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Sat Nov 30, 2002 7:36 am

No, I don't think he means not being able to download it, he means that when you load up the save file in-game it doesn't work. I tried, and it did not work for me either. You can just copy the players.DBF into the currentdb folder to use the roster.

Sat Nov 30, 2002 7:51 am

Sorry about that guys.

I have checked and uploaded a new file with the tweaks, I made sure it loads ingame so there should be no trouble now.

The error was somewhere in the Players.dbf but I could not find it, maybe I messed up a player field somewhere.

Anyways the important thing is it works now.

BTW It is the same link

Sat Nov 30, 2002 8:44 am

Hey DK, your lastest tweaked is very good. My lakers team and opponent teams are shotting around 50% per game. Great job dude!

Sat Nov 30, 2002 9:36 am

In my game, the CPU was shooting around 65% until the 4th and then they shot for like 3/20 and dropped their percentage...



Very nice roster indeed mate :D

Sat Nov 30, 2002 9:57 am

Here are my last two games. I was Boston both times.

Code:
Entire Game         Toronto          Boston           

Points              74               97               
Bench Scoring       14               26               
Field Goals         31/83            36/68           
Field Goal %        .373             .529             
3 Point FG          6/28             7/14             
3 Point %           .214             .500             
Free Throws         6/6              18/22           
Free Throw %        1.000            .818             
Rebounds            31               45               
Off. Rebounds       9                9               
Def. Rebounds       22               36               
Blocks              2                9               
Steals              12               14               
Assists             9                27               
Turnovers           18               24               
Fouls               16               13               


Code:
Entire Game         Dallas           Boston           

Points              131              112             
Bench Scoring       45               16               
Field Goals         47/79            43/79           
Field Goal %        .595             .544             
3 Point FG          11/25            5/21             
3 Point %           .440             .238             
Free Throws         26/29            21/24           
Free Throw %        .897             .875             
Rebounds            27               35               
Off. Rebounds       3                11               
Def. Rebounds       24               24               
Blocks              2                4               
Steals              14               7               
Assists             22               25               
Turnovers           15               21               
Fouls               26               25               


FG%'s a little high, maybe? Free Throws/Fouls were a little better. Offensive Rebounds in the Toronto game were 9 apiece, wow! But, went back to the usual 11-3 in the Dallas game. Steals were lower. Maybe just a case of bad ball for the high totals, or just has to be tweaked a little bit more, not sure. I would love to have a close game though, like buzzer beater...

Sat Nov 30, 2002 10:07 am

scorees are really high for me...

Sat Nov 30, 2002 10:08 am

Well the FGs fluctuate and the player has a lot to do with it.

NOW I have made a site for my rosters, this will be the place to get them to keep the messiness down and to organize things. Look for it pretty soon.


But AOL is pissing me off, all I had to do was upload one more page but they won't let me do it, so I deleted some suff but no go, it must be some kind of daily limit.

Sat Nov 30, 2002 10:16 am

Holy crap AOL just let me upload the site.


Let me present to you

NBA LIVE 2003 Updated and Tweaked Rosters by DK

Go and check it out and tell me what you think, I know it's not much but I tried.

Sat Nov 30, 2002 10:18 am

is this the new versoni?

Sat Nov 30, 2002 10:25 am

Nope this is latest version but not a new one

Sat Nov 30, 2002 10:59 am

thanks for ur great patch, DK
here are two states of mine, 8 mins, sim, maxed d foul
u can see they are not very statisfactory.

i was with Chicago and Cleveland
FG was too high. scores were too high, and u can see how many blocks i got in the 2nd time.

Red colors r where i think unrealistic

Entire Game Chicago Boston

Points 102 103
Bench Scoring 26 10
Field Goals 45/72 36/74
Field Goal % .625 .486
3 Point FG 8/21 7/12
3 Point % .381 .583
Free Throws 4/6 24/33
Free Throw % .667 .727
Rebounds 37 20
Off. Rebounds 5 1
Def. Rebounds 32 19
Blocks 11 5
Steals 6 14
Assists 23 16
Turnovers 21 7
Fouls 23 7





Entire Game Cleveland Sacramento

Points 121 121
Bench Scoring 31 19
Field Goals 49/79 50/91
Field Goal % .620 .549
3 Point FG 9/16 8/23
3 Point % .562 .348
Free Throws 14/20 13/18
Free Throw % .700 .722
Rebounds 31 21
Off. Rebounds 5 1
Def. Rebounds 26 20
Blocks 22 7
Steals 10 20
Assists 32 31
Turnovers 30 15
Fouls 21 18

Sat Nov 30, 2002 11:27 am

First playing Arcade slows the game down and helps.

Second some games produce anomalies from the norm, just because NBA teams shoot 35% from 3pt range doesn't mean that some teams will miss all or make a high precentage. Last night the Nets were shooting well over 50% from 3pt in the 4th quarter. But I have not ever hit over 50%.

The blocks though should be pretty low, I guess you are a good player especially on defence.

Third all Live players have different skill levels and you just might be way too good for this patch. I'm sure you can see others have posted stats that are pretty realistic.

Sat Nov 30, 2002 11:33 am

umm. i'm guessing marcus camby dissapeared into thin air? i mean i know he's injured but put him on ir, dont delete him like he dont exist. also, alonzo mourning, he's on ir too....but, he's not in your roster. also, why does seattle have 10 players. look?

Sonics Roster

2002-03 Roster
NUM PLAYER POS HT WT DOB FROM YRS
17 Kenny Anderson G 6-1 168 10/09/70 Georgia Tech '93 11
31 Brent Barry G 6-6 203 12/31/71 Oregon State '95 7
52 Calvin Booth C 6-11 231 5/07/76 Penn State '99 3
14 Predrag Drobnjak C 6-11 272 10/27/75 Yugoslavia 1
34 Reggie Evans F 6-8 245 5/18/80 Iowa '02 R
40 Joseph Forte G 6-4 194 3/23/81 North Carolina '03 1
33 Jerome James C 7-1 272 11/17/75 Florida A&M '98 2
7 Rashard Lewis F 6-10 215 8/08/79 Alief Elsik HS (TX) '98 4
24 Desmond Mason F-G 6-5 222 10/11/77 Oklahoma State '00 2
20 Gary Payton G 6-4 180 7/23/68 Oregon State '90 12
9 Vitaly Potapenko* C-F 6-10 285 3/21/75 Wright State '97 6
77 Vladimir Radmanovic F 6-10 234 11/19/80 Yugoslavia 1
5 Ansu Sesay F 6-9 225 7/29/76 Mississippi '98 1


count that. 10 players? i dont think so.

i appreciate your willingness to do a roster patch, but dont make a half-assed roster, just to do it. put some work and research into it.

Sat Nov 30, 2002 11:37 am

DAMN I just saw that, I made a DBF error by giving 2 guys on the sam e team the same bench roster spot.

But I took Mournig out since he is most likely done but I'll put him back.

I'll fix all of this and an update will be out soon

*********EDIT*************

The updated fixed roster is out, It fixes all of the above mentioned issues.
I apologize for the errors and hope to eliminate any others in the future.

BTW The download page and file name did not change since it is essentially the same file.

Link in the signature
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Sat Nov 30, 2002 11:44 am

thanks. you'll probably watch the celts game now. i hope they win. anyway, i noticed that most players dont have the icons anymore - for example, i play with la, and kobe doesnt have the padlock on d. can you tell me why?

thanks

Sat Nov 30, 2002 11:57 am

Since things like speed, blocks, steals, and jumping (all essential defensive attributes) are reduced no players are not at a high enough level to get the icon. I believe the only icon that shows now is 3pt and that is only with a select few.

i need to download your tweaked roster but..

Sat Nov 30, 2002 3:01 pm

For some reason I am unable to d/l it.. the d/l page doesnt load completely. Is there another location I can get it at?
thx.

Sat Nov 30, 2002 3:08 pm

Strange, the page loads for me

here is the direct link

http://www.members.aol.com/dadokasper/live2003/11-28-02-Active-Rosters.zip

Sun Dec 01, 2002 2:16 am

No new rosters but the downloads page has been updated with all the number specific tweaks I use on the ratings due to someones suggestion e-mail.

Sun Dec 01, 2002 2:51 am

DK, your roster is well done. BTW, is inside scoring adjusted for all players on an equal basis or does it only apply to "big men". You've incorporated some of the changes I would like to see in a roster, such as the primacy, inside scoring and jumping adjustments. Thanks.
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Sun Dec 01, 2002 2:55 am

I'm glad you like my rosters.
I'll look into multiplying jumping by *.75 to .*80 this will take about 5 points from the players.

Maye I'll put out an update later today with these tweaks plus the transactons from yestarday.

******EDIT*****

Inside scoring is adjusted for everyone by the same multiplier.

Sun Dec 01, 2002 3:23 am

Dk, you have to pardon me. It seems that I got your roster mixed up with Jcroster's roster for some reason. Anyhow, I was finally able to load yours and I still like what I see so far, although the game speed might need some adjustments to resemble a more deliberate pace, but I'm still testing it out so I'll give further feedback.

Sun Dec 01, 2002 3:31 am

I was thinking that too to tell you the truth.
Speed *.90 perhaps?

Sun Dec 01, 2002 5:22 am

Hey DK are you playing in Arcade mode or Sim?

Sun Dec 01, 2002 5:56 am

Arcade
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