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Postby PeterG on Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:24 pm

Dear all,

I've got a problem with team chemistry and lineup synergy. No matter how often I make team events these two do not improve. At the same time team chemistry changes from game to game. What would you recommend?
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Postby Fitzy on Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:38 pm

what is your current lineup?
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Postby PeterG on Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:47 pm

I've been trading a lot:
C. Shaq
PF. Howard
SF. Lewis
SG. Redd
PG. Wade
Oh, and this was Heat.
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Postby Flash 3 on Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:54 pm

Win some more games. Probably most of the players want to use the ball more. So maybe trade some people away for unknown players?
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Postby PeterG on Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:00 pm

Well, on the player info screen everyone seems to be very happy!
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Postby Flash 3 on Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:01 pm

The team might be happy but they might not have chemistry on the court.
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Postby PeterG on Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:13 pm

Then I don't get it. On the one hand I don't want to trade anyone (I have very balanced star roster and any change would weaken it), but on the other hand team chemistry changes in between 50-70% from game to game. What would you suggest?
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Postby Flash 3 on Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:18 pm

Chemistry doesn't mean anything unless you are simming. If you're playing the whole game, you'll have no problems. I think. Someone correct me if i am wrong.
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Postby PeterG on Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:22 pm

Thanks! And what about lineup synergy?
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Postby Oznogrd on Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:06 am

the chemistry/lineup synergy i think is all for looks: EA says it affects your game but i have yet to notice
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Postby e-mat on Sat Nov 11, 2006 2:34 am

I agree with illini. Team chemistry is changing from game to game (if you win, it raises, if you lose, it drops). But lineup synergy and player chemistry never changes. At least during the season in doesn't. Don't know about the offseason. Also I don't like that things like satisfaction with market size is random. One will love it and then hate it when you start the dynasty over again. (N)
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Postby Ashman23 on Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:04 pm

The only time I've noticed an effect is that I traded alot in my first year and had about five guys end their contract at the end of the first season, one of them decided not to resign due to too much trading and a lack of team chemistry. What I found funny was that no amount of money could change his mind (I love a guy with principles lol).
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Postby e-mat on Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:11 pm

I that case I'm screwed... Most players hate the chemistry no matter what I do...
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Postby SuperBoggs on Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:32 am

Is Team Chemistry affected by having too many stars? I'm playing the Lakers with this starting lineup:

C: Andrew Bynum (with rating 77) / Nick Collison
PF: Lamar Odom / Brian Cook
SF: Vladimir Radmanovic / Rookie Sub
SG: Kobe Bryant / Sasha Vujacic
PG: Smush Parker / Jordan Farmar

And I've been losing big time... My record right now is 30-43. I always simulate through the season and actually play only when I get to playoffs...

Any advice guys?
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Postby Ashman23 on Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:26 am

I don't think having stars really matter, I've got Wade and Bosh as well as B Wallace, Hinrich and Nocioni with Diaw, Gordon, Deng, Aldridge , Thomas and Morrison coming off the bench and they're all OK. Even the younger guys all seem to 'love' each other.
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Postby jungbum on Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:15 am

If you trade too much, your players will be feeling insecured. Thus mentioning a lot about roster stability.
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Postby mike879 on Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:22 am

about line up synergy, this is seen when you play the game right? in the subsitution screen, when you change your line up, the blue bar is also changing. this i think has an effect depending on the player chemistry. but im not sure if this affects the game itself, like more turnovers or something like that.

for example, i got kirk snyder from a trade. im using the cavs, and everytime i sub in kirk to the line up the bar drops down to like 50% whereas my starters at around 80-90%
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Postby SuperBoggs on Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:09 pm

Mike879: Yup. You can also see it when you change our starting lineup before a game.

Ashman23: Might be veering away from the topic but how'd you get so many stars? How about your salary cap?
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Postby mike879 on Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:11 am

But does it actually affect the way you play the game... like when you do a pass it will slip out because they dont have that "synergy" in them, missing shots, more turnovers etc.
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Postby Chris_23 on Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:36 am

While I don't know for a fact, I have noticed better teamwork between better lineup synergy. I don't know if player to player chemistry affects it, or lineup synergy, but even when I have a star on court with another player on court who ruins synergy my star fails even open shots more often. Luke Ridnour tends to ruin Ben Gordons game in my dynasty for example, while Ben works amazingly well with Kirk Hinrich.

I'm quite sure lineup synergy has an effect on how well the team plays on court, and I think chemistry factors influence synergy, but affect directly dynasty related issues like contracts and trades.

While not a fact, and I believe it is quite hard to prove it (which I still might do, but it's still hard since it's hard to tell whether player shoots well because of luck, initiative or synergy since there are no constant ratings of such displayed), I believe it affects the game. Not in a large way, but in a way.
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Postby guan lu on Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:47 am

I tried checking out my players.dbf for chemistry stuff, and sure enough, at the very end, there is a column labeled CHEMTYPE. It appears there are only some specific player chemistry types. I haven't really tried it out yet, but some specific player types have great chemistry together, while some types just seem to hate each other. In my case, I changed Darko's CHEMTYPE to 2 from 1, and now he's getting along well with his mates in my Orlando Dynasty.

It seems, too, that created players might have 0 as a chemistry value, by default. I'm using Jimmy's rosters, by the way,and all the new guys -- Thabo, Spanoulis, etc -- seem to have 0. (or is this deliberate, Jimmy?) I'm still in the first year in my dynasty, so I haven't really experimented or tried anything yet. It also might be that these values can change over time. I'll try checking that out sometime.

There's also a column next to CHEMTYPE that seems to determine a player's chemistry needs, such as stability, market, team events, etc. Most likely the values for this use the same principle as in the Valid Freestyle Superstars, where the value given is merely a total of the possible want scenarios for the specific player.

That's so far as I got anyhow. Maybe some one with more free time could check this out?
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Postby mike879 on Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:45 pm

Try changing 1 team's chemtype to the same value, say 1... they should all be loving each other now... hahaha :lol:
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Postby t_bone_713 on Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:02 am

If the whole Lineup synergy doesn't affect the game then how come the knicks are 5-15 on my dynasty (I'm the wizards btw). They should be 20-0 or close to it with all the stars they have.
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Postby Oznogrd on Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:20 am

t_bone_713 wrote:If the whole Lineup synergy doesn't affect the game then how come the knicks are 5-15 on my dynasty (I'm the wizards btw). They should be 20-0 or close to it with all the stars they have.


Lineup synergy has nothing to do with stars, it has to do with the "gelling" of a team, how well they fit and work together..so needless to say: the knicks suck; just as in real life
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something i found

Postby ATECH4U2NV on Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:42 am

it does not matter how manny games you win or if your players dont like each other ect the bottom line is you need depth i had just 6 or 7 playersafter i traded like crazy
original line up
james
paul pierce
ben wallace
redd
snow
frye
josh smith
bowen
switzer
boozer
when i had this line up my chemistry and line up was about 80 percent

then i traded ben wallace and switzer for joe jonhson and draft pick 1 and 2 draft spot
then i traded paul pierce and josh smith for stoud and bowen for 1draft pick and moochie morris

now i had so few players that i didnt even get unknow superstar before game and lineup and chemistry was down to 30 percent
i was stuck 3 1st round picks and 2 second round for what
the reason for the trade wallace and piece was both out of contract that year and why not gwt somthing for it

....solution.. take your first round pick and find a sucker to trade it for 1st and second round pick found 2 of them giving me know 5 fist rounders and 4 second rounders then go to free agent siging and sign some players
no more that 1 at time then trade them for for him and picks

i got to trade boozer and snow and first round pick for paul

then i got gorden and villanova and second round pick for redd

i then traded 2 second round picks and free agent for frye

i then trade 1st and second round pick and other free agent for
billips

leaving me with +1mill in cap and 3 first roung picks wich have a 4 years contract rather than 2 :D

new line up
james
stoud
jonson, joe
ben gorden
paul
billips
villanova
frye
moochie morris

now i have a 98 percent line up and chemistry if you want i will post it
but the trick is to before you sign them or trade hit team chemistry and view players in league that will give you highest chemistry or blue bars then go after them with your drat picks..i have also noticed than somtimes it takes 4 to 5 times to get deal or trade more so with draft picks just keep trying and belive me it does make a differnce i was devestaing scored 240 pionts 1 game and stoud got like 140 one game with a least 1 player geting 20 pionts besides him and others taking shots also not just a ball hog like i said other players scored hope it helps but it will. just what i noticed

simple trick in 2 min to get you chemisrty up to at least 80 perscnet what does the tutorial say

look at chemistry to find out who to hire and fire also with this team i had a rating of 94 im looking to trade jonson as i had no need for him i used him mostly as bench person starnge as it may seem
stoud was center
frye/villanove pf dependind
billups/paul piont gaurds
gorden sg
james sf

also change things up they gaurd the post i would move billips to sg and gorden to sf and james as pf with stoud as center and paul to drive lane with point in isolation also nobody draws more fouls than frye on layups
amazing and he hits 88 from the line lol

then big man c stoud
pf frye
sf villanovq
sg gorden yes gorden :roll: over jonson jonnson cant get rebounds 30 and /52 on d gorgen dont have much better stats but he can leap 75 jumper better than :shock: james lol
pg james

85 percent got d boards if not more anyway hope it helps and give me som pionters you can never learn to much and whats the site for right lol :wink: good day

and justed use speed and layups one more question were do you go to find what thinds like how stats effect the game and at what level like offense awarness sounds simple yes and i know the levels as to make them superstrt as such but would be nice just to know how they all factor in like stamina at what level will he throw bricksor stop jumping and blocking just would be nice to know good day all
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