Response from EA about the NBA Live 07 bugs.

The "regardless of whether or not these issues can be addressed in this year's product" makes me a bit worried, as they basically make the game unplayable (realistically)... but let's stay optimistic. Getting negative won't get us anywhere.

I can see it already...

NBA live 08, ALL NEW substitution feature, for both user and CPU teams!

After reading all the stuff about how the gameplay was 'much improved' and 'all the bugs have been fixed' and Andrew's really positive report, I really knew that it really couldn't be true with EA. With EA's NBA Live, you can never count on it. Then, because of this, I save the $40 U.S. to see if my fellow forumers like the game. Then I find out that everything I read about that is positive is just the opposite, negative. There are pleads for patches, etc, and I am really happy that I saved my money on this game which looks to be a joke and an exact copy of NBA Live 06 with some new Dynasty flawed features and new menus.

After reading all the stuff about how the gameplay was 'much improved' and 'all the bugs have been fixed' and Andrew's really positive report, I really knew that it really couldn't be true with EA. With EA's NBA Live, you can never count on it. Then, because of this, I save the $40 U.S. to see if my fellow forumers like the game. Then I find out that everything I read about that is positive is just the opposite, negative. There are pleads for patches, etc, and I am really happy that I saved my money on this game which looks to be a joke and an exact copy of NBA Live 06 with some new Dynasty flawed features and new menus.

The game may be many things, and have some serious bugs, but one thing it absolutely is not is a copy of NBA Live 06. They aren't even on the same page, nor do they even play reasonably alike.

I'm definitely glad people are starting to be more outspoken rather than blindly follow a crappy product.

Regardless of whether or not these issues can be addressed in this year's product, it's helpful feedback as we begin work on next year's game.

That is just disgusting. That part was so irritating simply because it wasn't something that they could improve on, but the fact they overlooked something so obvious - an integral part of the gameplay that was blatantly missing. Arrgh.

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EA was evidentally a..... wait, hold on


WARNING: THIS IS WHEN DONATELLO STOPS BEING THE GENTLE, POLITE, IN-BETWEEN MAN

EA was evidentally a bit upset that I posted the direct quote from the email I recieved, even though I did edit out the names, and my questions were on behalf of the community, not myself. So I have removed the full quote of the (Second) email from my post, but I will not be editing all of your posts quoting it.

If another mod sees fit to remove all the quotes, that is their right.... but I am honestly a bit pissed off that I have been asked to remove it.

They probably just realize that it made them look like complete asses and they're trying to pull some damage control. I am not pleased. I just dropped 45 bucks on a buggy piece of garbage and all I've gotten in return is what seems to be a pushover "smokescreen" cookie-cutter customer service response.

I hope I'm wrong and they get this fixed.

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For me there is no "next years game".

The "regardless of whether or not these issues can be addressed in this year's product" makes me a bit worried, as they basically make the game unplayable (realistically)... but let's stay optimistic. Getting negative won't get us anywhere.

I can see it already...

NBA live 08, ALL NEW substitution feature, for both user and CPU teams!

lol aiuheiaue

EA was evidentally a bit upset that I posted the direct quote from the email I recieved, even though I did edit out the names, and my questions were on behalf of the community, not myself. So I have removed the full quote of the (Second) email from my post, but I will not be editing all of your posts quoting it.

They probably just realize that it made them look like complete asses and they're trying to pull some damage control. I am not pleased. I just dropped 45 bucks on a buggy piece of garbage and all I've gotten in return is what seems to be a pushover "smokescreen" cookie-cutter customer service response.

Glad you're sticking it up to the authority's face I'm glad you didn't remove the whole thing, but I'd leave the whole thing up. There's no reason why you should remove an e-mail that speaks to the community as a whole. We're fricking customers, we pay for their product, and if they're going behind our backs to have a more-profit mentality and keep us blind loyal followers. No way.

I'm not going to be happy when this authority can do whatever they want while the rest of us are stuck with a virtually unplayable game. If they're going to at least give us a patch and appreciate this community rather than take advantage of us, then that's a good first step, but if they're going to shit on us since Live 2001, then we have the power to do what they don't expect us to do: not buy the game. Simple as that.

I feel like watching V for Vendetta.

Edit: Well, now seeing that the quote is now gone, paraphrasing it is not the same anymore I'd put the quote back up as benji suggested. They're not going to do anything to you, and if anything, it's going to help this community. It's time to be Angry Donatello, not Passive Donatello

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Donatello: perhaps it would be better if you hadn't edit/censore everything EA instructs you to (unless if they can sue us). Like we all saw, EA doesn't exactly care what they release or if their buyers are even remotely satisfied. That will hurt them in future. Considering Live 07 is experiencing the same backlash over at the official EA forums, the influence of both sites combined and other sources of disgust towards EA and their game will surely impact the sales of both this year's version and others yet to come.

I said this many times before and I will continue preaching the same thing: don't buy this game unless a patch is released. And if it isn't, you know where you're at. Then you'll be better off if you just bought a console (PS2 is cheap nowadays) and 2k7.

Edit: just saw Donatello's latest post .

I said this many times before and I will continue preaching the same thing: don't buy this game unless a patch is released.

That's what I was planning on doing. Good advice . Stick it to the man Donatello.

Really, what has EA done for NLSC? Year after year, Andrew and the rest of the people on this forum cleans up all the mistakes that EA makes, and NLSC don't even get recoganition? Sure they brought Andrew to Canada and allowed him to test, but that's only because they wanted to sell more. Have they really thanked this community?

They really don't have the right to tell NLSC what to do anymore. They are all happy when the roster patches are released by the people here, but when we point them with mistakes, they are not happy? I SAY FUCK THEM.

If they don't release a patch, i'm seriously done with this game. And perhaps we should start a petition asking 2K sports to release 2k8 on PC next year.

EA has big balls to release this shit. This game really puts their name to shame. I cant believe they would do this to us, and then go out and say maybe they can fix this for future games! Hey, this should have never been a problem with this game. EA needs to own up to their mistakes and release a patch fast. Dont even start working on next years game till you fix the shit thats wrong with this years game. Because if they leave us high and dry, and never release a patch...i can see a massive group of people heading towards NBA 2k sports way.

And perhaps we should start a petition asking 2K sports to release 2k8 on PC next year.

I 2nd that!

Oh boy this turned Dontello to 180 degrees! EA seems to be paying attention to this forum, but they should try to also look at the wishlist and other bug fixes and problems we post!

And perhaps we should start a petition asking 2K sports to release 2k8 on PC next year.

I 2nd that!

It's a superb idea. I'll create a thread in the Other Games forum.

Here's another one: how about Donatello sent all of the EA's emails and the whole story to the all of the major game reviewing sites (IGN, Gamespot) and magazines? Not everyone will run it, but some will and I think that could create enough backlash for someone to get fired and get things moving.

...an exact copy of NBA Live 06...

It's alot more than that really.

And perhaps we should start a petition asking 2K sports to release 2k8 on PC next year.

Didnt someone allready try that a few days ago? I would be all for it because I dont want to buy a 360 to play the game and not be able to mod it/download roster updates.

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Here's another one: how about Donatello sent all of the EA's emails and the whole story to the all of the major game reviewing sites (IGN, Gamespot) and magazines? Not everyone will run it, but some will and I think that could create enough backlash for someone to get fired and get things moving.

I second that! On a side note, I still have the guy's name, phone number, and e-mail address

I say post the e-mail, what'll they do pull their support of the community or the NLSC?

They knew the game was shitty, that's why they didn't send out review copies to the big sites.

Sure it's got new dynasty features, but the core of the game, the engine is basically Live 06.1, the lighting was tweaked and there were slight gameplay edits, but the bulk of the game plays exactly like Live 06. The only reason it feels different "out of the box" is that EA tweaked sliders a bit more before release.

As I pointed out, the players have many of the same ratings they did last year, the team records were not updated so an exhibition game displays their 2004-05 records.

EA failed and everyone knows it including themselves. They've shifted to "next gen" and probably left a skeleton staff on the last gen that can't keep up. They can't fix the existing errors in the engine so they tried to paper over them with new features. But they wound up breaking the game this time and the community is finally calling them on their failure to deliver.

EDIT: If Donatello so wishes, I'm willing to publish the e-mails on nbalive.org's main page, if one does not wish to "endanger" the NLSC.

For the last time is different from 06 gameplay is way better. There is just a few problems from keeping this from being the best nba live ever and blowing 2K7 out of the water.

Im curious to know if I am able to return games to EB Games once its opened out of the package? Id rather go back to my Live 05, I got many hours of fun out of that game...

Please read the story of the Emperor's New Clothes.

This guy from EA called you, you got his email address, and his first reaction was to tell you to remove a post containing his email address. That isn't being helpful or apologetic for problems, it's being demanding and controlling.

Step one of fixing the problems is to listen to the problems, and then to fix them. Step one of helping isn't "hey, remove my email from posts on a message board."

The PC version of the game is bereft of new features such as signature shots. EA just sent me an email about the new game, and in it "signature shots" and "signature jumps" were featured without mention that the PC version doesn't have them.

"I understand your problems, and I really want to help, but first, remove your post with my email address." Hey, first fix the game. PC gamers have already spent their hard earned money on NBA Live 07, and now have to wait to find out if EA will fix serious bugs that never should have made it out of testing, and then if the bugs will be fixed those same PC gamers will have to wait for the patches to be complete. If EA fixes the bugs, then PC owners have essentially pre-paid for a watered down version of NBA Live 07 that may be out some time next year.

Nobody at EA is doing people a favor by fixing basic gameplay issues. At best they're avoiding mass returns. By asking you to remove the email address this person is saying he/she really isn't willing to take responsibility to the gaming public, to the people who support EA with their dollars. Nobody is taking responsibility for an unreasonable situation of releasing a game with basic, obvious in the first five minutes of play bugs and with features that were advertised, and bragged about in press interviews, absent from the PC version.

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And perhaps we should start a petition asking 2K sports to release 2k8 on PC next year.

I 2nd that!

It's a superb idea. I'll create a thread in the Other Games forum.

Here's another one: how about Donatello sent all of the EA's emails and the whole story to the all of the major game reviewing sites (IGN, Gamespot) and magazines? Not everyone will run it, but some will and I think that could create enough backlash for someone to get fired and get things moving.

Lets not try to get people fired and put their career at risk, lets just hope they learn from it.

we just want them to release a simple patch, if they can bum around for a year and create a game this crap, surely they can sit down for a week or two and fix it

so disappointed with ea.......releasing this crap.........

I personally don't have any interest in trying to get anyone fired.

I do want to state for the record that in my 'negative' post up there, I am by no means speaking on behalf of anyone but MYSELF. Not for the moderation team, not for the NLSC community, just speaking for myself.

I am not going to send any more Emails to EA unless they send me another one first. And if I do reply, it will be in the same professional manner I introduced myself in, because I will be representing the rest of this site whether I want to or not.


I am not reposting the quote out of respect for Andrew, since it could (probably would) reflect badly on him since he's the webmaster.


Lastly, I'd truly like to ask that this doesn't turn into a total "Bash EA fest". I'm sure it will, I just want to note that it was never my intention.

It's sad just to think of what this game could of been. It's bugs are bad but not as bad as people are making them out to be. It is truly one of if not the best nba live game ever.