Discussion: Should-be Superstars

[TheChancellor]

I feel like there's a lack of Superstar players. So I'd like to consider some opinions and possibly release a roster update of my own.

Now I know a lot of us are having trouble coming to terms with EA's player ratings, but I see a lot of people ripping the crap out of the game. Try not to be too critical in this discussion and back up your opinions with examples and reasons as to why you think a player is over/underated.

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Chris Webber: Underated

Ok, he didn't produce much in the short time he was with the Sixers. But if we consider his stats for that season, and look at what he did with Sacramento... We can see why this guy should be a superstar. He's just an all-around big man.

What kind of superstar should he be? Inside Scorer

He still averaged over 20 points a game for the Kings. And the freestyle moves for inside scorers (except for that nasty running fadeaway) somewhat fit Webber's game.

I would think that because of his position, he should have the Power and Stopper abilities. But I didn't find that those fit him very well. The last few seasons he's averaged "under" 1 block a game. And although he is powerful, I couldn't really see him dominating the paint with the same dunks as Kenyon, Shaq, and Ben because of his injuries.

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Stephen Jackson: Underated

He averaged 18 points per game in two straight seasons, one of which was spent playing amongst two all-stars. In Jermaine's absence he increased his average to 21 points per game in 22 games. Stats can't really say it all, just look at him play. He lacks consistency but the man is a Scorer

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Cuttino Mobley: Underated

Cuttino without a superstar attribute is pretty hard to believe. In only six seasons with the rockets he's one spot behind leading the franchise with most three pointers made. He's also one of the leading scorers for the Clippers despite having to adjust to a new team, keeping his average roughly the same. He was third in the league for highest field goal percentage. This guy is one heck of a Shooter

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Lamar Odom: Underated

His stats don't speak much, despite the fact that he average a double double for the whole season. He's accepted the fact that he's a role-player (according to an interview I watched on BET) and that's the only reason why his averages haven't peaked. This is one versatile forward and I've seen him go off when Kobe's in a slump. Definately an Inside Scorer.

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Grant Hill: Underated

How many times have we heard this eh? The guy comes back after years of suffering injuries and averages 19 points per game. This guy just has a natural ability to score. He has a sweet jumper, especially off the dribble. A good Scorer

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Zach Randolph: Underated

All I have to say is... Why the HECK is Theo Ratliff the only superstar on that team? Something is wrong here. They have one of the best Inside Scorers of the league.

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Carlos Boozer: Underated

Again, Kirilenko shouldn't be the only superstar. Boozer has come up big in his absence, and probably has more talents as a big man than Kirilenko does. He's an Inside Scorer.

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Donyell Marshall: Underated

There's a reason why he shares the record with Kobe for most Three Pointers made in a game... Can you say "Shooter?"

[weed manus]

It's your game, do whatever you want!!
But I will agree with you...I had fixed Webbers ratings for an Inside Scorer no more than 20 minutes after owning the game...

[Bang]

I think Stephen Jackson should be a shooter, not a scorer... Other than that, I think you're dead on...except for Lamar Odom. Yea he is a "star" but he doesn't do anything too special. He's just decent at everything. Also...I'm not sure if Loozer is that good in the post. He's the guy who does all the dirty work...he's not that much of an inside scorer..But then if AK47 is an inside scorer, I guess Loozer should be as well.

[BC1331]

I'm a Pacer Man...

What do I have to edit to make Stef a Shooter ??, just increase his.. shooting % ??

[Throwbacks]

Well this has brought to my attention that Marcus Camby on my team should be a Power Superstar because of all the dunks he does. I also think that Earl Boykins is underated because he should be an Outside Stopper what do you guys think?

[threatlockz]

chancellor, i disagree on all those proposals. those guys are decent players, but nowhere close to a SUPERstar. the term says it all. they should have high ratings in the areas you mentionned but not more than that. non-superstars can average more than 20ppg you know...

[AznBBoyX]

He's also one of the leading scorers for the Clippers despite having to adjust to a new team, keeping his average roughly the same.

He hasn't played for the Clippers yet.

[BC1331]

He's also one of the leading scorers for the Clippers despite having to adjust to a new team, keeping his average roughly the same.

He hasn't played for the Clippers yet.

Does Summer League Count....

[BOSS]

Chris Andersen should be a power.

[cyanide]

What do I have to edit to make Stef a Shooter ??, just increase his.. shooting % ??

http://www.nbaliveforums.com/ftopic28850.php

[Bada Bling]

I personally thought EA was being overly generous in trying to label a "superstar" for every team. All-star maybe. Superstar? Nah, at least not so many of them.

[hipn]

I think Chris Bosh from the Raptors shouldn't be a Scorer, but a Power player, and I think he should've been a stopper of somekind, I mean he blocks a lot, maybe not like crazy, but he's pretty good at blocking. D. Marshall from the CAVS should have a Shooter ability.

[afgshady]

I think Chris Bosh from the Raptors shouldn't be a Scorer, but a Power player, and I think he should've been a stopper of somekind, I mean he blocks a lot, maybe not like crazy, but he's pretty good at blocking. D. Marshall from the CAVS should have a Shooter ability.

bosh is a stopper just go to player freestyle type and enable his stopper inside thing cuz it is disabled or if u dont want to do that just play 1 year dynasty and he will turn into a stopper

[fgrep15]

Lamar Odom: Underated

His stats don't speak much, despite the fact that he average a double double for the whole season. He's accepted the fact that he's a role-player (according to an interview I watched on BET) and that's the only reason why his averages haven't peaked. This is one versatile forward and I've seen him go off when Kobe's in a slump. Definately an Inside Scorer.

He's not really an inside scorer though, he can score, but he's not a post player.

Carlos Boozer: Underated

Again, Kirilenko shouldn't be the only superstar. Boozer has come up big in his absence, and probably has more talents as a big man than Kirilenko does. He's an Inside Scorer.

Same with him, he can score, but he's not really an inside scorer, he scores on dunks, and mid-range jumpers, but he doesn't really have many moves.

[baller status]

allen... not a shooter? hes a scorer but i think he should be a shooter just for the purpose of the shooting types.

[pacersnrams781]

Brevin Knight with the Bobcats should be a playmaker on my game I made him one. I mean he had about 3 games with over 15 assists and like 30 with more than 10.

[TheChancellor]

Well this has brought to my attention that Marcus Camby on my team should be a Power Superstar because of all the dunks he does. I also think that Earl Boykins is underated because he should be an Outside Stopper what do you guys think?

Camby is a weakling for his size. I DEFINATELY agree about Earl.

chancellor, i disagree on all those proposals. those guys are decent players, but nowhere close to a SUPERstar. the term says it all. they should have high ratings in the areas you mentionned but not more than that. non-superstars can average more than 20ppg you know...

If that's your opinion, then there should be several players without an attribute that have one. People like Jason Terry and James Posey. There are superstar players haven't even gained recognition as a "Superstar." Dalembert is a perfect example. Korver too. And I know that non-superstars can average more than 20 points per game, but that isn't the point. If they are capable of that kind of production then they should be provided with a superstar attribute, especially if they're the the top players on the team.

He hasn't played for the Clippers yet.

Oh really? My bad... I guess my mind was playing tricks on my when I was watching NBA TV...

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/cuttino_mobley/

Chris Andersen should be a power.

I could see that, maybe...

I personally thought EA was being overly generous in trying to label a "superstar" for every team. All-star maybe. Superstar? Nah, at least not so many of them.

That's true, but after looking at what EA has done with the Superstar feature we have to consider what their purpose is. Having a superstar attribute doesn't necessarily mean the player is a standard "Superstar." I would think that it means that the player has a superstar "talent", meaning he's exceptional in that field. Korver sucks, but the guy can shoot the lights out, and he's the best shooter on the team. As such, he has a superstar attribute. This is why I made that list, because the aforementioned players I think excel in certain areas moreso than other players.

I think Chris Bosh from the Raptors shouldn't be a Scorer, but a Power player, and I think he should've been a stopper of somekind, I mean he blocks a lot, maybe not like crazy, but he's pretty good at blocking. D. Marshall from the CAVS should have a Shooter ability.

Bosh gets dominated in the post. Power is definately not something he has. I mean, look at him.

He's not really an inside scorer though, he can score, but he's not a post player.

Well, I partially agree with you there. He plays more like an outside player but considering that he played big man for the Lakers I wouldn't really label him an outside scorer. The moves of inside scorers fit Odom's game as well. They're not all post moves.

Same with him, he can score, but he's not really an inside scorer, he scores on dunks, and mid-range jumpers, but he doesn't really have many moves.

Yeah, after a little reconsideration I have to agree with you there.

allen... not a shooter? hes a scorer but i think he should be a shooter just for the purpose of the shooting types.

Then change it man Allen has the ability to be a shooter. Just change it under the Roster options. He's a shooter in my game.

Brevin Knight with the Bobcats should be a playmaker on my game I made him one. I mean he had about 3 games with over 15 assists and like 30 with more than 10.

DEFINATELY agree with you there. I forgot Brevin.

[artestfighttrainer]

Thx for the thread. Been thinking about this too, there was another thread about this before the game came out but it might be back a bit so gotta look. This thread is good, sort of gives me and other ideas and also reminds us about players we forget about.

Yeh def. been some inconsistencies (i bet i spelt that wrong) I thought Jamal Crawford was over-rated, inside scorer still deciding, he's def. not a playmaker, he avg. close to 4 assists but I saw like Brevin Knight (2nd in the league in assists), speedy claxton (avg. about 6 dimes) and others no playmaker moves. Damon Jones def. a shooter, Agree about c-webb and if u think that the runner doesnt suit him check out yao doing it, in the end they both dont look right. Speaking about Yao i dont think he should be a inside scorer. Richard Jefferson is not a outside stopper, naughty ea. Rip Hamilton outside scorer.

[Throwbacks]

Thanx Chancellor I will make Boykins a Outside Stopper!

[TheChancellor]

Yeah man. Threads like this works wonders. Especially for those who plan to make tweaked rosters.

[[Q]]

How has this not been discussed yet? DAMON JONES not a shooter??? c'mon now, you got Korver in there, but not Jones? he is a little underrated in 3s as well

[fgrep15]

Thanx Chancellor I will make Boykins a Outside Stopper!

why?

[Anthony15]

Hey, shouldn't Andr Miller be a playmaker? I've never seen anyone throw an alley oop better than he does!

[TheChancellor]

How has this not been discussed yet? DAMON JONES not a shooter??? c'mon now, you got Korver in there, but not Jones? he is a little underrated in 3s as well

I second that BIG TIME. Damon should definately be a shooter.

Hey, shouldn't Andr Miller be a playmaker? I've never seen anyone throw an alley oop better than he does!

I don't really agree with that too much... Anyone else?

[Throwbacks]

How has this not been discussed yet? DAMON JONES not a shooter??? c'mon now, you got Korver in there, but not Jones? he is a little underrated in 3s as well

I second that BIG TIME. Damon should definately be a shooter.

Hey, shouldn't Andr Miller be a playmaker? I've never seen anyone throw an alley oop better than he does!

I don't really agree with that too much... Anyone else?

Nah Miller shouldnt be a playmaker because ALL HE DOES IS SHOOT THE BALL! HE IS A BALL HOG! l