IGN rates NBA Live 06 on XBox 360

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Postby Cyaneyes on Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:02 am

When it comes to the animations, you'll definitely see some exciting plays, from alley-oops to windmill slams. Steve Nash will even throw the occasional behind-the-back pass on a break, but with the loss of Superstar moves, it's no longer up to you when you want the flash or the cash, and it's a loss of control I can't believe was taken out of the game. There are still some breathtaking moves in there, especially when you see someone like Vince Carter swoop in for a tip slam and throw it down over the defense. NBA fans will also see a lot of signature shots in the game, including The Matrix's ugly form from behind the arc, but I'll take control over contextual animations anyday.

I don't take him seriously since EA did an intelligent move removing those stupid and unbalanced Superstar Moves. NBA Live 05 was way better because of that, apart from the offensive rebounds thing.

Live 06 is so arcadish for my taste and SS moves have a lot to do with it.

But well, getting rid of Dinasty mode, 3-pt and dunk contests, etc, is not a smart move after all.

TeamXbox gave Live 360.., 8.1 -graphics are outstanding-. Link:

http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/10 ... ive-06/p1/
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Postby mikemach on Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:30 am

How can some of you Tools even say it sucks or is the greatest game out there if you haven't had anytime with it? Pretty much your talking out your ass with nothing to validate it, except from the IGN review and that's it. He even said the gameplay and looks are there plus the sound. The little things that he enjoys so much didn't make it in and its his way of saying stop rushing shit out EA. That's a fair statement that he shows but to say 2k6 owns it on the new console and when its only a fucking port with Antialising added is funny hearing. I'd say wait until you actually can play it and see what its like. Hell most of the crybabies in hear complain about the arcade's feel and this reviewer actually said the game is slowed down and more of a Sim feeling game. He actually goes onto say that's what he has always liked about the Live series that it is more like a pick up arcade game instead of a Sim. Then this takes me to the next whiner of the week the "I'm actually broke and can't get one so it fucking sucks guy's" When one of your boy's gets a hold of one of the new boxes actually take the time and try it to see what it plays like. Carry on tools. :lol:
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Postby black man on Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:54 am

That ign review is garbage to me because the most positive and most important thing about the game, the gameplay, was the least covered. IGN actually gave NBA Live props unintentionally, it seems. Strip the gimmicks and give me a solid sim, I'm good. The only thing ign hated about the gameplay was the speed (not arcadey) and the lack of superstar controls (very arcadey). If the fun factor is what you're after, go with that ign review. I liked the teamxbox review more because it SEEMED unbiased and gave some insight into the meat of the game.

From teamxbox:

I could live with the lack of Freestyle Superstar if the rest of the gameplay in NBA Live 06 was next-gen perfect, but it ain’t quite at that level yet. Make no mistake about it: NBA Live 06 is a damn fine hoop game, but you can kind of tell that EA ran out of time to take this one to the next level.

On a positive note, NBA Live 06 feels more like a pro hoops contest than its competition. Players are more aggressive, more likely to be lone rangers on the court, and high-flying to say the least. There’s a fair amount of contact in NBA Live 06, both in the paint and on the perimeter in D-up situations, which has been pulled off virtually perfectly.


The fact that both reviews are almost two different extremes, they agree, in a way, that this game is more sim-like. I'm about ready to crack my PS2 version cause its so unrealistic...fun, but unrealistic.

Honestly, you shouldn't put too much into the reviews though. Try it out and see for yourself. But if the game is more sim like than the current gen, I'll be the first in line to purchase.
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Postby flipz on Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:50 pm

i like this review much better (Y)
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Postby Solid Wing on Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:04 pm

look at alotta stuff they took outta madden, which was just crazy..I mean come on, its ridiculous. But I did see that loading screen of d. wade shooting balls and the "under construction" sign or whatever it was, and then everything went back into the ground and like 3 seconds later it was at the heat arena..it was nice
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Postby trecenters on Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:54 pm

I didn't expect the gameplay to be any better... I don't know why anyone would.

If you want to see the loading screen just search for 169_nbalive06_om_x360_102605_qt.rar in google and download a video. Its impressive that it loads a game under a game.

I don't see how it gets a 5.9 people need to research more and see what more people think.

2k6 fans are annoying as hell im really glad I found a forum for live fans.

Heres is this post in the 2k6 forum if you want something to roll youre eyes to.
http://www.2ksports.com/forums/showthre ... ec&t=67395 :roll:
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Postby J@3 on Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:26 pm

mikemach wrote:How can some of you Tools even say it sucks or is the greatest game out there if you haven't had anytime with it? Pretty much your talking out your ass with nothing to validate it, except from the IGN review and that's it. He even said the gameplay and looks are there plus the sound. The little things that he enjoys so much didn't make it in and its his way of saying stop rushing shit out EA. That's a fair statement that he shows but to say 2k6 owns it on the new console and when its only a fucking port with Antialising added is funny hearing. I'd say wait until you actually can play it and see what its like. Hell most of the crybabies in hear complain about the arcade's feel and this reviewer actually said the game is slowed down and more of a Sim feeling game. He actually goes onto say that's what he has always liked about the Live series that it is more like a pick up arcade game instead of a Sim. Then this takes me to the next whiner of the week the "I'm actually broke and can't get one so it fucking sucks guy's" When one of your boy's gets a hold of one of the new boxes actually take the time and try it to see what it plays like. Carry on tools. :lol:


I'll put $5 on a big "what the fuck?" for this one.

but to say 2k6 owns it on the new console and when its only a fucking port with Antialising added is funny hearing.


You haven't played it either so how would you know whether 2K6 is better than it on the new consoles or not? Actually reading your post, it's one big contradiction. You start by calling people tools for forming opinions based on a review without playing a game, then you go and form an opinion based on the review while occassionally throwing in "just wait until you play it" and something about peoples "boys" getting the new box. Strange.
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Postby Bang on Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:39 pm

mikemach wrote:How can some of you Tools even say it sucks or is the greatest game out there if you haven't had anytime with it? Pretty much your talking out your ass with nothing to validate it, except from the IGN review and that's it. He even said the gameplay and looks are there plus the sound. The little things that he enjoys so much didn't make it in and its his way of saying stop rushing shit out EA. That's a fair statement that he shows but to say 2k6 owns it on the new console and when its only a fucking port with Antialising added is funny hearing. I'd say wait until you actually can play it and see what its like. Hell most of the crybabies in hear complain about the arcade's feel and this reviewer actually said the game is slowed down and more of a Sim feeling game. He actually goes onto say that's what he has always liked about the Live series that it is more like a pick up arcade game instead of a Sim. Then this takes me to the next whiner of the week the "I'm actually broke and can't get one so it fucking sucks guy's" When one of your boy's gets a hold of one of the new boxes actually take the time and try it to see what it plays like. Carry on tools. :lol:


Doh...how many ways can you say "No Franchise"? As far as I'm concerned, 90% of the time I play Live I play Franchise mode!
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Postby TR4 on Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:06 am

I will wait for EA to make 2007 good on the 360. I should have the 360 by then.
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Postby mikemach on Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:54 am

Jae wrote:
mikemach wrote:How can some of you Tools even say it sucks or is the greatest game out there if you haven't had anytime with it? Pretty much your talking out your ass with nothing to validate it, except from the IGN review and that's it. He even said the gameplay and looks are there plus the sound. The little things that he enjoys so much didn't make it in and its his way of saying stop rushing shit out EA. That's a fair statement that he shows but to say 2k6 owns it on the new console and when its only a fucking port with Antialising added is funny hearing. I'd say wait until you actually can play it and see what its like. Hell most of the crybabies in hear complain about the arcade's feel and this reviewer actually said the game is slowed down and more of a Sim feeling game. He actually goes onto say that's what he has always liked about the Live series that it is more like a pick up arcade game instead of a Sim. Then this takes me to the next whiner of the week the "I'm actually broke and can't get one so it fucking sucks guy's" When one of your boy's gets a hold of one of the new boxes actually take the time and try it to see what it plays like. Carry on tools. :lol:


I'll put $5 on a big "what the fuck?" for this one.

but to say 2k6 owns it on the new console and when its only a fucking port with Antialising added is funny hearing.


You haven't played it either so how would you know whether 2K6 is better than it on the new consoles or not? Actually reading your post, it's one big contradiction. You start by calling people tools for forming opinions based on a review without playing a game, then you go and form an opinion based on the review while occassionally throwing in "just wait until you play it" and something about peoples "boys" getting the new box. Strange.



Actually Jae I have played both games now for at least 4 hrs. last night and I will give you my honest opinion. NBA Live is beautiful to look at but the gameplay feels like you are running in 3 ft. of mud. I took the speed meter all the way up to 99 and it improved the game somewhat. The thing I don't like as much is the fact that when you are on the perimeter it zooms in on the player then you can't see the fucking baseline. The camera views are OK but a little far from the action.

Now for NBA2K6. The games looks are a little less than Live but really not that much. The pants and shirt movements is cool as hell. You will actually see it in this game and the shirts will show sweat after a qtr or 2. The gameplay to me was way better and I have been a Live fan for years and always hated the speed of 2K6 but it wins easy here. The whole game just feels and plays better than Live. I played 5 games on each against other people and 2k6 came out on top for me. I ended up buying 2k6 and keep the Live to but I already feel it will catch dust really quick. If your wondering how the hell I got to do this I have a friend who is the Manager at our local EB Games and after closing last night we played the kiosk for a few hrs. :lol: The Perfect Dark Zero game is sweet and the Project Gotham game is one of the best Driving games I've ever played. I play Nascar 2k4 PC and Fiat GTR and it hangs with them.

I think you guys will miss the extra stuff Live left out and like I said in past post I just play in season mode and thats it. The NBA2K6 will get a bunch on Live converts after this release I'm willing to bet. Live is not bad at all it just felt like it wasn't done. Kinda like when you download a beta in progress game. I will still give it a chance and play some seasons but I just didn't like the speed of the game at all.
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Postby Dman1224 on Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:05 am

F*&$ what IGN had to said, I'm still going to buy it

-I don't play franchise mode
-All star weekend is gettin old
-I love the graphics
-Gameplay is O.K.

I also will get NBA 2K6
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Postby Cyaneyes on Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:06 am

I will get both games too. The thing is, NBA 06 looks like a beta test, no matter the version (Xbox, PC or X360).

Imho, EA thought; "Ok, we are going to test this out, we will create a game for Xbox, GC, PC and so on with SS moves, releasing the game with no updated rosters and see what happens. Then we will wait and work hard with the X360, removing those damn SS moves... Most people did not like them, and we are not sure if it is an improvement".

So Live 06 is a transition and an inclonclusively game
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Postby black man on Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:15 am

mikemach wrote:
Jae wrote:
mikemach wrote:How can some of you Tools even say it sucks or is the greatest game out there if you haven't had anytime with it? Pretty much your talking out your ass with nothing to validate it, except from the IGN review and that's it. He even said the gameplay and looks are there plus the sound. The little things that he enjoys so much didn't make it in and its his way of saying stop rushing shit out EA. That's a fair statement that he shows but to say 2k6 owns it on the new console and when its only a fucking port with Antialising added is funny hearing. I'd say wait until you actually can play it and see what its like. Hell most of the crybabies in hear complain about the arcade's feel and this reviewer actually said the game is slowed down and more of a Sim feeling game. He actually goes onto say that's what he has always liked about the Live series that it is more like a pick up arcade game instead of a Sim. Then this takes me to the next whiner of the week the "I'm actually broke and can't get one so it fucking sucks guy's" When one of your boy's gets a hold of one of the new boxes actually take the time and try it to see what it plays like. Carry on tools. :lol:


I'll put $5 on a big "what the fuck?" for this one.

but to say 2k6 owns it on the new console and when its only a fucking port with Antialising added is funny hearing.


You haven't played it either so how would you know whether 2K6 is better than it on the new consoles or not? Actually reading your post, it's one big contradiction. You start by calling people tools for forming opinions based on a review without playing a game, then you go and form an opinion based on the review while occassionally throwing in "just wait until you play it" and something about peoples "boys" getting the new box. Strange.



Actually Jae I have played both games now for at least 4 hrs. last night and I will give you my honest opinion. NBA Live is beautiful to look at but the gameplay feels like you are running in 3 ft. of mud. I took the speed meter all the way up to 99 and it improved the game somewhat. The thing I don't like as much is the fact that when you are on the perimeter it zooms in on the player then you can't see the fucking baseline. The camera views are OK but a little far from the action.

Now for NBA2K6. The games looks are a little less than Live but really not that much. The pants and shirt movements is cool as hell. You will actually see it in this game and the shirts will show sweat after a qtr or 2. The gameplay to me was way better and I have been a Live fan for years and always hated the speed of 2K6 but it wins easy here. The whole game just feels and plays better than Live. I played 5 games on each against other people and 2k6 came out on top for me. I ended up buying 2k6 and keep the Live to but I already feel it will catch dust really quick. If your wondering how the hell I got to do this I have a friend who is the Manager at our local EB Games and after closing last night we played the kiosk for a few hrs. :lol: The Perfect Dark Zero game is sweet and the Project Gotham game is one of the best Driving games I've ever played. I play Nascar 2k4 PC and Fiat GTR and it hangs with them.

I think you guys will miss the extra stuff Live left out and like I said in past post I just play in season mode and thats it. The NBA2K6 will get a bunch on Live converts after this release I'm willing to bet. Live is not bad at all it just felt like it wasn't done. Kinda like when you download a beta in progress game. I will still give it a chance and play some seasons but I just didn't like the speed of the game at all.
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On the current gen Live, I play with a game speed of 37. Is the speed for the 360 version comparable to this? I just tend to side more on realism than fun, so I can live with a slower paced game.

I will pick up 2k as well, but I'm obviously more concerned with Live.
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Postby mikemach on Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:24 am

The default setting was on 45 or 50 and I'm not kidding it feels like 2k6 slowed down to about 20. I noticed it the very first time down the court. I played 1qtr. and had to change it because it was way to slow for me. I play Live on 45 speed on my PC and Xbox version. It's nothing compared to the regular XBOX speed. Several guy's agreed with me. Don't laugh but what it reminds me of is bullet time like in Max Payne granted its not that slow but it is really dumbed down.
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Postby Playmakers on Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:39 am

I wouldn't make too much of that review because they knocked the game for not including some features that most guy's called the game arcadey for having like Free-Style Super Stars, Race track gamespeed and on the side dunk contest when they felt like EA should have put in more work on gameplay and graphics.

Now, EA works on gameplay and graphics takes away a few things that people complained about in the past and they get ripped. Bottom line is IGN is one review I've read other reviews that love the game so it basically comes down to personal opinion.

I could post a link for a review that hypes the game up but it's not worth it because ultimatley noene of the reviews mean much unless you've played the game for yourself.
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Postby Cyaneyes on Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:45 am

Playmakers wrote:I could post a link for a review that hypes the game up but it's not worth it because ultimatley noene of the reviews mean much unless you've played the game for yourself.

You truly aroused my curiosity... :)
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Postby Laxation on Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:10 am

wow im so happy that EA spent literally months taking pics of arenas to put in the game. i for one really look forward to analysing the arenas i am playing in, making sure every single detail is right there, and never actually take the time to PLAY the game. playing a computer game is so immature and stupid.

and FINALLY we get to see the proper freethrow animations. this is really soemthing that has been missing from previous lives, i just dont enjoy going to the line without seeing some actual freethrow routines. i even quit the game sometimes when i get fouled taking a shot because i just cant stand to see such a travesty going on.

i sure cant wait to see the players hair moving :shock: that is going to add so many new dimensions to the game

and now that the camera is intentionally missing parts of the action, i think i am going to cum in my pants whenever i play this game. its going to be so exciting to see the camera fuck up and zoom to something completely different. that wont be annoying at all.

a big thumbs up to EA for live 06 on 360, it really seems they finally have their priorities in order.
hopefully in 2007 we can get indepth looks at the undersides of the seats, and maybe even we can have a camera that doesnt even watch the game, and just the croud. so you need to play just with sound... that would be awesome
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Postby mikemach on Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:17 am

Laxation wrote:wow im so happy that EA spent literally months taking pics of arenas to put in the game. i for one really look forward to analysing the arenas i am playing in, making sure every single detail is right there, and never actually take the time to PLAY the game. playing a computer game is so immature and stupid.

and FINALLY we get to see the proper freethrow animations. this is really soemthing that has been missing from previous lives, i just dont enjoy going to the line without seeing some actual freethrow routines. i even quit the game sometimes when i get fouled taking a shot because i just cant stand to see such a travesty going on.

i sure cant wait to see the players hair moving :shock: that is going to add so many new dimensions to the game

and now that the camera is intentionally missing parts of the action, i think i am going to cum in my pants whenever i play this game. its going to be so exciting to see the camera fuck up and zoom to something completely different. that wont be annoying at all.

a big thumbs up to EA for live 06 on 360, it really seems they finally have their priorities in order.
hopefully in 2007 we can get indepth looks at the undersides of the seats, and maybe even we can have a camera that doesnt even watch the game, and just the croud. so you need to play just with sound... that would be awesome


I actually saw a players sports shorts when he ran up for a rebound and jumped. We where like WTF was that? 2K6 didn't leave much out. You also forgot to say that it sucks playing in the mud and not on a court. :wink: The game isn't that bad though so don't get to pissed off until you get to try it out. It's like a lot of games when a new engine comes out it takes some time to get used to I guess.
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Postby Laxation on Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:22 am

i think you completely missed my point

they have wasted all their time/money/whatever on all this bullshit, yet have managed to skip on allstar weekend and the dynasty mode - what makes the game GOOD

cyaneyes got it right when he said this is just like a beta.
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Postby mikemach on Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:41 am

I didn't miss your point and I stated it felt like a beta. It's just not as bad as you are saying. The game is sweet its just not going to blow alot of people away. 2K6 will come out on top on this go around and it should even if it is pretty much a port but it still beats Live IMHO.
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Postby flipz on Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:18 pm

i havent played either the next gen versions of both games, on my current gen, my speed is 37 and even sometimes i think dats too fast, my team is NETS so i think its realistic for me...ppl like having gamespeed to like 70 :shock: , i think the slowed gamespeed makes sim players like me more happy (Y)
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Postby havasufalls on Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:21 pm

i read all of the reviews and this entire post and I cant say that im happy that there is no allstarweekend, dynasty mode, and freestyle superstars but those are all things for me that i can live without(for now).

I never bother with allstar weekend so that is no big deal.

I do play dynasty but i play all 82 games and after i win it all i start another one with a different team(last week i finished my 82games with NJN and the playoffs in which i played every game and have yet to even check out the finals MVP because now im 11 games into my ATL dynasty).

As far as freestyle superstars yea its nice to have the highflyers on the break dunkin on people but the only moves i really use are some of the passes and the post up fade away moves. I will definitely miss these moves but that wont make or breake the game IMO.

Wit the thought of a realistic lookin game and decent game play thats enough for me for EA's first time around. I hear some flaws with the gameplay but there isnt a sports game on the market that doesnt have flaws in it. For most people live missin these features will make them steer clear of it which is cool cause if thats wat u want and u know ur not gonna get it then this game isnt for u its that simple but for me its enough for now.
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Postby hipn on Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:42 pm

havasufalls wrote:i read all of the reviews and this entire post and I cant say that im happy that there is no allstarweekend, dynasty mode, and freestyle superstars but those are all things for me that i can live without(for now).

I never bother with allstar weekend so that is no big deal.

I do play dynasty but i play all 82 games and after i win it all i start another one with a different team(last week i finished my 82games with NJN and the playoffs in which i played every game and have yet to even check out the finals MVP because now im 11 games into my ATL dynasty).

As far as freestyle superstars yea its nice to have the highflyers on the break dunkin on people but the only moves i really use are some of the passes and the post up fade away moves. I will definitely miss these moves but that wont make or breake the game IMO.

Wit the thought of a realistic lookin game and decent game play thats enough for me for EA's first time around. I hear some flaws with the gameplay but there isnt a sports game on the market that doesnt have flaws in it. For most people live missin these features will make them steer clear of it which is cool cause if thats wat u want and u know ur not gonna get it then this game isnt for u its that simple but for me its enough for now.


No All-Star Weekend mean no All-Satr game. There are problems with the camera angles and the camera zoomign system. I have to admit, NBA 2k6 seems like a better game than nba live 06 on the 360.
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Postby J@3 on Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:37 pm

Actually Jae I have played both games now for at least 4 hrs. last night and I will give you my honest opinion. NBA Live is beautiful to look at but the gameplay feels like you are running in 3 ft. of mud. I took the speed meter all the way up to 99 and it improved the game somewhat. The thing I don't like as much is the fact that when you are on the perimeter it zooms in on the player then you can't see the fucking baseline. The camera views are OK but a little far from the action.


You've played Live and 2K6 on the 360? How so?
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Postby mikemach on Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:03 pm

Like I said I have a friend at our local EB Games and last night we played pretty much all the releases they had opened for trail. We played 5 games each on Live and 2k6 and then some Perfect Dark Zero split screen which was fun and the game looks incredible. Then we played some Project Gotham 3 which was freaking great. I wish I could have played Madden one of my favorite games.. Like I said the Live was really cool and I was enjoying it quite a bit then we threw in 2K6 and it won me over. We where playing 2k6 on Hall of Fame difficulty playing against one another. It felt and looked like a actual game going on screen. The Live game just felt sluggish and slowed to much. We tweaked it some on the sliders and it helped out a lot. The free throw thing in Live is really hard to do because you don't really know how to judge your input. I think I was like 4 for 15 from the line on Live :oops: You can also run 2k6 at 1080i and Live is only 780p and I will be running it on a 62" Mitsubishi 1080p DLP set so it should really look nice. Trust me Jae I have hated 2k6 the last couple of years and have played hundreds of games on Live on my PC. I don't post much here and might look like a noob here because I have been a lurker around here forever. I usually just read and download but I wanted to get involved with the discussions on the 360. Hope this clears it up.
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