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Are offense and points scripted?

Sun Dec 22, 2002 3:06 am

I was wondering if anyone thinks that the CPU's offense and points are scripted. I mean I have a feeling that AI decides that the next shot has to go in, no matter what. For instance: I was playing against Sacramento, and I was winning by 6 points. I knew what was coming: 3 pointers. So Bibby tried a three, I blocked him, he got the ball, again he tried the 3 right away, I blocked him, and this happened 7 times in a row. On the 8th try I couldn't block him, and he actually scored a 3, nothing but net... And it happened a bunch of times... So I'm thinking that there's a script somewhere in the code that decides that all those shots HAVE to go in, no matter what I do. It's not about finding an open man who can get an easy layup or something, it's about scripted points (I'd call it cheating, but I'm just so f*cking tired bashing EA) So anybody had the same feeling?

Sun Dec 22, 2002 3:15 am

me too!!!!!! :D

Sun Dec 22, 2002 8:55 am

I feel you on that one... At the end of the game to many things happen for the computer that I feel it written in code. And why all of sudden at the end of the game not only are they making threes, but they want to try to come back??? But its ok to play like shi* for the first 3 quartes and first half of the fourth :roll:

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Sun Dec 22, 2002 9:19 am

One play that pisses me off the most is Yao Ming steps back and takes the three, and he makes it! That's unbelievable! He's 7"6' and makes the threes, what else he's gonna do next, dribble all the way upcourt for a coast to coast dunk? Uhh... :x

Sun Dec 22, 2002 10:08 am

I know that the developers can't say anything about the methods they used, but I'd REALLY love to know how they did it. I mean, fine, they need to simulate SOMEHOW that a team can run cold for a few minutes, missing shots and junk like that, but it's not every game, and it shouldn't be in a "you're going to miss everything, no matter what you do, and the cpu will score, no matter what you do" way. I don't want to criticise EA again, bc they get that a lot and it's getting old, but it's plain cheating, I think everyone agrees with me on that. NBA2003 can be a fun game to play with (faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar from a basketball sim, but still fun at times) but it can be so frustrating that it's almost ridiculous, sometimes I can't help, but laugh at the stupidity of the AI, and the scripted 3 pointers and comeback attempts. If they had a better and smarter AI with realistic physics, they could play better defense and set up better plays to get the ball to an open man. If the AI was better, it wouldn't try to shoot 3 pointers with the same player even after I blocked the shot 7 times in a row, and I miss the 8th block just because I laugh my ass off. And I can tweak whatever I want, scripted 3 pointers and comeback attempts are ALWAYS there. I would really like to see a post where someone explains me why these are not scripted things. I know many of you would just say "If you don't like it, don't play with it." It's true, but I'm a true basketball fan and always try to give the game another chance. And I have nothing against EA... You don't have to protect them from me. :D They make excellent arcade stuff!!! But they should consider changing the "If it's in the game, it's in the game" line to "If it's not a sim, don't advertise it as one".

Sun Dec 22, 2002 10:10 am

Oh, and I do think that they could fix this with a patch, or at least tone it down a little. That's why I used the "general issues" forum to post this message. :D

Sun Dec 22, 2002 12:58 pm

I second that.... Now someone prove us wrong... :o
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