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Postby Air Zoom Kobe I on Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:24 pm

Kobe Should Be a Superstar Shooter because he had 190 out of 510 3 pointers
And there were some teams that he had made no-look passes on, Like Utah, Washington, Phoenix, Houston, Clippers, San Antonio, Seattle, and Portland.


O yeah btw and New York's Freestyle Superstar Players should be Interesting.

Francis SHOULd have Playmaker(Star), Inside and Outside Scorer, and HIGHFLYER

Marbury should have Outside Scorer(Superstar), Inside Scorer, Playmaker(Superstar), and Shooter(Star)

Q-Rich Should Have Shooter and Outside Scorer(Star)

J-Rose Should Be X-Factor

I dunno about the rest
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Postby Voxel on Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:01 pm

guards like kobe, francis, marbury are not supposed to be inside scorer superstars at any level.... outside scorers already have their fancy layups and moves to finish in the paint. there is no need for them to have post moves or hook shots.
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Postby Air Zoom Kobe I on Sun Sep 17, 2006 4:31 pm

Francis Had inside scorer last year So did Marbury and KB8 and thats why I'm saying that.

Kobe has some post moves. Everyone is so sold on the fadeaway that they dont know he drives in the post.

O yea and would this sound right for Jordan in case a Classic Roster is done?

Superstar:Outside Scorer, Playmaker, Inside Scorer, Outside Stopper, Highflyer

Star: Shooter
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Postby soilworker on Sun Sep 17, 2006 6:52 pm

playmaking is not doing behind the back passes and stuff!

also keep in mind the term superstar when u call players like that, can u compare peja with ray allen or micheal redd as a shooter in the last 2 years? no (fred hoiberg had the league's highest 3pt fg before he retired but do u call him a freestyle superstar? )

even if u do then u must give josh smith superstar highflyer ability (which he will 100% have in the game actually) but do u call josh smith a real superstar? i think not
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Postby POLISH_BOY on Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:00 am

Can one player be X-factor as shooter and star as scorer ??
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Postby --- on Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:29 am

I think XFactors only gain star abilities when they play well, so no
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Postby [C][B]#4 on Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:58 am

soilworker wrote:playmaking is not doing behind the back passes and stuff!

also keep in mind the term superstar when u call players like that, can u compare peja with ray allen or micheal redd as a shooter in the last 2 years? no (fred hoiberg had the league's highest 3pt fg before he retired but do u call him a freestyle superstar? )

even if u do then u must give josh smith superstar highflyer ability (which he will 100% have in the game actually) but do u call josh smith a real superstar? i think not


The term playmaking in the NBA world is not just about doing behind the back passes etc. Yes I agree with you there, but in the NBA Live world, when a player is given Playmaker FSS abilities, he is able to do some fancy passing. He is be able to create plays, but Kobe's not a FSS Playmaker in my opinion, but maybe I just haven't watched enough Lakers games. I'm not doubting his ability to create plays for himself and his teammates, but I'm just not sure about giving him abilities to pass the ball like a Luke Ridnour.

Also, in terms of shooting, why can't I compare Peja with Ray Allen and Michael Redd? These guys all have sweet strokes from beyond the arc. Scoring the basketball is what seperates them apart. I would give all of them Superstar Shooters, but for Ray Allen and Michael Redd, I would also give them Star Outside Scorer abilities. Peja's still has a deadly shot from outside as he proved with the Pacers the second half of the season, so yes, in terms of shooting the basketball from beyond the arc, I can compare them. Also, if Kyle Korver is a FSS Shooter, I don't see why Fred Hoiberg wouldn't be if he was still in the NBA today.
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Postby soilworker on Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:45 am

on second thought i think you're right about the shooter thing, i just don't want non-superstars to be called as superstars but shooting and dunking are 2 abilities that can not measure a player's worth, i think the hardest superstar ability to acquire should be scorer and should be given to only real superstar scorers but yeah you can't deny nate robinson's flying ability as well as peja's accurate shooting
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Postby Andrew on Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:16 am

POLISH_BOY wrote:Can one player be X-factor as shooter and star as scorer ??


No. X-Factor is not another category of FSS, it's a player who doesn't have FSS abilities but can gain them for a short period of time in the clutch if they've been kept in the offense throughout the game.
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Postby Air Zoom Kobe I on Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:17 pm

That Should be Interesting.

There is one for every team, right?

I wonder how it's done for All-Star Teams
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Postby Andrew on Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:04 pm

I was originally under the impression it was one per team but it seems that more than one player can qualify. I'd say it's one per team per game though; multiple players might be eligible but only one can be the X-Factor (or potential X-Factor) per game. I'm not sure though.

I assume All-Star teams won't have X-Factors since most players would have at least Star FSS moves and X-Factors don't have any FSS moves by default.
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