This is improved offense?

I don't really want to speculate on that in case my words get twisted and a "But Andrew said..." situation arises, but I'd like to think if we can petition a patch early in the piece we might get a fix for some of these issues.

Thats sounds good to me mate.

Ive been up, down, cold, hot...based on what ive been reading.

But if we could get a patch together to rectify this sub bug, and im pretty sure primacy could take care of the the PG scoring machine bug...then id still buy this game. But at the moment, i think the best thing to do is wait and see if these major flaws can be fixed.

Im definately up for the petition though, just tell me where to sign

Oh yeah, i was going to ask this in another thread but i might as well do it here:

Does Tim still work for EA? As a genuine Live fan, i wonder what his thoughts are on this years PC version? And i wonder how such major faults get past an oldschool fan like Tim?