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Postby Fresh8 on Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:43 am

Just wanna ask for people to submit their sliders settings... I'm still testing mine but I will release them in a few days.

Just some questions:

- What should I adjust to minimise the ammouhnt of times the cpu burns you...
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Postby Andrew on Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:28 pm

Might as well make this the official sticky for this year. (Y)
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Postby Matt on Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:00 pm

i was just about to make a thread like this....

I'm setting my ratings now too. So far I've settled on...

Game Speed 38
OR 0
DR 100
Fatigue 40
IS 34
Mid rang 36
Long range 39

as far as not getting burnt, well you just have to play better D. You'll get used to it in a while
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Postby kingsfanman on Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:15 pm

I usually have my game speed to about 50, and fatigue to about 45-50.
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Postby brad feet on Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:51 pm

ok since we already have an official slider thread, i want to help. here is my preliminary sliders...... still under study though but for me it's close to realism....

notes:
1. for a newbie, you might not like it.
2. for a veteran in nbalive, you might like it, you might not...... but hey i'm just helping.... :lol:

enjoy people............

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Postby brad feet on Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:53 pm

hey peeps, just played an exhibition game between lakers and heat using my sliders and these are the things i've noticed:

1. the cpu is too dumb to foul a 3 pointer when the shot clock is winding down...... so i'm going to decrease the shooting foul to 20 or maybe 15.

2. superstars like kobe, tmac, dwade, carter, etc.... are really great in this game specially if you are controlling them and your offense runs through them(meaning you like to give them the ball always).... kobe had 40pts in the first half with me leading 58-50, so i turned the game off..... with that said, i'm going to decrease the shooting sliders but not much on the cpu side....... here goes:
Shooting Sliders (User/CPU)
Short Range (40/40)
Medium Range (35/40)
Long Range (35/40)

any suggestions or comments appreciated.......... will post results later or tom......
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Postby Rokas[LTU] on Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:21 am

Maybe anyone is playing on All-star and 7 min quarters ? This is how i'm planing to play..:D
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Postby Matt on Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:31 am

I find that my shooting sliders give a realistic FG%. I mean, Rasheed still knocks down short jumpers, and Hamilton still shoots the mid range like crazy. My 3pnt% sucks though...it's about 20% atm since my only REAL 3 pnt shooter (Billups) was out for 3 weeks, but i do knock down a lot of open shots.
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Postby SHAFT23 on Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:55 am

okay after 2 years i still don't know what Boundary force Field is for.....does anyone know this? I turned it up ll the way once and then all the way down. i played 2 games and didn't see much difference. I thogut it was for contact between players or with the out of bounds line or somethign. but i couldn't figure it out myself.
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Postby Impose on Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:05 pm

SHAFT23 wrote:okay after 2 years i still don't know what Boundary force Field is for.....does anyone know this? I turned it up ll the way once and then all the way down. i played 2 games and didn't see much difference. I thogut it was for contact between players or with the out of bounds line or somethign. but i couldn't figure it out myself.



I think its supposed to slow your momentum when you get near the boundary....

Its not supposed to have a huge affect really, just means you step out of bounds once or twice less per game...
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Postby brad feet on Fri Sep 23, 2005 1:20 pm

I find that my shooting sliders give a realistic FG%. I mean, Rasheed still knocks down short jumpers, and Hamilton still shoots the mid range like crazy. My 3pnt% sucks though...it's about 20% atm since my only REAL 3 pnt shooter (Billups) was out for 3 weeks, but i do knock down a lot of open shots.

hey matt, i guess you're right regarding the short range shooting....... 40 is still too high..... im going to make it a 35 so that all the user shooting sliders will be fixed at 35, it'll be the same for the cpu though at 40 so that it'll be challenging.... it's up to your defense to lower their fg%....... edit the sliders in a moment......
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Postby Andrew on Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:13 pm

I won't be posting any slider suggestions until I get more of a feel for the game. Some might disagree, but compared to NBA Live 2005 it doesn't really need as much tweaking out of the box so I'd like to make sure I adjust the right areas.
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Postby SHAFT23 on Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:44 pm

i guess the sliders vary for most people. of course the main flaws in the game should be changed, but if a players skill level is higher, he should turn the sliders down a bit for the user. I know that in the beginning i lost to the superstar mode a lot more and had to turn them down a bit for the cpu. After a month orso i won almost every game by 30 on superstar level and ha dot change them again or just mess up my dynasty team for it to be challenging.

thanks for the explanation of the boundary force field, by the way. (Y)
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Postby Andrew on Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:49 pm

That's the other advantage of sliders aside from realism or making the game completely arcade-like; adding more of a challenge by stacking the odds against the user.
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Postby junwin on Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:39 pm

yeh 3P shooting should probably go down a lil bit, especiazlly if u have a 'Shooter' superstar on your team. The Set shot was supposed to be easily blocked, making it only suitable in wide open situations

but i still find myself hitting set shot 3's with defenders in my face
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Postby Laxation on Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:09 am

i play 6min superstar quarters, and changed my sliders like this:
Offensive rebounds - down to 15
Defensive rebound - up to 90
Steals - down to 25 or so
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Postby brad feet on Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:28 pm

ok..... finally got the feel for the game........ thanks to the input of Matt and Laxation..... now the rebounds are not that crazy anymore...... i set the offensive rebounds to 0 and the defensive to 80...... even at 0, you could still grab some offensive boards.......

i also change the cpu adjusted shot frequency to 45 and the cpu adjusted shot percentage to 45 so that the cpu will not always adjust their shot frequently and would not always make them..... coz it's quite annoying.....

i also made the shooting sliders equal for both user and cpu coz they're still pretty incredible set at 40...... i set them like this:
short range(35-user/35-cpu)
medium range(36/36)
long range(37/37)

i also increase the on-ball defense assist to 50 and the on-ball physical defense to 80 for both user and cpu coz it's easy to lose a defender by doing freestyle moves.... and the scores would be pretty high if you play on 11min qtrs because i really dont want to decrease the game speed..... first i set it to 60 but i reduced the game speed a bit to 55.

i think these are the main components you need to adjust to make the game more realistic and fun of course......i re-attached the images for the slider settings on my first post....... and i think that's about it...... i'm pretty satisfied....... to me it's close to realism, thanks for the input guys..... and thanks to sit for starting this thread..... and to andrew for making it a sticky....... hope this helps......
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Postby tuanskoko on Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:29 am

I didnt use any slideers they are set default, and i play 10 min superstar with auto sub etc, still manage to get the game around 100 pts
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Postby Laxation on Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:11 am

Dont you get heaps of offensive boards??
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Postby Impose on Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:21 pm

Laxation wrote:Dont you get heaps of offensive boards??


Lax dood, you're using Detroit, they have rediculous rebounders period, and you probably have the technique down pretty well. I find rebound totals have been pretty even for me using the Hornets, but i still agree a 25/75 split in favoure of defensive rebounding (or something around that region) should be fair for most people....
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Postby Laxation on Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:51 pm

Impose wrote:
Laxation wrote:Dont you get heaps of offensive boards??


Lax dood, you're using Detroit, they have rediculous rebounders period, and you probably have the technique down pretty well. I find rebound totals have been pretty even for me using the Hornets, but i still agree a 25/75 split in favoure of defensive rebounding (or something around that region) should be fair for most people....


i know they have good rebounders, but like i said before. ben wallace have something like 60 off boards, is not in top 20 for defensive but leads league in rebounds... wtfs with that?
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Postby Goldenstatewarrior on Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:51 am

Impose wrote:
Lax dood, you're using Detroit, they have rediculous rebounders period, and you probably have the technique down pretty well.


True. Anyways, I have a question. Does the Freestyle Effectiveness slider affect the percentage of the superstar moves working correctly?
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Postby Impose on Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:44 am

Laxation wrote:
Impose wrote:
Laxation wrote:Dont you get heaps of offensive boards??


Lax dood, you're using Detroit, they have rediculous rebounders period, and you probably have the technique down pretty well. I find rebound totals have been pretty even for me using the Hornets, but i still agree a 25/75 split in favoure of defensive rebounding (or something around that region) should be fair for most people....


i know they have good rebounders, but like i said before. ben wallace have something like 60 off boards, is not in top 20 for defensive but leads league in rebounds... wtfs with that?



After finishing off November on my Dynasty last night and playing good rebounding teams AND bad ones, I've decided the CPU definately has an unfair advantage on the board with equal sliders.

The CPU doesnt get boxed out by your own players, making offensive boards a walk in the park, on the other hand, if i come within a metre of a CPU defender after a shot goes up im instantly glued to their back even if i wasnt running towards them....

With that in mind i'd say Rebounds in Live06 are like blocks were in Live05...
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Postby air on Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:25 pm

Hasn't anyone noticed that you can go inside and dunk with no effort at all? Yes, on superstar, with CPU on-ball physical defence anything from 40 to 100.

That CPU on-ball physical defence is funny, if it's OVER 40 or 50 you just bump into your opponent, creating space for an easy layup.

So I was just playing casually, dumping it inside on every play, dunking all the time with Stro Swift, on superstar. Try it, what a joke that is.

This game will need some serious adjustments. Not sure if they can be done with the sliders.
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Postby Fresh8 on Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:53 pm

Click for Sliders

Note: These are for All-Star mode on 12 minute quarters

I've been experimenting these and the results can be seen in my dynasty thread... plese give feedback!
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Postby twolvezfanfoever on Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:33 am

Im havin so many problems with the substitution slider.Im tryin to get it so the reserves can at least a decent amount of time in da game,but enough that my starters can wreck.And whats up wit the same lineup stayin in after the end of the quarters.It dont make sense at halftime when the starters should be comin back in for the 3rd
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Postby deluxxe on Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:36 pm

i have my fatigue effect at 40 and my auto subs at 50. seems to work pretty good. The starters seem to stay in a bit longer but i prefer it that way cuz i play on shorter quarters.
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Postby Laxation on Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:37 pm

just put user sliders to 0, and do your own subs
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Postby The X on Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:00 pm

Sit, I used your sliders....overall they seem pretty good and only really require some minor tweaking....

I adjusted the following:
game speed from 25 to 35 as 25 is unrealistically slow....so I think a rating of 35-40 is probably ideal for this....
offensive rebounds are still too frequent as david lee was having a field day....I changed both human and cpu offensive rebounding down to 10 and defensive rebounding up to 90....seems to be working a little better....
FT difficulty from 55 to 65....
neither the cpu or myself had any steals with your slider settings, so I adjusted cpu interception up to about 10 and I think steals at 20....slightly higher in both categories for humans....

the rest seem fine for the time being....let's see how it works with a little for tweaking (Y)
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Postby SHAFT23 on Wed Sep 28, 2005 10:16 pm

I changed offensive rebounds on both sliders on 0 and defensive rebs. to 100 and there are still too many damn offensive rebounds on superstar level. i played 7 minute quarters.....the scores are a little less than in real life, but the offensive rebounds are still too high. I think the only thing that will change that is by lowering every players offensive rebounding by 30 or 40 and upping every players devensive rebounding with 40........but that shit will take a lot of work.

I keep husseling back to block a shot with Kobe or Mihm and some other guy just picks up the ball and dunks it while my other players are just walking over the ball and shit. pretty frustrating. this happens 8 times a game, i think.
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Postby Jeff_Hornacek on Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:52 am

I Always set the the lay u frequence up(75), and keep the dunk frequence at 50...
It keeps the game less arcadish, looking like real basket with lay ups...
also, the players move their body too much when dunking... instead of hiring garnett and lebron for motion capture, they should hire players like Chris Mihm, Solid white guy dunk on the post, not fancy but it could look more natural...
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Postby SHAFT23 on Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:55 am

the players move their body too much when dunking... instead of hiring garnett and lebron for motion capture, they should hire players like Chris Mihm, Solid white guy dunk on the post, not fancy but it could look more natural...


live 2005 had a good diversity in dunks.........now most of the guys do the jordan and barkley dunk.......guys who don't have the hangtime are floating from the dotted line and doing jordan and hammer dunks. the dunkpacks suck ass in nba live 06.
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Postby Goldenstatewarrior on Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:43 am

Da BaLLa wrote:
I have a question. Does the Freestyle Effectiveness slider affect the percentage of the superstar moves working correctly?


Nobody has answered my question yet. :?
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Postby koberulz on Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:19 pm

last year it controlled the effectiveness of crossovers etc. done with the right analogue stick, this year it may or may not be for SuperStars as well
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Postby Impose on Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:36 pm

twolvezfanfoever wrote:Im havin so many problems with the substitution slider.Im tryin to get it so the reserves can at least a decent amount of time in da game,but enough that my starters can wreck.And whats up wit the same lineup stayin in after the end of the quarters.It dont make sense at halftime when the starters should be comin back in for the 3rd


Man, seriously, just do the subs yourself. I can't believe you're that lazy. Working out your OWN rotation that works is part of being a good coach/player. I'm glad it shits you.
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Postby jaywill on Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:34 pm

Nice sliders. I hope someone comes up with a slider for 12 min of Play. All star Level.
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Postby Scotty on Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:03 pm

[quote="Rokas[LTU]"]Maybe anyone is playing on All-star and 7 min quarters ? This is how i'm planing to play..:D[/quote]
Thats exactly how i have it. Totally agreed! :cool:
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Postby aylmer1981 on Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:45 pm

are we getting a NLSC official sliders this year?

anyone notice that the high flyer, power freestyle moves are unstoppable? Anyway sliders will help that?
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Postby brad feet on Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:33 am

aylmer1981 wrote:are we getting a NLSC official sliders this year?

anyone notice that the high flyer, power freestyle moves are unstoppable? Anyway sliders will help that?

if you check my sliders above, the on-ball physical defense is set at 80 so that it'll be a little harder to escape an opponent because freestyle moves are too powerful in this version of live..... i guess that's the only way to make it a little difficult...... hope that helps...... another thing, i'm increasing th blocks from 5 to 25, 5 is too low......
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Postby spk277 on Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:44 am

Sumbody pleez hook up theez sliders b4 I snap dis game in half!!!!! tha defence is way to hard, I can barley get off any freestyle moves, I watched tha intro to tha game & I see them movin with ease, thass how I wanna play!!!
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Postby Fitzy on Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:47 am

Maybe put your difficulty setting down?
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Postby twolvezfanfoever on Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:31 am

Impose wrote:
twolvezfanfoever wrote:Im havin so many problems with the substitution slider.Im tryin to get it so the reserves can at least a decent amount of time in da game,but enough that my starters can wreck.And whats up wit the same lineup stayin in after the end of the quarters.It dont make sense at halftime when the starters should be comin back in for the 3rd


Man, seriously, just do the subs yourself. I can't believe you're that lazy. Working out your OWN rotation that works is part of being a good coach/player. I'm glad it shits you.


Shut da hell up.Fuckin hater.Some people want the computer to sub for them.shit.Get off mines
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Postby 2xEv_Dang on Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:45 am

I think that Live 2006 Realistic Stats Slider is
Live 2005 Andrew Sliders v2.0 SuperStar 10 Min Play


GLOBAL:

Game Speed: 36
Free Throw Difficulty: 70
Boundary Force Field: 60
Injury Frequency: 50
Fatigue Effect: 52
Charge/Block Foul Frequency: 60
Shooting Foul Frequency: 35
Reach-in Foul Frequency: 22
In-air Collision Foul Frequency: 75

USER:

User Steal Ability: 44
User Interception Ability: 35
User Shot Block Ability: 0
User Dunk/Lay-up Block Ability: 5
User Freestyle Effectiveness: 45
User Dunk vs. Lay-up Frequency: 30
User Substitution Frequency: 50
User On-ball Defense Assist: 42
User Offensive Rebounding: 40
User Defensive Rebounding: 75
User Fakeout Discipline: 100
User Short Range Shooting: 50
User Medium Range Shooting: 50
User Long Range Shooting: 50
User Dunk Percentage: 50
User Lay-up Percentage: 50
User Adjusted Shot Percentage: 50
User On-ball Defense: 50
User Poor Release Shot Percent: 50
User Double-team Effectiveness: 50
User Pro Hop Effectiveness: 30
User Drop Step Effectiveness: 50

CPU:

CPU Steal Ability: 28
CPU Interception Ability: 9
CPU Shot Block Ability: 0
CPU Dunk/Lay-up Block Ability: 5
CPU Freestyle Effectiveness: 40 ※ I'm 06 Fix -> 50 ※
CPU Dunk Frequency: 30
CPU Substitution Frequency: 50
CPU Offensive Rebounding: 40
CPU Defensive Rebounding: 75
CPU Fakeout Discipline: 50
CPU Short Range Shooting: 50
CPU Medium Range Shooting: 50
CPU Long Range Shooting: 50
CPU Dunk Percentage: 50
CPU Lay-up Percentage: 50
CPU Adjusted Shot Percentage: 50
CPU Adjusted Shot Frequency: 50
CPU On-ball Physical Defense: 33
CPU Poor Release Shot Percent: 50
CPU Double-team Effectiveness: 50
CPU Pro Hop Effectiveness: 50
CPU Drop Step Effectiveness: 50


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Postby Cyberbird on Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:44 am

Is there any way to change the user-sliders for online-play? In my opinion there has to be a file in which they store those settings...
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Postby berdush on Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:44 am

Sit wrote:Click for Sliders

Note: These are for All-Star mode on 12 minute quarters

I've been experimenting these and the results can be seen in my dynasty thread... plese give feedback!


man, I saw your dynasty boxscores, you give loads of turnovers and offensive rebounds... in which games you used these slider settings?
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Re: I think

Postby aylmer1981 on Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:58 am

blradi wrote:I think that Live 2006 Realistic Stats Slider is
Live 2005 Andrew Sliders v2.0 SuperStar 10 Min Play


GLOBAL:

Game Speed: 36
Free Throw Difficulty: 70
Boundary Force Field: 60
Injury Frequency: 50
Fatigue Effect: 52
Charge/Block Foul Frequency: 60
Shooting Foul Frequency: 35
Reach-in Foul Frequency: 22
In-air Collision Foul Frequency: 75

USER:

User Steal Ability: 44
User Interception Ability: 35
User Shot Block Ability: 0
User Dunk/Lay-up Block Ability: 5
User Freestyle Effectiveness: 45
User Dunk vs. Lay-up Frequency: 30
User Substitution Frequency: 50
User On-ball Defense Assist: 42
User Offensive Rebounding: 40
User Defensive Rebounding: 75
User Fakeout Discipline: 100
User Short Range Shooting: 50
User Medium Range Shooting: 50
User Long Range Shooting: 50
User Dunk Percentage: 50
User Lay-up Percentage: 50
User Adjusted Shot Percentage: 50
User On-ball Defense: 50
User Poor Release Shot Percent: 50
User Double-team Effectiveness: 50
User Pro Hop Effectiveness: 30
User Drop Step Effectiveness: 50

CPU:

CPU Steal Ability: 28
CPU Interception Ability: 9
CPU Shot Block Ability: 0
CPU Dunk/Lay-up Block Ability: 5
CPU Freestyle Effectiveness: 40 ※ I'm 06 Fix -> 50 ※
CPU Dunk Frequency: 30
CPU Substitution Frequency: 50
CPU Offensive Rebounding: 40
CPU Defensive Rebounding: 75
CPU Fakeout Discipline: 50
CPU Short Range Shooting: 50
CPU Medium Range Shooting: 50
CPU Long Range Shooting: 50
CPU Dunk Percentage: 50
CPU Lay-up Percentage: 50
CPU Adjusted Shot Percentage: 50
CPU Adjusted Shot Frequency: 50
CPU On-ball Physical Defense: 33
CPU Poor Release Shot Percent: 50
CPU Double-team Effectiveness: 50
CPU Pro Hop Effectiveness: 50
CPU Drop Step Effectiveness: 50


PS. Roster Slider ... Always Thanks ... Andrew


R THESE THE NLSC OR ONES FROM ANDREW?
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Postby aylmer1981 on Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:01 am

those r from last year aint gonna be the same
and shouldnt be
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Postby Basic_Black on Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:46 pm

Hi Guys,

I'm new to this forum but have been playing NBA Live for years. I still am not able to figure how the Slider work. I was just wandering if there is any documentation that defines all the setting in the Slider menu. I am going to start a new Season and I am pretty good in ALL-STAR. I am looking to move up to Superstar but the computer also blows me away in the 4th quarter. I was just wandering if there is a way to make the computer play a realistic game.

Thanks in advance for everyone suggestions
BB
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Postby Andrew on Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:08 pm

aylmer1981 wrote:are we getting a NLSC official sliders this year?


Sure, in time.

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They're my suggestions for NBA Live 2005. And just to clarify, the "NLSC Sliders" and "Andrew's Sliders" are one and the same.
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Postby aylmer1981 on Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:12 pm

Andrew I love those sliders you make, that is the only ones i use. I dont start a dynasty until it comes out. Thanks a lot for taking your time do that and everything else, appreciate it.
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