My Keys to Winning in NBA Live 2003

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My Keys to Winning in NBA Live 2003

Postby GBrushThreepwood on Wed Jan 08, 2003 11:00 am

Naturally, this is for people who play on Superstar, because anybody can win on the 3 lower levels. I feel that if I do an adequate to good job on all of the following things, I am in a very good position to win games. If more than 2 of the below items is faltering in any game..your chances of winning decrease significantly.
All of the following items aren't ranked in order of significance, because they're all equally important.

- Defense[/b] - You can win shoot outs with other teams if you yourself are shooting well, but this is a very dangerous style to play. It's always better to solidfy your defense, because it creates easier opportunities on offense (and not necessarily vice-versa). Most teams in the game have one or two superstar players who can hit shots from anywhere. It's vital to contain these guys as much as possible.
There is no possible way to completely stop players like Paul Pierce, Kobe Bryant, T-Mac, and Jerry Stackhouse, you just have to try to somehow contain them. Most times you can't though.
Personally, I let the computer focus on guarding them, because they are excellent slashers, and I find it extremely difficult to guard people cutting to the basket while I'm moving with them. I'll focus on not letting anybody else on their team get open shots. If they insist on sitting behind the arc though, I will try to play them tight in preparation for a blocked 3 point attempt. If they do blow by though, you're pretty much screwed. Just try not to foul them too much.
I usually choose 2 positions to be on defense: the PG or the C. I'll take the point guard when trying to defend when the ball is coming up court. I hit rapid combinations of the 'guard' stance, the take charge stance, the arms up stance, and the arms low stance. I'll just do these in random succession to attempt to impede the ball carrier from burning me. Sometimes I'll hit the 3 steal buttons in succession as well (if the PG doesn't have very good ball handling)
Many PG's in the game like to pop 3's very early, so I think it's vital to block these shots when they're coming. There's nothing worse than when some guy gets on a 3 point rampage.
If the PG dishes the ball off to somebody else, I'll switch to the Center and kinda roam around down low. I won't necessarily stick with the Center I'm guarding, but I won't completely leave him open for an easy bucket either. The Center, IMO, is the most important part of the defensive approach.
It is VERY important to attempt to contest the shot of any player who takes it down low. DO NOT let the opponent get easy baskets. You need to teach them that they can't get high percentage shots in your territory.
I usually have my center in the tall tree/arms up position while im roaming around with him. When a shot is taken nearby, I'll try to contest it, and hopefully block it. Don't be discouraged if you don't get the ball back after a block, it happens very often. If at all possible though, try to get the ball back if a guy is nearby (I can only say that positioning and practice helps with this task). If you know you have no chance of getting the ball back after a block, don't panic or get frustrated.
Stick with the guy who you were guarding before, and don't move too far away. Chances are that the AI is gonna take a very similar shot (in fact, if a guy has just gotten a 3 pointer stuffed, and gets the ball, back, I'd say chances are like 75-90% he's gonna take another 3 in the same spot). Try to stuff the upcoming shot again until you or somebody else on your team can make a play and get the ball. The most important thing is to not get frustrated, and stay patient on defense.
If somebody is posting you up, try to take the charge very often. Sometimes you'll get called for a block, sometimes they won't call anything. These are just things that happen. You should get the call most of the time, but not always. Be prepared for them to have a very easy shot if they knock you down and nothing is called. It's nearly impossible to recover from something like that. If the guy you are guarding is weaker than your guy, don't take the charge, but wait for them to make their move. They shouldn't be able to back you down if your guy is stronger.
If you do the above things well (sticking to your guy, using your C effectively, and blocking shots), your defense should improve significantly.

- Shot selection/scoring
One big result of playing good defense is that you will see yourself getting very easy baskets often. If you continue to stuff the shit out of guys trying to get shots on you, you can (hopefully) grab the ball, chuck it down the court, and go for an easy basket with some guards or the SF. When you chuck the ball down court, make sure you throw to a guy who isn't covered too much and has some room to work with. If you're leading a fast break, ideally, take the ball down in the middle of the lane, and hope somebody is running besides you and is wide open for a layup/dunk.

This is one of the easiest ways to get easy baskets and quickly put up a lot of points. You don't allow the other team to score, and you get points in the process. It's a win win situation.

Another thing to realize is to pick and choose your spots carefully. Do not always feel like you need to fast break, because you will eventually come up with a lot of charges and turnovers. If there is no open guy down court, don't try to force something. You're gonna end up with a charge, a blocked shot, stolen ball, or a bad miss. If you see nothing open, slow it up, wait for the other guys to get back up court, and then start what you are going to do. The most important thing to note is to not force opportunities that aren't there.
By all means, take wide open 3's with guys who are good at 3's, but don't get too trigger happy. All good 3 point shooting comes to an end (no matter how RIDICULOUS the AI is on Superstar in shooting 3's), so know when to pop that 3, and know when to make the extra pass to a guy down low for an easier 2.

- Rebound. Rebound. Rebound. I can't stress this enough. This is what helps me win my games on superstar the most. If I am getting outrebounded, I most likely will lose the game.
You aren't going to make all your shots on offense. This is a given. If you are good at offensive rebounding though, you get EASY shots down low, even when you should have just had a miss and give the other team a chance to get points. Attempt to rebound at all times during the game, it is VITAL to winning. Time your jump then press the jump button to get the rebound. It sounds pretty easy, but it's such an important part of winning. If you're winning the battle of the glass, there is no reason why you should be losing.

-Take care of the ball. In tight games in the 4th quarter on superstar, the cpu AI REALLY kicks up the defensive pressure. They just wail and hack away at your guys at all times when you have the ball. You can NOT give the ball away on your offensive trips. You have to maximize all offensive efforts on this end of the court.
If at all possible, try to get the ball in your PG or SG hands (or somebody who has decent ball handling skills). If a gang of defenders come to strip the ball away from you, get the ball away immediately. Do not try to weave through them, the ball will get stolen. Pass the ball around very quickly when the defensive is double teaming and putting pressure on the ball handler. Eventually, you should find some guy with an open shot, and an easy basket. Hopefully the open guy makes that shot, and you successfully defeat the pressure. It's extremely important to have less turnovers than your opponent during the game. Don't give them extra chances to beat you that they shouldn't get.

-Know your go to guy. Always.
Again, another extremely important facet of the game. In very close games, things get extremely hectic. You need to know WHO you are going to at all times. Close games are NOT a time for experimenting with other players to make big plays. Close games are the time when your best player MUST have the ball, and make the plays that must be made. Don't give the ball to players who have bad ball handling ability. In my franchise with the Celtics, I designated Paul Pierce as my #1 go to guy in the 4th, period.
There were many, many occassions when I would go into the 4th (trailing or tied) and say to myself, 'Self, it's time for Paul Pierce to get the ball, no fucking around anymore'.
Give the ball to somebody who you know can produce, and somebody whose positive moves you know. In other words, don't give the ball to Shaq and start trying to do cross overs. I give the ball to Pierce, and I just pound it to the whole, and dare the defense to stop me in getting points.
In my final game of my first season, I had a great example of this. It was Game 6 of the NBA Finals in L.A. Celtics vs. Lakers. Celtics lead 3-2.
It was tied going into the 4th quarter, and the entire game was unbelievably close. Pierce had 21 or so points going into the 4th. From that point forward, I did not intend to give the ball to any other play on my team. I was either gonna win it on offense with Pierce, or lose it with him. If they trapped him, I gave it to Antoine Walker down for an attempted layup or hook shoot.
The Lakers are the hardest team in the game, so I had to give it absolutely everything I had, which was Pierce Pierce Pierce. Kobe Bryant hit every shot he took I think, and I had to match that every time down the court. I was up by 1 with 12 seconds left in the game, and I gave it to Pierce on an iso with Kobe guarding him. I slashed to the hoop, made a couple moves and got the layup with 1 second left. They inbounded the ball from half court, tossed it to Kobe and DRILLED a 3 pointer to send the game into OT. I was literally stunned. I figured that I just had to keep playing though and stay focused on winning.
First OT goes by, (I still give the ball to Pierce every time down), and we're still tied. Second OT comes, I'm up 2 with under a minute left, and I stripped the ball from them, chucked it down court to Eric Williams for an EASY dunk and a foul and was up by 5 with under 30 secs left. This pretty much clinched my victory.
I was really excited that I won the title, and the cool little ending sequence happened with David Stern and all.
After all was said and done, Pierce ended up with 58 points after the 2 OT's. This is just an example of you have to go to guys you trust in getting baskets in pressure situations.

--Stay relaxed - There are many, many frustrating things that happen while playing on Superstar. The CPU AI is incredibly cheap, but you have to deal with it. Getting mad only increases your chances of losing.
Before even playing a game on superstar, you must realize that:
-they will make a shitload of 3 pointers, that many times will seem ridiculous
-they will strip the ball from you in ridiculous ways
-they will come back from a huge deficit
These things will happen, undoubtedly. When they happen though, just take it in stired, and continue on with your gameplan, and hopefully, you will get some breaks on defense, throw the ball up court and get an easy layup. The most important thing is to stick with your gameplan. Do things that previously put you into a position to win, and don't deviate from it.
As you improve on Superstar, you start to learn how to put teams away and make sure that they don't come back from large deficits.

Phew...that was an incredibly long post, but I just needed to crap out these things that I've been thinking while playing the game for a few months now. That was a pretty decent way to kill a half hourt. :)

Take these tips into consideration, and hopefully, you will never lose in Superstar.
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Postby ezail on Wed Jan 08, 2003 2:22 pm

hey man..we have the same techniques and all..
very nice post...
its worth reading....
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Postby cocobee on Wed Jan 08, 2003 2:42 pm

good read, nice work man :lol:
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Postby samson_lite on Wed Jan 08, 2003 5:07 pm

Hi, great tips. You said you let the computer focus on guarding certain players. Do you play with CPU assistance on? It seems that in superstar mode, the CPU defenders on your team won't ever jump to block a shot.
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Postby yogabear on Wed Jan 08, 2003 5:46 pm

samson_lite wrote:
Hi, great tips. You said you let the computer focus on guarding certain players. Do you play with CPU assistance on? It seems that in superstar mode, the CPU defenders on your team won't ever jump to block a shot.


he means you do switching. you cannot always guard the computer one on one. you have a better chance of stopping them using that technique. Help defense is very important.. Use full court defense so that they are going to have a hard time crossing the halfcourt line, and distract the flow of their offense... i'm on a 4 game winning streak right now, trapping defense helped me a lot, i had struggled last week, but the important thing is im on track right now... =)
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Postby ZipBreak on Thu Jan 09, 2003 1:44 am

Some more tips from my experience:

Defense:
* Try to put the stars of the opposing team to foul trouble by taking charges from them. This may be cheap, but it also have huge risks. However, once you master this, you'll be heaps better. And later, even if you forego using the take charge button, you will still have learned most of the favorite plays of the CPU.
* There's this play that the CPU will run that is usually a guaranteed basket. What they do is they have a good ballhandler run up on one side of the baseline, escorted by 1 or more of his teammates in order to overload that side. If you try chasing through this, the ballhandler will leave you in the dust by using multiple picks, so don't! To defend this, either just select the C and stand by for the basket attempt, OR send a defender between them and the basket and stand your ground! You have a better thatn 50% chance of forcing a turnover (offensive foul, player out of bounds, or forced bad pass). However, a trick to watch out for is the CPU sometimes makes a 3pt shooter run back behind the arc and shoot the 3, so be prepared for this counter.

Offense:
* Use Icon passing. Always. And don't forget: use icon passing! This is an important point. In previous Lives, the PASS button acts quite logical by passing to the next nearest teammate, preferably one nearer to the basket. In 2003, default passes can go anywhere! Heck, it can even be passed across the court, or to a teammate running out of bounds!
* Don't fall in love with the threeball. I once played a game with a team having a lot of 3pt shooters, so I tried using it to the max. However, I wound up with a very low 3PT%, and thus more fastbreak opportunities for the CPU. Now, I only usually jack up when I have no other option.
* Don't gamble on alley-oop passes if the receiver does not have enough dunk rating, or inside scoring, or both! He may not be able to receive the pass, may not be able to make the dunk, or worse, turns it over!

Others
* I always wonder about my FG% being too high (in my franchise, I lead the league with 72% FG! if you think this is bad, it used to be 81% even), and my rebounds being too low (usually in the high teens, or at most, high twenties). To fix this, I just take more jump shots -- mid-range jumpshots mind you. Don't force your guys to shoot the 3 for this. This way, I miss some of the time and get the opportunity to get a rebound.
* If you're a bad FT shooter, simply select one of your guys immediately after you release your freethrow, and then attempt to get the offensive board. You need to know how to position effectively to be successful at this.

CPU Tricks to watch out for
* If the CPU is using full court press, or double teaming, try to pass the ball to a free guy as soon as you can. Like GBrush said, don't attempt to split or beat the pressure using one man. You're almost certain to be robbed (yep! even if the help defender is a slow C rated 69!) so slow down and take your time.
* If the CPU is in its run, don't hurry your inbounds! There's this nasty trick wherein the CPU places your normal inbound receiver half-on, half-off court, so when you pass to him, it's an instant turnover.
* Watch out for a hot player on the CPU team. If this is a 3pt shooter, the only way to cool him down (aside from using your precious time-outs), is to block his shot repeatedly.

About all I can think of off the top of my head...
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Postby Miller Time on Thu Jan 09, 2003 4:16 am

Can someone tell me how to stop the cpu dive! They doesn't hit midrange jumper, they just dribble over and over again until they find a hole in the defense..................what is your strategy regarding this?
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Postby GBrushThreepwood on Thu Jan 09, 2003 7:45 am

There's nothing you can really do to stop good players from slashing to the basket (much like in real life). You can foul them, but they'll hit the shot and get the free throw often.
Your best bet is to bail out on the play and don't contest the shot if they already have daylight to the basket. If you Center can stop them, then try to block their shot.

As for cpu defense, yea, you're right, the cpu doesn't play very good defense when you aren't guarding the ball. They don't really block shots. That's why it's important to always help out and stay behind the guy who's guarding the person w/ the ball. This creates 2 layers of defense for them to get by.

One other thing that REALLY bothers me is how the SG on all times always meanders in the back court while the PG is taking the ball up court. I really don't like this. I wish they would run up the floor and get in their position on the wing.
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Postby Ymakino on Thu Jan 09, 2003 10:27 am

Stopping CPU Drive on Superstar



First of all, make sure the guy your using to stop the cpu star from driving to the hoop has decent speed and defensive capabilities.

Second, Let the CPU stay with the star(who is madly using spinmoves and crossovers to make his way to the hoop) Don't try to gaurd the guy yourself. Let the CPU do it.

Thirdly, You have to anticipate when the CPU will shoot (This comes with experience). Just before you feel the CPU will shoot the ball, quickly switch player's, so your gaurding him. Then press the take charge button. You have to be very quick for it to work affectivley.
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Postby Miller Time on Fri Jan 10, 2003 5:38 am

First of all i want to thank Threepwood ( glad your back from monkey Island) and Ymakino for this post.
I think i found a solution: here the stats at the halftime break with the DEFAULT roster and 10 min qarts. (i was Indiana of course)

Utah Indiana

Points 38 44
Bench Scoring 22 7
Field Goals 18/39 19/32
Field Goal % .462 .594
3 Point FG 2/13 2/9
3 Point % .154 .222
Free Throws 0/0 4/8
Free Throw % .000 .500
Rebounds 6 23
Off. Rebounds 0 7
Def. Rebounds 6 16
Blocks 1 4
Steals 10 3
Assists 13 11
Turnovers 6 14
Fouls 10 5


I used yours tips and this is what i did: i went to the defensive matchup menu and set high pressure on good player and low to bad ones,in the game when Cheney or Harpring got the ball i switch to the nearest defender (no matter if i was on zone defense or man to man), i press face up button and then take charge/hans up button, for my big surprise the cpu took a shot from midrange and not only once but almost every time i put a good pressure on him.
I left the cpu to a poor 36% from the field in the first quarter!
You have to forget ALL you have learned from the previous Live
It's all about D guys! Don't let the cpu to take easy penetration and they will try other way to score.
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