wow, there are soooo many things wrong with this game...

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wow, there are soooo many things wrong with this game...

Postby tongefactor40 on Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:45 am

Improvements from 05:

1. I think the graphics are much better, along with the player motions in terms of their body positions when they are shooting leaners/fade aways/off balance shots/dunks and layups in general
2. one thing that really pissed me off last year was the passing game... so sad, and its not great in 06 but it is definitely improved
3. transition game actually exists unlike last year
Where 06 has fallen short:
sooo many things...
1. gliding in my opinion is worse then ever, its virtually impossible to stop someone from going to the basket and throwing it down
2. dribbling looks like crap... again
3. defense is a total joke, makes me wonder if these ea sports developers have ever seen a basketball game, the concept of team defense is clearly above them
4. I set my defensive rebouding slider to 100 and the cpu offensive rebounding slider to 0, and they still average about 5 offensive rebounds per quarter, so if by complete miracle i am able to stop someone from scoring the 1st time, they normally throw it down the 2nd time
5. seems like more focus has been put onto the free style bs and other little things than actual gameplay, afterall this is supposed to be a simulation, in reality it is far from that
6. in order to make this game playable/enjoyable, a roster player rating adjustment/update will need to be made

i was really looking forward to this game, cause it seemed like 05 had a lot of things that were finally starting to go right, and it seemed as though EA would just build upon it and make it even better, but they really havent.

seems like EA has really dropped the ball this year... nba live, madden, nhl, are all pretty crappy compared to previous versions
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Postby Voxel on Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:55 am

1. gliding in my opinion is worse then ever, its virtually impossible to stop someone from going to the basket and throwing it down
2. dribbling looks like crap... again
3. defense is a total joke, makes me wonder if these ea sports developers have ever seen a basketball game, the concept of team defense is clearly above them
4. I set my defensive rebouding slider to 100 and the cpu offensive rebounding slider to 0, and they still average about 5 offensive rebounds per quarter, so if by complete miracle i am able to stop someone from scoring the 1st time, they normally throw it down the 2nd time
5. seems like more focus has been put onto the free style bs and other little things than actual gameplay, afterall this is supposed to be a simulation, in reality it is far from that
6. in order to make this game playable/enjoyable, a roster player rating adjustment/update will need to be made


so very true... FG% is sky up high specially if you play superstar. the comp would just drive to the basket on every play and end up with an astonishing 55%+ from the field. im about to raise both on-ball physical defense from 70 to 80 for both the CPU and the user. it's just plain dumb how easy it is to get inside the key when that's almost the most difficult thing to do IRL bball.
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Postby Cable on Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:21 am

6. in order to make this game playable/enjoyable, a roster player rating adjustment/update will need to be made



If you're playing on PC, there are currently 3 or 4 roster updates in the 06 Announcements forum and Andrew will make his soon.
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Postby cyanide on Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:04 am

My god, I just finished my first game, and beat Utah by 40 points in 7 minute quarters. Amare scored 58 points on 23/28 shots, it's ridiculous. This game is so freaking easy, even with adjusted sliders because the inside is so freaking easy to score in. You can just walk your way right in the paint, hold on the Power Freestyle and dunk it over anybody, and draw the foul. It's so fucking stupid. Also, the offensive rebounding crap is ridiculous on both sides. My sliders are at 0 offensive rebounds, and I still grab them whenever I want, and the CPU seems to do the same.
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Postby Jugs on Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:10 am

Bitch you beat Utah :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: . The fouling is quite fucking frustrating and the offensive rebounds... and the defence... they are probably my main problems with the game
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Postby cyanide on Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:24 am

Actually, I don't have problems with fouling. It's much more realistic. It's just the player collison detection, the hesitation between passes, and offensive rebounds that are the biggest problems for me right now. Ironically, the first two problems I mentioned were my biggest gripes in 2005. I'm so glad EA Canada fixed that :roll:
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Postby tongefactor40 on Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:50 am

if andrew doesnt do a hella sexy update for this game to make it worth playing im probably just gonna uninstall it and go back to 05 - at least on that i can plat 10 minute quarters on superstar, and the cpu will generally shoot below 50% for the game, and i dont totally dominate all the time
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Postby Impose on Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:52 am

For all the people who find it too easy, just use New Orleans ;)
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Postby Patr1ck on Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:11 pm

I agree with everything. My first game I played with default sliders on superstar and used the clippers vs knicks. It had a good flow but the pass-catching animations are too slow and allow the defense to recover quickly(not like it matters with the FG%). They(I) even played like the clippers, losing control in the second half and fouling and fouling. I only lost by 4 because of the inside D, and my created player fouled out down the stretch. The weird thing is I found out its not hard to get a defensive rebound if you are BEHIND the player, you just jump right after them and push them past the ball. The fast break is the greatest thing about Live '06, hopefully a fast break can be stopped, though. The Freestyle Superstar needs a slider for each type, and for CPU/USER. I would also like to see a ratio for increasing/decreasing the effectiveness of each slider.

We need to make an OFFICIAL PATCH WISHLIST thread, sticky it and send it to EA.

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Postby Andrew on Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:26 pm

tongefactor40 wrote:if andrew doesnt do a hella sexy update for this game to make it worth playing im probably just gonna uninstall it and go back to 05 - at least on that i can plat 10 minute quarters on superstar, and the cpu will generally shoot below 50% for the game, and i dont totally dominate all the time


I can make a roster update that updates player ratings and makes the latest transactions, and I can suggest slider tweaks...but there's some things I just can't do with a roster update so if there's something in the game's engine you really don't like that can't be adjusted with sliders, I won't be able to suggest any solution short of the next Wishlist.
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Postby Impose on Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:35 pm

Andrew wrote:
tongefactor40 wrote:if andrew doesnt do a hella sexy update for this game to make it worth playing im probably just gonna uninstall it and go back to 05 - at least on that i can plat 10 minute quarters on superstar, and the cpu will generally shoot below 50% for the game, and i dont totally dominate all the time


I can make a roster update that updates player ratings and makes the latest transactions, and I can suggest slider tweaks...but there's some things I just can't do with a roster update so if there's something in the game's engine you really don't like that can't be adjusted with sliders, I won't be able to suggest any solution short of the next Wishlist.


It seems the main bitch people are having is that highflyer/power superstar abilities are too good, an easy solution would be to downgrade the majority of players with these abilities so its less of a factor.

Realisticly I think maybe 5 or 6 players in the league are REAL power players.

Theres alot of high flyers out there, but if you can slim it down so there isnt 20 of them it should be sweet...

Anyways, thats how i'd make it a bit more realistic. Change CPU double team effectiveness too perhaps so its not as easy to get post plays happening

Be creative, the tools are there, just stop bitching. (Not you Andrew, you never bitch.)
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Postby tongefactor40 on Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:27 pm

yeah some players are just TOO good in this game, and i think that the rebounds is what pisses me off most. seems as though that is definitely soemthing that can be fixed with some roster modifications. as for players ice skating... i understand that nothing can really be done
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Postby Throwbacks on Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:38 pm

Yeah and on my PS2 the Free Throw shooting reacts too late!
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Postby Gator on Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:51 pm

I actually like this game. I was phoenix and I lost to Miami and it was starter:Sbut i wasn't really trying.
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Postby Abctest123 on Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:16 pm

so... is it worth it or not for the ps2? because according to some on these boards, the ps2 lacks quite a lot(expected ps2 IS afterall, about 5 years old) compared to the xbox and pc and is too easy, also the few that say the game is good but gives like 5 points about the game that are bad...
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Postby Tim*The King*Duncan on Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:20 pm

I think the ps2 version is alot bettter in terms of gameplay than the pc version. The pc version is just plain dork cheap! your up by ten points then every last 1 minute of the quarter, the cpu superstars to a 2 point lead, that's just an example of the dumbness of this game, but its toned down in the ps2 version, much more playable.
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Postby chinkiwinki on Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:26 pm

and also how do u get the backdown button if your using keyboard?
I am pretty annoyed by that....
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Postby tongefactor40 on Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:28 pm

chinkiwinki wrote:and also how do u get the backdown button if your using keyboard?
I am pretty annoyed by that....

id reommend purchasing a controller for your comp, makes things soooooooooo much easier
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Postby chinkiwinki on Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:38 pm

I am definately not going to buy a controller just to play NBA live 06 just because EA (shittest company in the world) can't even finished their job properly. I am already pissed off at the bugs in BF2 and now this. Geez. So I guess I'll wait for the patch if their is one.
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Postby Voxel on Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:03 pm

there is not going to be a patch to address keyboard controlling issues. you have to live with the fact that they mean the game to be played with a console like controller. i'm not defending them and for years i bitched about it too. they have no excuse for not giving the user the possibility to map all the required keys on the keyboard. recently bought a logitech rumblepad 2 and i think it's worth it. it's a need if you enjoy sports games.
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Postby Bl@ck_Thorne on Mon Oct 03, 2005 5:35 pm

i don't need a gamepad to play this game i beat all of my opponent by 20pt in superstar mode. i think this years live is very easy, and to EA can you make back the backdown in the keyboard on live07 it's so annoying that my player won't backdown this year.
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