How will NBA Live 07 pwn NBA 2k7

I suggest you don't post for a week until you learn to speak english or you're banned.

I suggest you don't post for a week until you learn to speak english or you're banned.

And I will be right back under another name bann me. LOL

I bet you won't. Considering your ip is banned. LOL

I bet you won't. Considering your ip is banned. LOL

How you know I already dont have another ip? LOL

lol, i came in here ready to comment on the 2 games and instead i find some jerk off trying to act like he is cool shit, this is great.

@ M Harlan: Because your an idiot. Dah.

@ Sauru, He's cool shit. That shit that's not fresh, the kind that's been in the toilet for 2 hours.

Anyway, back on topic, I noticed in the hyping of both games how vulnerable Live leaves themselves. What they do is put out some of there brand new features waaay too early, and let everyone get hyped over it. 2k sees this and adds something to their game to match it. Last year it aws the FSS and ability to choose what dunk/layup you wanted to do just by holding L1+a face button. 2k Sports saw this and a few weeks later come to press about a "shotstick" where the user can choose which kind of shot they want to take, left or right handed layup, and which kind of dunks they want to do.

IsoMotion was a (really bad)rip off of freestyle control.

What EA needs to do is keep their mouths shut on big things in their game. What 2k has done to get us hyped is release movies and screens. EA has not done anything except 1 or 2 veeery early movies and a couple screens. But notice how 2k sports has not let us in on really any of the new features other than signature jumpshots and little details like Nash licking his fingers. No gameplay secrets at all.

So I think an area that EA could try to get the upperhand in is cutscenes and minor animations that add to the realism of the game. Looseball saves would be nice.

Players getting off the bench and going to the scorers table
Players shaking hands before tipoff
A Closer look at shoot around before the game starts
Definately more falling down. Players fall down all the time in the NBA.
The crowd oohing and aweing at crossovers(like in NBA Inside drive).
Players wiping the sweat off of their forheads
Players adjusting their bands
Maybe players limping when they are playing with an injury
Players maybe slamming the ball down when called for a charge or looking in disbelief

That's just off of the top of my head.

EA has done better than 2k and should continue doing it

Well basically EA is more fun in the way of "OMG did you see
what he just did" And that builds hype and more intrest
and even though the code that makes the Com catch up
and challenges you alot, i think thats a good thing becuz
if you going to play a game and have a schedule saying
"Who should I Pwn today" then thats no fun. And this happens
to Espn, I own Espn nba 2k5 and it was fun as in simulation
terms but as soon as i won the first 3 games I was like
this isn't fun at all. **Shut Down**

What EA has the ability to do better than 2k

They have the ability to make unbeilievable fantastic things happen
like it stunted me with the freestyle control but then the next series
the freestyle superstar...whats next? And EA's ratings are way
realistic then EPSN becuz Espn's stats go from 50-100 EA goes
from 1-100 and thats realistic, becuz its besically saying
that since Yao Ming has a 50 rating for threes he can still make
a shot...And oh EA's presentation as in layout and screen
looks its brilliant.

What 2k is better, that EA should think about doing

Well those super cool pre game presentations it
just makes it more interestin when the spokeman talks
about a player and the stuff he's actually good in,
They should bring back the create a team mode
becuz ESPN's create a team is hot but only with like 10 teams,
And Espn's Nfl has halftime shows, even though the halftime
shows one the espn nfl isnt the same as the nba version
its still nice for the spokesman to say "number one is pheonominal
from the line, he a big key to the teams offense because he's shooting
56 percent from the entire feild". Just my 2 cents.

But most of you guys never played the 2k series in between and I did but IMO it just wasn't good enough. I remember renting 2k4 for PS2 and hit had really good graphics but there were bugs and stuff I hated.

It's not like that makes a difference today though. No matter what their history, 2k6 is definetly the better game.

And TBD, it might suprise you to know that i also owned nba 2k4. And 2k5. And 2k6. Along with all of EA's releases. So my opinions are coming from someone who has seen the growth of both companies' games. And most years i don't know why i bothered with EA. But, they had their game on PC. So yay for them.

There's a difference between 2k Sports and EA Sports. 2k is like a Dwyane Wade, and EA is like a Carmelo Anthony. Both Melo and Wade had equal talent when their campaigns were launched from the draft to the NBA. Most will tell you that Melo was even better. Though, Melo's fine history had himself a large fan-base, and his initial hype was huge. So much so, that Wade was often overshadowed and very much under most people's radar. And, little did we know, Wade had much more potential to improve. This constant improvement soon was to suprass Anthony, and the more talented one ultimately became obvious. We now anticipate Wade's upcoming performance (in the finals). But, may i ask, where is Carmelo?

EA almost went a step backwards with their newest release, and 2k6 just steam rolled their game. And as much as i wish EA's game in 2007 will be on the same level as 2k7, the truth is 2k are just in a whole other dimension, and will likely never happen.

You guys all started with Live and looked for an alternative and were very impressed with what you got.

Withouting counting the stage of 1996-2002, where i had EA's release, but due to technology back then, a good basketball gaming expereince wasn't fully feasible anway... I started out with both. And i can safely say that 2k is much more impressive than EA.

Well basically when nba live 07 comes out and Nba 2k7 comes im going to get
both becuz there are good triats in both games. Even though Ive been
a nba live fan since...i was 5 playing Nba Live 1998, but yes 2k has
steped there game up. But Ea isn't like blown out the Dust yet
this could easily be a Suns vs Lakers in players 06 lol.

And this year I've found some of the gameplay in 2k6 really boring compared to Live. Number one, it's severely limited in dunks.

24 hours ago I would've agreed with you, but now I know it's completely wrong... I found out by accident (my finger slipped ) if you do different movements on the shot stick when you're about to dunk, you'll do all sorts of different things. 360's, through the legs, statue of liberty, those 2 handed dunks where the guy swings around the hoop, other 2 handed dunks where they spread their legs and hang onto the rim etc. I think 2K6's biggest problem is that alot of what you find is due to experimentation, but it's definitely there.

Shit, really? I didn't even know that! (Actually I knew about the 360 dunk). Example?

Go into practise mode, pick a team with a good dunker (Kobe or something) and when you dribble in to the hoop, instead of just pressing up or left or whatever on the shot stick, move it all the way from left to the right side and see if it does anything. The different directions/distances you move the stick around, the different dunks you'll get. I'll try and make a list... I'll post them in the 2k6 thread.

Edit: Ok maybe not

I just went into practise mode with Tracy McGrady and found 14 different dunks... from the basic 1/2 handers down to 360's and the Lister Blister. So that 14, plus the 3 post-up dunks he can do would equal 17 different dunks for him. I'll try Amare.

Amare has about 3 less, but a few more unique ones McGrady hasn't got... I guess it is all about experimenting and finding the right movements.

I get the feeling the through the legs dunk is more exclusive, because I've done it with LeBron but I couldn't get it done with McGrady.

Um...if you go to one of the extra features in 2k6, there is a tutorial, and it shows you how to do a 360 (rotate shot stick 360 degrees)...but I guess nobody really uses tutorials these days.

However, shouldn't all this be in a thing called a manual? But both 2k6 and nba live 2006 both have shitty manuals that tell you nothing. But then again...nobody sees the manuals these days either.

That's a 360, it doesn't cover other dunks.

Well since where on the topic of hidden dunks in 2k6...

You can do a cradle dunk when you push the shot stick left and a slight rotation down I think, I've rarely done it. You can do a baseline reverse with one hand if you press down on the analog stick while driving baseline, but I think you have to take off in or very near the paint.

I know of all the 360s, reverses, and what not in the game. I've had it since November. There's a few variations 360 layup as well if you didn't know.

And WTF is the Lister Blister? LoL.

The games been out almost a year and now you start discovering what you can do in it... I'm starting to question wheter or not you have even played the game...

On a more serious note... EA can do lots of things that 2k people don't have an inkling of doing... There is so much know-how at EA and they've got Tim, who definitely keeps close taps on this forum since he is the one that originated this concept.

Basically what you guys are telling me is that we don't know anything about either of the games... Then how can we say which is better and which is not??? There is no basis to base our beliefs until we hear more about the games than we do at the moment...

NBA Live 06 is a good game... It still does entertain me and the dynasty mode has improved over what it was in Live 2005. Granted it wasn't a big improvement, but it was improvement none-the-less...

The fact about EA games is that Madden is the front line and gets all the new great features that leave Live fans licking themselves wet, but these features have a tendency to trickle down to the other games with time...

I for one would certainly not be surprised if we saw the "super-star mode" implemented in Live 07 or by latest at 08...

But as it's been said we don't know anything... About either game... We know too little to base anything on anything... We all could be wrong and Peter Molyneux comes up with "Black & White: Hoops" where the pets play basket ball that blows us all away... You never know.

I don't know if its a good thing or a bad thing that we don't know anything, but before we do... We don't know anything...

Was that repeated enough times to make myself clear???

If you know them all, why are you saying there aren't enough dunks I'd say 17 per player is enough for me.

And WTF is the Lister Blister? LoL.

http://img196.exs.cx/img196/1399/kemp6ku.gif

Also here

http://www.nba.com/inside_stuff/five_dunks_041229.html

Listed as one of the top 5 dunks of all time

oh my god that dunk is brutal...

I bet you won't. Considering your ip is banned. LOL

How you know I already dont have another ip? LOL

now all three are banned. LOL

If you know them all, why are you saying there aren't enough dunks I'd say 17 per player is enough for me.

And WTF is the Lister Blister? LoL.

http://img196.exs.cx/img196/1399/kemp6ku.gif

Also here

http://www.nba.com/inside_stuff/five_dunks_041229.html

Listed as one of the top 5 dunks of all time

That Rock-a-bye-baby dunk by dr. J should have been there instead of chambers' dunk.

Oh, I never knew that it was called the "Lister Blister" lol.

Also, did you read the manual/demonstrative video on the dunks?

Moving the analog stick...
Left=Two-Handed Windmill(fuck, why did they have to take the one-hand windmill out ), sometimes a cradle dunk
Right=One handed dunk with the right hand like "the Lister Blister" or LeBron's skywalker dunk
Right+about a 45 degree rotation=360 dunk (let go of turbo and it equals a 360 layup)
Up=a tomohawk, sometimes a one handed tomohawk or regular two/one handed dunk
Down=a reverse dunk, a regular reverse dunk for average dunkers and a double pump reverse for good dunkers

That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

sounds pretty good!