already exhausted them all or the rare situation where there are no subs available and one of the five remaining players picks up his sixth foul (resulting in a personal foul, team foul and technical foul).

I'd like to see the ability to hire and fire coaches in the game, I'd say most longtime fans would feel the same way.
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Postby The Hitman on Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:55 pm

Yup. You have to have that option if your the GM of your team. the coach has to influence your teams chemistry and happiness. They should have ratings like in Madden for defence, offense, teacher, motivation.. etc. But also, you should be able to hire other teams coaches, so that if I'm the Raptors, I can hire Phil Jackson from the Lakers or take an assistant coach like Kevin O'Neil and make him my new head coach.
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Postby nets4life on Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:49 pm

hire and firing coaches isn't a biggie, although it would be a nice feature. Im guessing it wont be in 07
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Postby 3P on Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:44 pm

if they have the feature they should have the real assistant coaches and scouts, and you dont need to hire any
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Postby Metsis on Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:37 pm

If the coaches don't have any ratings, then the hire/fire feature is completely useless and cosmetic... And it's not what I would like to see. Cosmetic changes aren't any good.

Offense, defense, motivation, teacher ratings would be nice to have for coaches. We could even have "pseudo" coaches, so that real coaches wouldn't get offended. Its pretty tough to rate some of the guys in real life... History does the talking, so guys like Larry Brown, Greg Popovich etc. should have high ratings on some of the categories.

This would complete the managerial side of Dynasty mode...
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Postby The X on Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:16 pm

2k6 rates the real life coaches....if games can rate players, why not coaches?!? I'm sure some players don't like the ratings they receive, but they can't do anything about it unless they become an EA coverboy or talent, then their ratings get a boost up....

in my Hornets dynasty, after one season I fired Byron Scott (Good Offense, Good Defense & Good Teacher), who had 1 year at $3.33M left on his deal, & hired some genome bald black guy called Rasheed Mark (Master Offense, Master Defense & either Good or Master Teacher) for a deal at about $2.33M per year....Scott had to take the brunt of the blame for the team's dismal 2nd worst record in the league :lol:

but back to the point, yep, hopefully it's integrated....but only after MLE, trading future draft picks, big time NBA Draft & off-season upgrade....
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Postby J@3 on Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:27 pm

I'd love for one of these games to take the Draft part of the game and turn it into this huge spectacle, almost a separate game within the game. They focused so much attention on the all-star weekend and it came out pretty well, if they put anything like the same focus into the draft it would be amazing. Hopefully one day they will have the kind of draft you can sit for an hour or two with and not be bored.
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Postby Cloudy on Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:44 pm

If not mistaken, I remember seeing either a video or screenshot of the 360 Live 07. At the bottom there's the ESPN ticker that says something like... "(Real coach's name) is signed blablabla" Not sure though, but that may be a little hint that we're able to sign or fire "real" coaches...

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Postby The X on Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:46 pm

Cloudy wrote:If not mistaken, I remember seeing either a video or screenshot of the 360 Live 07. At the bottom there's the ESPN ticker that says something like... "(Real coach's name) is signed blablabla" Not sure though, but that may be a little hint that we're able to sign or fire "real" coaches...

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I think that might be a real life ESPN ticker update, not a Live-related coach change....not sure though....
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Postby Cloudy on Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:52 pm

Haha! Exactly when I was thinking right after I hit the Submit button... Oh well, let's hope it's in the game... :lol:
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Postby Melo_Poland on Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:02 pm

where is that video??
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Postby cbow54 on Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:59 pm

its on the ign website i believe
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Postby Melo_Poland on Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:22 am

i can't find it
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Postby chrisinfinity on Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:47 am

i wanna see the video
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Postby The Hitman on Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:04 am

The X wrote:2k6 rates the real life coaches....if games can rate players, why not coaches?!? I'm sure some players don't like the ratings they receive, but they can't do anything about it unless they become an EA coverboy or talent, then their ratings get a boost up....

in my Hornets dynasty, after one season I fired Byron Scott (Good Offense, Good Defense & Good Teacher), who had 1 year at $3.33M left on his deal, & hired some genome bald black guy called Rasheed Mark (Master Offense, Master Defense & either Good or Master Teacher) for a deal at about $2.33M per year....Scott had to take the brunt of the blame for the team's dismal 2nd worst record in the league :lol:

but back to the point, yep, hopefully it's integrated....but only after MLE, trading future draft picks, big time NBA Draft & off-season upgrade....

Your right. They have to ugrade other things way before they upgrade something like hiring and firing coaches. But at the same time, it would be cool to fire a coach because your team stunk up the place all year, someone has to take the blame. But it would be nice to hire real coaches instead of fake ones like in 2K6.
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Postby Zandro Marcelionis on Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:51 pm

The best thing that they can do for Coaches are to have them 'The impact' to the game like for example coaches like Phil Jackson has a unique play (triangle offense) that Miami's Pat Riley or Dallas' Avery Johnson dont have so that youll be able to have accurate and realistic strategic plays for every team..
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