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Postby BIG GREEN on Tue Oct 21, 2003 2:30 pm

Now..im a graphics whore...and....Espn Basketball is spanking live in the graphics department. I dont find the nba live series to have bad graphics but ...here are my suggestions.


Bump mapping

..Check out the Doom 3 screens and you'll know what that is. Models look like they have 298540 million polys yet they dont...why? The textures feature something call bump mapping which make textures/models look very detailed.

Pixel shaders

This can be used to make players look sweaty ingame. For reference...once again..see Doom 3 screenshots or Max payne 2 screens. You can even check out ingame screens of Espn Basketball to get an idea of what it looks like.

Real time lighting/shadows

This one is not as important as the rest but it definitely adds alot of reaslism. (see Doom 3 screens..lol). Currently in live...places like the urban court..the buildings and players cast shadows on surfaces...but have you ever seen a shadow from another player or the evironment being cast on other players? Have you ever seen light move during gameplay? Think about that for a second.

Last but not least...

Havoc Physics/Ragdoll physics

..Play or look at Max Payne 2 videos to have an idea of what it looks like. Even better...play Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance(kickass game btw). Notice how the player's hair move..as well their clothes? I think if nba live added these physics it would make the game look 100% more realistic. Think of it...nowitski and larry bird with hair that bounce....spree doing the toma hawk and his uniform flails about. Out of all these graphical improvements, i'd love to see this the most.
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Postby Jackal on Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:03 pm

I said the player models looked freaky when I saw the first screens, they look like they are being pulled into the ground or something, oh well, I dont mind all that as long as the game play is good. From what I hear it's not to bad, but they should try and improve the graphics for next year.

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Agree... But...

Postby Vi1n5ce on Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:23 pm

First of all, Max Payne 2... The production team is the most talented in the gaming industry, no doubt about that (at least IMO), can't compare with "EA Canada"...

Second of all, Doom 3... You know the system requirement for Doom 3??? Minimum: 1.5Ghz CPU, Geforce 4 MX .... (I think you will get 15 fps or so with that) Recommanded: 2.4Ghz CPU, ATI 9xxx series or Nvidia Geforce FX series... (Get around 60~70 fps) Maximum: Not possible yet... :lol:
Can't compare graphics with Id... Id is graphics freaks.....

I think EA wants to keep the PC requirements low (no T&L video card required) so it will cover more consumers and make more money....

I think the problem is not they are not able to get the graphic all nice, the problem is that they don't want to do it....

But all that will change after the release of Windows Longhorn... and PCI express....
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Postby ailive2005 on Mon Dec 29, 2003 7:47 am

All the things Yohance Bailey said (Bump mapping, per pixel shading, etc) are possible for this years live 2005, especially for the fact that EA signed a deal with Nvidia but wasn't able to use the stuff yet in live 04. Now that they have a full development year, i'm expecting photorealistc players from hair to sneakers (head to feet) on the pc and Xbox version of the game. I expect nothing lees EA is a multi-billion dollar company (the richest of any who don't make consoles) and should be able to get it done and not have to wait for PS3 or Xbox 2.
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Postby Andreas Dahl on Fri Jan 02, 2004 9:05 am

ailive2005 wrote:All the things Yohance Bailey said (Bump mapping, per pixel shading, etc) are possible for this years live 2005, especially for the fact that EA signed a deal with Nvidia but wasn't able to use the stuff yet in live 04. Now that they have a full development year, i'm expecting photorealistc players from hair to sneakers (head to feet) on the pc and Xbox version of the game. I expect nothing lees EA is a multi-billion dollar company (the richest of any who don't make consoles) and should be able to get it done and not have to wait for PS3 or Xbox 2.
let's hope your right :)
that would be awsome it they would make a big jump on the graphics, and kept improving some on the other things (witsh already is great)
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