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Where the F is the D?

Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:50 am

All we've seen is trick passes and dunks. Yeah we know you can dunk on people. again. and again. and again. and again. and again-well I see everybody dunking on everybody else, like Raymond Felton jumping over Dan Dickau like VC did in the olympics, and it seems we are missing something. DEFENSE :!:

How can Dwight Howard dunk on Shaq like that and Shaq do absolutely nothing about it? EA has to realize that there's got to be something to counter every gameplay addition in order to make a great game. Sure I like the dunking on and all that, but I don't want to be up 1 with the Bobcats and all of a sudden Earl Watson comes through the lane and dunks on Emeka Okafor. There's always something going on that we don't know about and I hope that there's some kind of defensive freestyle or something to counter all these offensive additions.

These dunking on people things should have a higher risk of missing since you are trying to jump over somebody and hammer it down. Unfortunately if they don't, Andrew might be busy changing all the dunk packages in the dbf lol.

Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:37 am

so u have seen ray allen making a shot in the video,does that means that no one will be able to block his shot? :roll: right

Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:42 am

point-guard wrote:so u have seen ray allen making a shot in the video,does that means that no one will be able to block his shot? :roll: right

Dawg, that's the next gen video. Is next-gen coming for PC in October? NO. PS2? NO. XBox? NO. In the Next-Gen commercial I didn't see Antonio Daniels jumping over Ben Wallace's head. Have you even seen any of the vids besides the commercial :?: :roll: Right now you can come to a consensus on some things in the console and pc version from the videos. You can't really say much about the next-gen cuz all we seen is a commercial that for all we know could be a big rendering.

Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:09 am

Ruff Ryder wrote:
point-guard wrote:so u have seen ray allen making a shot in the video,does that means that no one will be able to block his shot? :roll: right

Dawg, that's the next gen video. Is next-gen coming for PC in October? NO. PS2? NO. XBox? NO. In the Next-Gen commercial I didn't see Antonio Daniels jumping over Ben Wallace's head. Have you even seen any of the vids besides the commercial :?: :roll: Right now you can come to a consensus on some things in the console and pc version from the videos. You can't really say much about the next-gen cuz all we seen is a commercial that for all we know could be a big rendering.


That wasn't Daniels, it was Ray Allen...

Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:17 am

Unrestrict3D wrote:
Ruff Ryder wrote:
point-guard wrote:so u have seen ray allen making a shot in the video,does that means that no one will be able to block his shot? :roll: right

Dawg, that's the next gen video. Is next-gen coming for PC in October? NO. PS2? NO. XBox? NO. In the Next-Gen commercial I didn't see Antonio Daniels jumping over Ben Wallace's head. Have you even seen any of the vids besides the commercial :?: :roll: Right now you can come to a consensus on some things in the console and pc version from the videos. You can't really say much about the next-gen cuz all we seen is a commercial that for all we know could be a big rendering.


That wasn't Daniels, it was Ray Allen...


No what he was trying to do was make a comparsion from when Felton was dunking over everybody in that rookie video. And I have to agree, every since I saw that first video ever released for the actual game coming out in October, I knew there was going to be something wrong after seeing everyone getting dunked on and especially when I saw the rookie video with Felton.

Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:19 am

Unrestrict3D wrote:
Ruff Ryder wrote:
point-guard wrote:so u have seen ray allen making a shot in the video,does that means that no one will be able to block his shot? :roll: right

Dawg, that's the next gen video. Is next-gen coming for PC in October? NO. PS2? NO. XBox? NO. In the Next-Gen commercial I didn't see Antonio Daniels jumping over Ben Wallace's head. Have you even seen any of the vids besides the commercial :?: :roll: Right now you can come to a consensus on some things in the console and pc version from the videos. You can't really say much about the next-gen cuz all we seen is a commercial that for all we know could be a big rendering.


That wasn't Daniels, it was Ray Allen...

Did you even read what I wrote :?: "In the Next-Gen commercial I DIDN'T SEE Antonio Daniels jumping over Ben Wallace's head." Damn, wtf is up with some of you guys. I made no mention of Ray ALlen, and I knew Ray Allen was in the end of it, sheesh. I was making a point.

Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:39 am

They are only showing offense so far... they havent showed ANY blocks at all yet ... they probably made it so that shaq didnt jump in that play so everyone could see what dwight would do.

Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:09 am

Ruff Ryder wrote:
Unrestrict3D wrote:
Ruff Ryder wrote:
point-guard wrote:so u have seen ray allen making a shot in the video,does that means that no one will be able to block his shot? :roll: right

Dawg, that's the next gen video. Is next-gen coming for PC in October? NO. PS2? NO. XBox? NO. In the Next-Gen commercial I didn't see Antonio Daniels jumping over Ben Wallace's head. Have you even seen any of the vids besides the commercial :?: :roll: Right now you can come to a consensus on some things in the console and pc version from the videos. You can't really say much about the next-gen cuz all we seen is a commercial that for all we know could be a big rendering.


That wasn't Daniels, it was Ray Allen...

Did you even read what I wrote :?: "In the Next-Gen commercial I DIDN'T SEE Antonio Daniels jumping over Ben Wallace's head." Damn, wtf is up with some of you guys.


It's the usual rush of idiots whenever a new Live game comes out.

Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:53 pm

Relax dudes! There are 6 categories on the NEW SUPERSTAR mode and one of them is STOPPER (defense) and I guess there will be 2 types for the defense dep't. so stay cool and EA wud definitely release updates with rgds to Counter-DEFENSE for this SUPERSTAR moves..

:lol: :)

Sun Jul 03, 2005 8:57 pm

What was the biggest complaint of 2005? The slow passing and no fast breaks right? Expect 2006 to have fast passing and way too many fast breaks and worse defense. Count on it. They always take it to the extremes. Superstar system won't change much. Seriously, you think they'll make it harder for you to use that system? Of course not. You won't use it if defensive superstar usually wins. Would you have used the pro-hop in 2004 if it was as ineffective as in 2005? Of course not. Using this same logic, the Superstar system will be too effective and probably the game will be very offensive. History seems to dictate this...

Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:38 pm

Superstar Stopper Ability: Being able to swat anything within 10 feet of you.

Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:11 pm

Jae wrote:Superstar Stopper Ability: Being able to swat anything within 10 feet of you.

Hey, wasn't that in Live 04 and 05? :lol:

Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:25 pm

lol

Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:50 am

umm, ea understand basketball, and they know that offense sells. therefor all we will see if offense. personally i wanna know about the dynasty and stuff like that, but i guess i have to wait.

Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:11 pm

..........they're commercials for a game still in development, so they're just showing off highlights u fool. get 2 cents and figure it out.

Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:58 pm

clippertalk wrote:..........they're commercials for a game still in development, so they're just showing off highlights u fool. get 2 cents and figure it out.


Honestly, did you even need to say that. No, you didn't.

I'm hoping that the game won't be too offensive minded, because I still like going for the stop in a clutch game too. I find that more exciting sometimes. But of course the first thing they're going to do is show all the highlight dunks so everyone can oh and ah at them.

Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:50 am

clippertalk wrote:..........they're commercials for a game still in development, so they're just showing off highlights u fool. get 2 cents and figure it out.

I rather drop a buck down your throat and watch your ass pop quarters. :x

You must work for EA to know all of this stuff. Funny how ZERO of the rookies had a defensive highlight huh?

I know the game isn't done yet, and hopefully there will be D other than the super swat ability stuff.

Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:14 am

it does show felton stealing the ball, then dunking it

Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:49 pm

Ruff Ryder wrote:
clippertalk wrote:..........they're commercials for a game still in development, so they're just showing off highlights u fool. get 2 cents and figure it out.

I rather drop a buck down your throat and watch your ass pop quarters. :x


IF I dropped a buck down ur dumbarse, u'd probably pop out the wrong change.

Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:54 pm

FendeR` wrote:
clippertalk wrote:..........they're commercials for a game still in development, so they're just showing off highlights u fool. get 2 cents and figure it out.


Honestly, did you even need to say that. No, you didn't.

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Did I? U question me, but not the person who is making accertions of a game based on the earliest available commercials for it?

Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:54 am

clippertalk wrote:
Ruff Ryder wrote:
clippertalk wrote:..........they're commercials for a game still in development, so they're just showing off highlights u fool. get 2 cents and figure it out.

I rather drop a buck down your throat and watch your ass pop quarters. :x


IF I dropped a buck down ur dumbarse, u'd probably pop out the wrong change.

So you're not just stupid, but gay too :?: This guy wants to put money in my ass. What's wrong? You don't pay the gay strippers enough? Or is a dead pres your substitute for a dick?


Did I? U question me, but not the person who is making accertions of a game based on the earliest available commercials for it?

You're the one making smartass remarks and turning this thread into a flame war though. All that needs to be said is "The game is still in development, that could be a reason why you see no defense at the time." Not just blatantly calling names.. I'll question you, did you really need to call me a fool? No, you didn't. :shake:

Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:30 am

Ruff, in all fairness, you were the first to bring up his ass and money...

I agree with Clip, they are still very early previews, and the other categories haven't been disclosed yet. Do you really expect them to show the defensive side of the game in a highlight about the new flashy passing and dunking? It'll come in due time...
And Clip, you didn't have to call him a fool in the first place.

Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:49 am

Andreas Dahl wrote:Ruff, in all fairness, you were the first to bring up his ass and money...

I agree with Clip, they are still very early previews, and the other categories haven't been disclosed yet. Do you really expect them to show the defensive side of the game in a highlight about the new flashy passing and dunking? It'll come in due time...
And Clip, you didn't have to call him a fool in the first place.


true dahl, I should of just said it was 'foolish' to do so instead of out right calling him a fool.

I like these boards and what it means to all the live fans, so I'm sorry to call you a fool RR. I still contend what you did was foolish though.

Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:54 am

Point God wrote:They are only showing offense so far... they havent showed ANY blocks at all yet ... they probably made it so that shaq didnt jump in that play so everyone could see what dwight would do.


That's not the point. The point is, some of these dunks are absurd, a lot of them that you never see in real life, regardless of how frequent it will happen. As for Howard over Shaq, Shaq might not be able to jump at the time, but he sure as hell is going to contest it.

Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:21 pm

Dawg, that's the next gen video. Is next-gen coming for PC in October? NO. PS2? NO. XBox? NO. In the Next-Gen commercial I didn't see Antonio Daniels jumping over Ben Wallace's head. Have you even seen any of the vids besides the commercial :?: :roll: Right now you can come to a consensus on some things in the console and pc version from the videos. You can't really say much about the next-gen cuz all we seen is a commercial that for all we know could be a big rendering.[/quote]

Yep.
Heres the link
http://www.easports.com/games/nbalive06/rookies.jsp
http://www.easports.com/games/nbalive06/videos.jsp[/url]
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