Talk about NBA Live 06 here.
Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:50 pm
johnnyboy wrote:fun: 8/10
gameplay realistic: 3/10
gameplay: 7/10
NBA stats: 4/10
level of standard compare to other similar games in the market: 8/10
I'd sort of agree with that... only I'd have gameplay = 5, and the last one would be 1/10. NBA 2K6 is king. So I hear.
Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:38 am
j.23 wrote: 
you pretty much lost all credibility there
lol, graphics come second to gameplay,if not i woulda got 2k
Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:52 am
This is hands down the best NBA Live game I've played. Some people hate the FSS but I love how they actually seperate themselves from other players this year. Shot blockers have some of the best animations I've ever seen. If you find yourself a good set sliders this game is very solid. I've played it non stop since it's release and still enjoy it because each team plays different if you input the Playbooks from playmakers thread. I would rate the game an 8.5 out of 10 overall.
Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:52 pm
Too much flashy dunking in the game. You dont see people pulling off reverse windwills 5 times in a game. I personally would prefer they work on more layup variations (not alot of rucker park layups) and make the dunks less flashy to add to the realism. Maybe if a player was really, really hot, then the thingy would glow and you would be able to pull off one of those flashy dunks (about once or twice a game).
Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:56 pm
If you lower your Dunk/Layup Slider, and download alexmary's aiact.viv, there seems to be much less flashy dunks, both normally and for the FSS moves. It's excellent, IMO.
Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:00 pm
I have that patch and it did help somewhat. Only problem I see is that everybody seemingly can pull off one-handed alley-oops and stuff. I would love it if EA just kept it simple. Some moves in the game are just too fancy.
Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:08 pm
I haven't noticed any change in alley-oops, which is unfortunate. I don't really go for them incredibly often, but I was hoping to replace some of the weird alley-oop layups with possibly some other alley-oop passing animations.
I'm with you on the fancy moves, though. I think they should be done randomly for players who have great stats, instead of one of the simpler one/two handed dunk/layups, the same way the behind the back toss over the head happens upon contact sometimes.
Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:57 am
This game sucks big time!! it makes me wanna throw my cpu on the ground.
the graphics are good, but that's it. Gameplay is horrendous. It's far from being a basketball simulation, all players can't move like they're playing basketball. what's up with those crossovers where the guard appear to be choking and travelling with the ball which makes him step out of bounds everytime we're close to the line. Not to mention the constant bouncing bodies. The defender sticks with you everytime, which would be ok if the offense dribbles were not so freaking SLOW !! If I raise the game speed slider, then it looks like a hockey game. - And why do centers shoot like that? it's like i'm watching a replay of a normal shot. What about the high jumping? Almost any player can touch the rim with his head when going for a simple rebound.
Players can't adjust to a certain situation, they go for a layup and throw it on the backboard A LOT. I'm not even gonna mention the excessive offensive rebounds and 3 sec in the key. What about when a small guard like brevin knight shoots right in front of a big center and does NOT get blocked?!? they fixed the previous blocking problem too much. But the worse thing is the passing system. Sometimes I can imagine a kids baloon being handled. The ball has NO WEIGHT!! I hate those frequent high arcing SLOW passes, that make the opponent slowly steal the ball like he's stretching before gym.
It's so ironic that Wade is the cover boy and we can't perform his trademark two-step spinning move to the basket. The FSS are nothing but a good idea, they should put a lot of work into that. I think the programming team is so worried about selling their product, adding the "amazing" new features that they forget about watching REAL basketball games.
I can't believe i bought this piece of %&#. All the previous versions are much more fun. This one is so unnerving Ive already uninstalled it. And the worst part is: this is a monopoly, there's no competition within PC games. I'll have to wait and hope this year's version is better.
Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:36 pm
^^if u feel dat way bout the game then it must really suck wasting ur money on it, oh well
Sun Jan 08, 2006 4:43 am
bigh0rt wrote:TheGlove wrote:flipz wrote:TheGlove wrote:Well i like the game......but
I would really like to play a whole season 12 min quarters on superstar, but it is impossible to do with realistic stats, no matter how i will adjust the sliders it is just unreal. Lowering shooting increases rebounding to 70 rebounds per game with offensive rebounding set to 0, if i have an outside stoper i can have stealing set to 0 and still make 15 steals per game with him. These are just a couple of examples and people who tell not to use some feature cause it is buggy please do not offer that cause i do not want to play bball not doing this and that - it aint fun.
Finished one season with Cavs 10 min quarters just to complete a season, averaged 130 points and 20 steals per game just with James and Hughes
i play 12mins on superstar wit the Nets, and my stats are very realistic, maybe u should play ur bench more just like in real life, star
players get subbed too

Could be a solution if in my 40 minute games with the cavs James and Hughes would have not averaged just about 28 minutes, in real life such players play 40-45 mins a game. Of course if i play bench players more time i would score maybe 10-15 points less which still would be unrealistic, and finaly i like playing starters not benchmen:)
So you want realistic stats without playing realistic basketball, or playing a realistic rotation of 8-9 players...
...?
Sounds like you've made your bed of gripe, and now you either have to sleep in it or change a few things. We can peg a lot of things on EA, but not that.
Sounds wrong ! - I did not say i play only my starting 5 i play a 10 man rotation - James and Hughes were in it don't they suppose to play more time than bench players ? or should i force shots with benchmen just to make realistic stats ? by the way i only managed about 10 blocks with james in a season which is also pretty unrealistic (of course if i make block sliders higher Ilgauskas will block 10 per game)
Sun Jan 08, 2006 5:47 pm
The game is alright, but lots of things to improve on
1- playmaker= too much turnovers, doesnt have an advantage over normal passers they just do more flashy un -needed moves
2- shooter- plain bad is the shooter superstar
3- waaaayyy to many blocks and steals to be realistic
4- ball gets stripped on shot in key
5- when the game came out the rosters aleady needed to be updated
6- maybe the most annoying thing is by far, all the missed lay-ups and dunks
i suggest 2k6 more features
Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:47 pm
FAsz wrote:
the problem is steal and interceptions are 2 easy .. I've turned down sliders to 5 and I still have a lot of interception and steal ... ...
IS it gonna take them 20 years to fix this?
flipz wrote:Good Job EA for making this game , its gameplay is very underrated by these so called pro reviewers, but i feel like EA really listened to my gripes about the game and made it better, im a sim player and im getting very sim results, with my
team shooting 45.3% and 36.9% from downtown, im pleased

Maybe they just rigged the game, so stats come out realistically in sim mode. I'm sure they have like some sort of NBA stats comparison algorithm to ensure this.
FAsz wrote:live 06 is a good game , but he needs a lot of modification XD , ofcourse ea sliders sux, they know that fact , thats why they add sliders settings thats what I think about this XD , original jersey looks ... weird , thx to all the jersey's patchers for their works !!
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I get so sick of hearing about sliders. That is what makes the game less rated on my list. You shouldn't be forced to change the sliders or play a certain way to get a realistic style game. I mean if you're trying to play a realistic game you should get at least a close to realistic result. And if there are certain sliders that make the game better, why don't they chooose better default slider settings? Obviously if we have to change sliders and player ratings there is something wrong with the original game. These things should be done only to make minor changes to fit personal preferences.
Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:37 pm
Sonic98 wrote:FAsz wrote:
the problem is steal and interceptions are 2 easy .. I've turned down sliders to 5 and I still have a lot of interception and steal ... ...
IS it gonna take them 20 years to fix this?
flipz wrote:Good Job EA for making this game , its gameplay is very underrated by these so called pro reviewers, but i feel like EA really listened to my gripes about the game and made it better, im a sim player and im getting very sim results, with my
team shooting 45.3% and 36.9% from downtown, im pleased

Maybe they just rigged the game, so stats come out realistically in sim mode. I'm sure they have like some sort of NBA stats comparison algorithm to ensure this.
FAsz wrote:live 06 is a good game , but he needs a lot of modification XD , ofcourse ea sliders sux, they know that fact , thats why they add sliders settings thats what I think about this XD , original jersey looks ... weird , thx to all the jersey's patchers for their works !!
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I get so sick of hearing about sliders. That is what makes the game less rated on my list. You shouldn't be forced to change the sliders or play a certain way to get a realistic style game. I mean if you're trying to play a realistic game you should get at least a close to realistic result. And if there are certain sliders that make the game better, why don't they chooose better default slider settings? Obviously if we have to change sliders and player ratings there is something wrong with the original game. These things should be done only to make minor changes to fit personal preferences.
no game is perfect outta the box, the so called "simmest game"aint even close to sim in terms of gameplay,ya im talkin bout 2k6....sliders are made to be user friendly,not everyone likes playing wit the sonics,so its simple dont buy the game if it aint meeting ur standards
Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:05 pm
flipz wrote:Sonic98 wrote:FAsz wrote:
the problem is steal and interceptions are 2 easy .. I've turned down sliders to 5 and I still have a lot of interception and steal ... ...
IS it gonna take them 20 years to fix this?
flipz wrote:Good Job EA for making this game , its gameplay is very underrated by these so called pro reviewers, but i feel like EA really listened to my gripes about the game and made it better, im a sim player and im getting very sim results, with my
team shooting 45.3% and 36.9% from downtown, im pleased

Maybe they just rigged the game, so stats come out realistically in sim mode. I'm sure they have like some sort of NBA stats comparison algorithm to ensure this.
FAsz wrote:live 06 is a good game , but he needs a lot of modification XD , ofcourse ea sliders sux, they know that fact , thats why they add sliders settings thats what I think about this XD , original jersey looks ... weird , thx to all the jersey's patchers for their works !!
...
I get so sick of hearing about sliders. That is what makes the game less rated on my list. You shouldn't be forced to change the sliders or play a certain way to get a realistic style game. I mean if you're trying to play a realistic game you should get at least a close to realistic result. And if there are certain sliders that make the game better, why don't they chooose better default slider settings? Obviously if we have to change sliders and player ratings there is something wrong with the original game. These things should be done only to make minor changes to fit personal preferences.
no game is perfect outta the box, the so called "simmest game"aint even close to sim in terms of gameplay,ya im talkin bout 2k6....sliders are made to be user friendly,not everyone likes playing wit the sonics,so its simple dont buy the game if it aint meeting ur standards
Sonic, you're also making the assumption that everybody has the same idea of what is realistic, what is perfect, etc. Some people fall in love with Live fresh out the box; I guarantee it. Then there's others who like Slide Set A, others Set B, etc. etc. We have an entire several page thread dedicated to it here, and people still can't get together and find a specific set that everybody says is A Number 1. Different strokes for different folks, my man. If you don't like it, by all means, hop off the bandwagon, but don't make a fuss when you do it.
As for your gripe about stealing (well, your agreement with FASz about it)... if you have the sliders on 5, turn them down to 1, or 0, and if you're playing on lower than Superstar, bump up your level.
All I can say is that Live 06 is my favorite by far, it's the first I've played on PC (always played them via console from 95 all the way through), and all the great patches here has only improved my experience.
Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:06 pm
Again, play both games before making retarted judgements. 2K is more sim out of the box than Live.
Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:23 pm
The Other Kevin wrote:Again, play both games before making retarted judgements. 2K is more sim out of the box than Live.
I certainly hope you're not speaking to me. I, in fact, own both games for the PS2, and Live for PC as well, and I'm saying that I prefer Live for PC over them all. So if my judgements are 'retarded', you'll have to chalk it up to a difference in taste. However, I strongly suggest leaving your insults on the playground.
Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:53 pm
No, sorry, I'm talking to flipz, he has said before that he refuses to play 2K6 and still says o6 is better without tring 2K6.
Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:24 pm
The Other Kevin wrote:Again, play both games before making retarted judgements. 2K is more sim out of the box than Live.
Yeah but what does that have to with anything?
OK so you get a game that is more playable out the box. But eventually they both need tweaked in order to get the best gameplay.
I'm not going to bash 2K's game because that's a personal opinion as to who likes what games. But to say it's more SIM out the box doesn't say much because after playing 2K's game their are several tweaks that need to be mage just like EA's game.
I see C's in 2K defending PG's for an entire quarter that's not SIM if you ask me. I'm sure I could come up with a list of things wrong for both games right out the box but that's why they are video games they aren;t made perfect and depending on your style or preference either game could be labled that way.
Besides this is a Live forum and there has to be a reason why 99% of these guy's are here discussing Live and not 2K right?
That's like me going over to a 2K forum and talking about Live. What are the chances of me self promoting Live and having any influence on a 2K board?
Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:38 am
anyway, 2k fans enjoy ur 2K6 game and live fans will continue enjoying live06, u have a 2kboard to promote 2k6
Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:23 am
lapis wrote:I had to register just tell this flipz guy what a tard he is. First your copy of live must have come with crack, second why start a thread asking everyones opinion of live and then curse them out when they dissagree with you?
Ive been playing live since it was called lackers vs celtics but the only reason im playing live 06 is because its the only basketball game made for pc, id love to try 2k6. The last basketball game I played was 2k3 and gameplay wise i think it (a 3 year old game) was better than live.
Live isnt bad but there are a lot of really stupid little things wrong with it, which are the same things that were wrong with the last version of live i played (2000) which is sad to me.
There now you can start cursing at me flipz

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You did all that just to provoke a guy?
I read some of the replies not all of them but I have to agree with a few posters. I think Live is a very good game with adjustments made to gameplay (Sliders). As for 2K6 it's a very good game in it's own rights. But this thread was about Live and you guy's actually took it off track by bringing up 2K6's gameplay. The thread Title said nothing about 2K6 comparisons. As another poster stated this is a Live forum what did you expect the guy to do agree with the 2K6 comments by a few of you.
Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:06 pm
Topic's been split. Continue your reviews or whatever.
You can find the other half of the discussion
here.
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