NLSC Roster Update v0.1 Beta

[Andrew]

A new beta roster for the NBA Live PC project is now available for testing.

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Please note that the beta DOES NOT contain any art. This beta is just being released to make sure the conversion has worked properly and that there aren't any funny issues. I've tested it and everything seems to be OK but if you do notice anything strange (except missing art which I'm aware of because again, the patch does not include any art updates) please let me know.

Aside from that, the rosters are pretty much finished; players shouldn't be missing any shoes or anything like that but cyberfaces, portraits and jerseys are missing or outdated in the beta. If there any issues, I'll be sure to fix them up for a stable release. Otherwise, we need to start compiling art updates for the full release.

So, please post any issues here and if you're helping out with the project as far as art is concerned, please post here too so we can start getting the full package sorted.

[cxtian]

Thanks man, i will try it out and see if it will work perfectly.

[Andrew]

Thanks, appreciate it. Just to add to what I said in the first post, at this stage I'm not looking so much for ratings feedback at this stage but certainly any weird behaviour, crashes and the like are things that need to be stamped out ASAP.

[Erchamion]

Great, i will use and test them later today and the coming days. Thanks man.

I never liked Live 08 but Live 06 is still a fantastic game. Even now i'm playing NBA 2K9 i still have a lot of fun with Live 06.

[undead_knite]

Hi Andrew. I've installed your roster but I encountered this problem of 'black crowd' for every court I've played. I've played Spree's roster and they are perfectly okay.


By undead_knite

Hope you can resolve this.
By the way, my settings for graphics is maximum.

[fumanchu]

if you have time to post art files needed, ill be more than glad to help...

BTW ive tried the roster and its okay so far...except for the incorrect player numbers...other than that...no crashes or the like so far..

[Jackie Kong]

Andrew, the roster update looks good but i was really expecting more legends.
I took some time to look at the list and here are the players that i really think should be in (maybe i am missing someone):
Nate Thurmond
Elvin Hayes
Adrian Dantley
Joe Dumars
Alex English
Artis Gilmore
Gail Goodrich
Connie Hawkins
Spencer Haywood
Dan Issel
Dennis Johnson
Bernard King
Bob McAdoo
Sidney Moncrief
Calvin Murphy
Drazen Petrovic
Gus Williams

They are all legends that deserve to be in the list as much as some of the players that are in already.

I really hope you can do something about it. And i know that almost no one thinks the same way as i do but i would wait some more days if this legends could be added.

[Erchamion]

This roster is not about legends but about the latest NBA teams.

If you want legends download this patch: http://forums.nba-live.com/viewtopic.php?t=34617

[Jackie Kong]

I dont agree with you. This is the roster for the PC Project and i think it should include everything from nba current rosters to legends.

And i am not talking about the best players in each team history (related to the roster link you gave) but the main legends in nba history.

Moreover, i believe that what i am asking for can only make the project better. If you think about it, I only mentioned 17 players and once you make them they are done because they are retired and they dont need their rating to be updated with every update.

[Erchamion]

You mention 17 players yes. But what about other guys starting to mention other players. Looking at basketball history, skills and statistics i don't consider all your 17 players legends btw. I can give you a list of retired players who are better than some of the players you are mentioning. But like i said this is not a legends rosterpatch and in my opinion the PC Project doesn't mean that you can't use other rosters than the one provided because you can.

[Jackie Kong]

It is not all about stats. If you go by stats even Coleman could be in the list.

I only added players that appear in nba history index and that were successful in the league (playing for winning teams). You could probably argue about Petrovic but he was the first eurostar and he opened the doors for the rest of the euro players.

A nba legend is not made of stats. A legend is someone who will always be remembered in for being different than the rest and nba legends are made of a winning and heroic attitude and leadership (nothing to do with having the ball in the hands all the time and shooting ).

[Jackie Kong]

At least, Nate Thurmond and Elvin Hayes should in because they both were in the "The NBA at 50" list.

[fumanchu]

why dont we wait for Andrew's opinion on this....he's the one making it...you people are the one's requesting it...even if you debate on it endlessly, if Andrew thinks it's not happening then all these debate will be for nothing...and you'll be wasting space...just state your case and wait what happens...instead of arguing who should be in or not...

[Andrew]

Thanks for the feedback so far.

Hi Andrew. I've installed your roster but I encountered this problem of 'black crowd' for every court I've played. I've played Spree's roster and they are perfectly okay.

That's strange, that shouldn't happen as the rosters don't change any of the court art files. I'll look into it all the same...is anyone else experiencing that problem?

Andrew, the roster update looks good but i was really expecting more legends.
I took some time to look at the list and here are the players that i really think should be in (maybe i am missing someone):

At this point, adding Legends (and extra teams and other such things) really isn't a priority. I know you feel differently but for the moment, making sure the conversion works properly and the NBA rosters are up to date and having all the necessary art updates is much more important. I'd rather make sure all that stuff is working properly first.

If someone would like to start making some additional Legends cyberfaces though, that would be fantastic and speed up the process of expanding the Legends rosters.

[clow36]

Yes I'm playing the game right now and I'm having the problem also with the crowd being black, and its like that for the lower level as far as I can see the upper decks seem to be ok.

[patryk08]

I have a problem. During the installation a mistake is appearing.
' you must enter a full path with drive letter;for example:
C:\APP
or a UNC path in the form:
\\server\share '

Please for the help

[got philk?]

I'm testing the roster and I too have the black crowd.

[ch1no]

That's strange, that shouldn't happen as the rosters don't change any of the court art files. I'll look into it all the same...is anyone else experiencing that problem?

Yes Andrew I get the black crowd also, maybe something in database needs to be changed. I'll check it and see if I can help you out.

[patryk08]

error
' you must enter a full path with drive letter;for example:
C:\APP
or a UNC path in the form:
\\server\share '

please help

[ch1no]

error
' you must enter a full path with drive letter;for example:
C:\APP
or a UNC path in the form:
\\server\share '

please help

The EXE File of the roster update is auto detect meaning it detects your NBA Live 06 Folder without entering a specific path for the installation. Now what I can see from that error message is that it fails to detect your NBA Live Folders. It works fine for me so might be something in the way you installed NBA Live 06 in your system.

[Andrew]

I'll look into the crowd problem, I must have overlooked something in the databases.

I have a problem. During the installation a mistake is appearing.
' you must enter a full path with drive letter;for example:
C:\APP
or a UNC path in the form:
\\server\share '

Please for the help

It might sound like a stupid question, but do you have NBA Live 06 currently installed on your system? The installation routine should detect the folder you installed it to without any problems.

[Jackie Kong]

At this point, adding Legends (and extra teams and other such things) really isn't a priority. I know you feel differently but for the moment, making sure the conversion works properly and the NBA rosters are up to date and having all the necessary art updates is much more important. I'd rather make sure all that stuff is working properly first.

If someone would like to start making some additional Legends cyberfaces though, that would be fantastic and speed up the process of expanding the Legends rosters.

Thats fine. I dont want to make you feel that i dont appreciate your work because i do.

[ch1no]

Andrew, just one question. After installing your patch and loading it up to the game, i played a couple of games which is good except for the black crowd and missing art, but that's not the problem. When I reset the rosters after I loaded your save file, I expected the original db to be loaded. But when I pressed the reset rosters what happened was it loaded the original db players but the team adidas stayed in there and also oklahoma city stayed oklahoma city instead of reverting back to seattle. So it seems that your patch altered the originaldb file also that whenever I reset, the players are the only ones that have reset but the teams haven't?

[Andrew]

Thats fine. I dont want to make you feel that i dont appreciate your work because i do.

No worries, I know how keen you are on the Legends so I wanted to explain the situation.

Andrew, just one question. After installing your patch and loading it up to the game, i played a couple of games which is good except for the black crowd and missing art, but that's not the problem. When I reset the rosters after I loaded your save file, I expected the original db to be loaded. But when I pressed the reset rosters what happened was it loaded the original db players but the team adidas stayed in there and also oklahoma city stayed oklahoma city instead of reverting back to seattle. So it seems that your patch altered the originaldb file also that whenever I reset, the players are the only ones that have reset but the teams haven't?

The patch does not affect the files in originaldb. The Reset Rosters function only moves players back to their original teams and dumps everyone else in the Free Agent pool. It doesn't reset the teams.dbf data or anything like that. If you want a better Reset Rosters function, it's better to have a saved roster containing all the default dbf files to load whenever you want to go back to the default rosters because Reset Rosters does not work as it should.

[ch1no]

The patch does not affect the files in originaldb. The Reset Rosters function only moves players back to their original teams and dumps everyone else in the Free Agent pool. It doesn't reset the teams.dbf data or anything like that. If you want a better Reset Rosters function, it's better to have a saved roster containing all the default dbf files to load whenever you want to go back to the default rosters because Reset Rosters does not work as it should.

oh, i see now. thanks for that info andrew. by the way the reason i want to reset was to compare your save game to the original one, i want to try and help you out on solving the black crowd mystery and why it happened. by the way how's the NLSC 06 roster update doing?