no more timeouts

by **airjao23** on Wed Jul 02, 2003 5:22 pm

i was down by 1 with less than 10 seconds remaining, and the cpu has possesion. so the obvious strategy would be to intentionally foul, so that even if the cpu makes both FTs i'm still only down by 3, a 1 possesion game. so i go ahead and do just that.. and lucky for me the cpu misses the 1st FT! but he makes the 2nd, so here's the situation.. about 3 secs left, i'm down by 2.. and NO MORE TIMOEOUTS! i'm gonna have to inbound all the way downcourt.. then i thought about the rule that if you call timeout when you no longer have one, you get one but you're opponent is awarded a technical FT. so i decided to call a timeout so i can inbound the ball in the halfcourt and get a better chance to score.. and i was given a tech as expected. so the cpu takes and makes the freethrow, so now i'm down by 3. i think well it's still just a 1 possesion game, if i make a 3 then we're going to overtime right? but then after the tech FT, the ball was awarded back to the cpu instead of me! so they were able to run out the clock.. now correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't possesion supposed to be mine after the tech freethrow?

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Jul 02, 2003 7:26 pm

No, the other team gets the ball after they are assessed a technical foul (and you have taken the resulting free throw).

by **airjao23** on Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:35 pm

i think you got it mixed up Andrew.. you see it was I who was assesed the technical, it was the CPU who took the resulting freethrow, but then the CPU got ball possesion afterwards as well, when it should have been my possesion. right?

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Thu Jul 03, 2003 12:11 pm

Sorry, I mis-read your first post. Yes, you should have had possession after the technical free throw.

by **airjao23** on Thu Jul 03, 2003 12:35 pm

i thought so.. the damn game is such a cheater! :evil:

i just wanted to share this so that you guys can let EA know that there's this mistake in the rules of the game, so it can be corrected in Live2004. it's bad enough that the cpu always makes a run and can't miss a shot and stuff.. but when they start bending the rules, then.. it really sucks!

by **bishibashiboy** on Thu Jul 03, 2003 2:51 pm

Actually i think it's one of those incorrect rules that are hard-wired into the game. Whenever a team (always the CPU in my experience) gets awarded a tech, the team that just shot the tech always gets the ball back. I've never tried playing online, so does anybody want to try it with another human opponent and prove me wrong? I think EA just messed up and it's not the CPU cheating.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Thu Jul 03, 2003 5:59 pm

That's true. It's an error, not the CPU cheating.

by **airjao23** on Thu Jul 03, 2003 6:56 pm

yeah i know i never really meant it literally when i said that the cpu is cheating :roll:

like i said they probably just got the rule wrong or something.. it just felt like i was cheated of a possible win because of that, that's all. and speaking of technicals, in what other ways can you get one? the only other instance i got called for one is on a defensive 3 secs..

by **paul_pierce_the_truth** on Sun Jul 06, 2003 7:10 am

well actually the game, the computer and the refs are all working together against you. because you have no control over the calls the refs make, the computer AI does, which controls the other team.

by **malice_05** on Thu Aug 14, 2003 3:08 pm

Isn't it an NBA rule that the team that shoots the tech gets the ball after?
I could be wrong but I think that is the way it is.

by **Robby** on Sat Sep 20, 2003 9:42 am

malice_05 wrote:Isn't it an NBA rule that the team that shoots the tech gets the ball after?
I could be wrong but I think that is the way it is.

No, you guys don't know the rule but EA does. Let me clarify: Let's say LA is playing DET. If LA has no timeouts left, but calls one anyway, then they get a technical foul and also lose posession of the ball. The NBA implemented this rule so teams wouldn't keep calling timeouts and getting only a one point penalty. Don't believe me? Go to the Web archive site and go to nba.com and check for a Den. at Utah game during the 2000-2001 or 2001-2002 season. The very thing you guys are talking about happened in the game. :wink:

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Sat Sep 20, 2003 1:24 pm

I was unaware of that rule change - back in the 1976 NBA Finals the Phoenix Suns were able to advance the ball to mid-court after they called a non-existent timeout. Boston got to shoot a free throw, but then Phoenix still got the ball at mid-court (Gar Heard then hit a shot to send the game into a third overtime). I assumed it was still the same today.

by **Robby** on Sun Sep 21, 2003 11:41 am

Andrew wrote:I was unaware of that rule change - back in the 1976 NBA Finals the Phoenix Suns were able to advance the ball to mid-court after they called a non-existent timeout. Boston got to shoot a free throw, but then Phoenix still got the ball at mid-court (Gar Heard then hit a shot to send the game into a third overtime). I assumed it was still the same today.

Yeah I was under the same impression as you until a couple of years ago. Like I said, Denver was playing in Utah and had no timeouts left but Van Exel called one anyways and the Jazz shot a technical free throw and also gained possesion of the ball. It is good of EA to put in this seemingly miniscule detail to make the game have a more realistic feel. :wink:

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Sun Sep 21, 2003 12:54 pm

Indeed. It's true, you learn something every day. :wink:

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