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by **starbury36** on Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:49 pm

its looking real ill right now i jus hope that they cahnge only 1 defense nd 1 offense superstar thing, cuz real talented guards liek jamal crawford of the knicks can dunk nd pass crazy,or joe johnson od the suns he cna dunk shoot pass so besides that evrythings lookin real,atleast regarding the superstars :mrgreen:

by **PinoyIDOL** on Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:47 pm

GREAT! TWO THUMBS UP!

Now who is not buying this game?? It's going to ROCK THE BASKETBALL gamers..

by **J@3** on Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:54 pm

PinoyIdle wrote:Why some of us are like concluding ahead while ALL the improvements for the game were NOT even release yet..

by **VexxatuVexx** on Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:13 pm

Tmac_2.5 wrote:thx man...finally wade got he's shoes ...what ever the graphics look great

Yeah they look better then somewhat expected (Y)

by **beau_boy04** on Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:04 pm

This article worries me because they are some players who could have more than one set of offensive and defensive sets. I give the perfect example > Dirk Nowitzi! this guy shoots above 45% from the field, above 40% from beyond and almost 90% from the foul line. That makes him a inside scorer and an outside scorer as well and also a shooter. Those are 3 offensive superstar sets. And according to the review you can only limit one set for offense and defense per player.

by **Fenix** on Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:13 pm

"It's not like you can change reality and make Yao a Playmaker and Nash an Inside Stopper, but if there is a player like Wade or Kobe or LeBron who can do more than one thing, it will be up to each gamer as how they want them to perform."

You probably can have a player with various offensive superstar sets.

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:07 pm

Thanks for the link kp4life. (Y)

While I remain cautiously optimistic about the power of Freestyle Superstars, that articles does make the feature sound a lot more promising. I like the fact we'll be able to (in effect) decide how a multi-talented superstar playing is going to play by choosing which special moves he can perform, and that a player can have both offensive and defensive superstar moves. It's a shame we can't mix and match though, say have Wade throwing the playmaker passes but also being able to take advantage of the high flyer moves.

Screens look nice to me, especially Wade's dunk.

by **skillzthatkillz** on Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:19 pm

ive never seen wade dunk on anyone though.

by **Carmo** on Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:53 pm

skillzthatkillz wrote:ive never seen wade dunk on anyone though.

i saw him do pretty much the dunk in the picture posterising jermaine oneal

by **nicosantos76** on Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:00 am

I'm not worried about the players not wearing the right shoes, first of all beacuse the game isn't finished yet and those little details are (i guess) the last thing to be done and second because while playing the game I don't find the time to be watching if the player is wearing the right shoes or not, I'll go even further I don't have a clue what kinda shoes each player wears in real life anyways.
Graphics do look OK and I'm not really interested in having superb detailed graphics, I just want EA to focus on the gameplay, bring back the In game saving, bring back the Create a Team option, and that's it. There's so much to be done in terms of gameplay I can't understand why some guys are so worried about players wearing the right shoes (Shoes!!!!, next time someone is gonna complain about David Robinson abscense in the crowd while San Antonio playin at home, come on).
I really hope gameplay will be improved, they have to work on spacing and defenders not getting his assigned man so fast after doubleteaming on someone else, lower the blocks, etc... I'm still worried about the game not getting to arcadie with all this superstar freestyle stuff.

by **zmac** on Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:04 am

Alcoholic wrote:Man.. but isn't over the back illegal..?

They can never get Kobe right!!

I agree on the Kobe thing.....but wat do u mean by "isnt over the back illegal"?

Hes doin an around the back pass......

by **Do'** on Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:44 am

that is legal...!!!!

by **Heiks** on Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:04 am

zmac wrote:
Alcoholic wrote:Man.. but isn't over the back illegal..?

I agree on the Kobe thing.....but wat do u mean by "isnt over the back illegal"?

Hes doin an around the back pass......

not passing over the back, he's refering to the point about big ben rebounding over people's backs...

:roll:

by **gifted** on Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:12 am

Playmaker: (Nash, Ridnour) Pass the ball behind your back, over your head, and lead the fast break with no-look dimes.

I seriously hope we're going to able to fastbreak in the this game.

That's what Detroit-Basketball is all about, and it's finally being represented realistically in a videogame.

I was finally waiting for some representation of the actual team's play in the game, but I wasn't expecting it in a form like this. Hopefully they won't be too over powering and these Superstar types can be regulated in the same way the jump-step has been since 2003.

Inside Stopper: (Rasheed and Ben Wallace): Press L1 and block to swat the ball into the crowd.

This worries me. If even some players have this style, wouldn't this cause more blocks? I just hope EA fixes the blocking system overall.

by **Dreadnight** on Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:26 am

giftedvisionz wrote:
Inside Stopper: (Rasheed and Ben Wallace): Press L1 and block to swat the ball into the crowd.

This worries me. If even some players have this style, wouldn't this cause more blocks? I just hope EA fixes the blocking system overall.

This is what frightens me

by **Kbryant8** on Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:33 am

zmac wrote:
Alcoholic wrote:Man.. but isn't over the back illegal..?

They can never get Kobe right!!

I agree on the Kobe thing.....but wat do u mean by "isnt over the back illegal"?

Hes doin an around the back pass......

i agree,kobe is too off.
But that pass is legal.

by **PiksS** on Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:54 am

is that kobe or some black guy in kobes jersey

by **Raptorel** on Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:21 am

What I don't understand is why do you have to choose in player abilities? I mean, when a player plays a game, it's not like "hm... let me see what abilities I will be able to do in this game... I have to choose between passing good or dunking good...".

Let's be serious, in the real life it's not like you can suddenly pass great in this game then in the next game you suddenly can't, but you become a great dunker instead... this is bullshit. If the player is so gifted, he can do so many things, you don't have to choose them. So this is a big thumbs down in my oppinion (not that the superstar features aren't great).

by **Bang** on Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:33 am

Well it's easy why. It's because of the controls. It's L+face button. So imagine if you were a playmaker and a high flyer. If you pressed L+X what the hell would it do? Would it do a pass? or a dunk?

by **Raptorel** on Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:18 am

That's right, that was I was thinking but we can sort that out...

Like: You can tap rebound and that will do that thing (1)
You can hold rebound and that will do that thing (2)
You can tap steal and that will do that thing (3)
You can hold rebound and that will do that thing (4)

ETC ETC ETC

So for a 8 button gamepad, or even the keyboard (I'm talking about the PC version here) it shouldn't be that of a problem.

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:11 pm

I agree, which is why it would be good if you could mix and match the superstar moves for multi-talented/multi-dimensional players.

by **Heiks** on Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:59 pm

Dreadnight wrote:
giftedvisionz wrote:
Inside Stopper: (Rasheed and Ben Wallace): Press L1 and block to swat the ball into the crowd.

This worries me. If even some players have this style, wouldn't this cause more blocks? I just hope EA fixes the blocking system overall.

This is what frightens me

I guess that the only way to reduce the blocks would be more fouls by these guys (Big and agressive guys are always in foultrouble, aren't they?). More fouls would ofcourse mean less minutes, etc. I guess it would work and keep us from trying to block every shot. And there should definetly be a slider to modify the effectivnes of the Superstar Moves.

Kbryant8 wrote:
zmac wrote:
Alcoholic wrote:Man.. but isn't over the back illegal..?

http://sportsmedia.ign.com/sports/image/article/633/633510/nba-live-superstars-20050714101109363-000.jpg

They can never get Kobe right!!

I agree on the Kobe thing.....but wat do u mean by "isnt over the back illegal"?

Hes doin an around the back pass......

i agree,kobe is too off.
But that pass is legal.

For the last time, he was talking about rebounding over people's backs not passing...

:roll:

by **BrotherJRB** on Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:54 pm

Is there going to be a new camera angle? I saw the same crappy one on the vids...

Is the superstar thing really new? All it is is ratings based abilities, hasn't that been in the game for years? Don't get me wrong I am glad to see these options in the game and it will certainly increase gameplay fun but I don't know how revolutionary it will be.....anybody remember the dunk packages? or if a dribble rating was at a certain rate he could crossover and do more elaborate moves....nothing against this feature but if this is all we are getting I will be a bit disappointed.

If NBA Live really wanted players to play like they do in real life, how about adding real NBA offenses. Then guys like Rip Hamilton would curl off screens hitting mid range J's. Sheed would set a pick and fade to the three point line....Chauncy Billups would post up....If Live wants to represent how these star players play they should put them in the correct positions on the court!

by **beau_boy04** on Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:58 pm

I totally agreed with the guy who posted above me. This whole superstar moves is just full of sh*t if you think about it. They are they saying the superstar moves are based on abilities and skills. Well think about it guys .....

- a player with 95 dunking and 90+ jumping is assigned a dunk package and is capable of doing dunks a player with 80 is not able to.

- same goes to the playmaker thingy, a player with 90+ in passing and dribble is able to do make more accurate passes than others ranked lower than 90 in those categories.

And the story goes on and on....

by **FanOfAll** on Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:19 pm

Nice screens. Interesting feature to put into a game. What concerns me is the fact that some players shouldn't have a defensive/offensive superstar rating. Others should have multiple superstar offensive abilities. Ben Wallace isn't really "power" like Amare, he dunks it, but he isn't posterizing people left and right like Swift or Amare. AI gets a lot of steals, but he is far from a great defender, let alone good defender. The wear has definitely gotten to him and he's not the same defender. These also make me question if EA watches the NBA:

Rasheed (Inside Stopper, Inside Scorer)

Prince (Inside Stopper)

Rasheed does his damage from the perimeter and Prince is a very good perimeter defender, not post defender...

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