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Mon Dec 29, 2003 2:28 am

1.Better control of passing--I want to be able to control the type of pass. For example, if I wanted to throw the ball ahead of my streaking player (the ball should bounce in front of him, so he could catch up to it), I could do that, but if I only wanted to outlet the ball (make him stop) I could do that too. Most importantly, I want lob passes, especially into big men in traffic.

2. Fighting for possetions off lobs--I want lob passes into the lane, but I also want big men going up to get it, and the defense to try to tip it away (when they have the chance).

3. Fighting for rebounds--I want the ball tapped up into the air when players are fighting for rebounds, or tipped out to teammates both offensively and defensively. The game needs players attempting tip-ins (including missed tips) instead of the catch and shoot in the air animation that the game has now.

4. Better mid-range game, and back screens, and other fundamental parts of a basketball game. I want to notice when players do little things to help my team win.

5. More post up moves--I want to be able to what Duncan does in the post. I'd like to be able to do shoulder fakes with the Rt. Analog stick after I've dribled. I want to be able to do the dream shake with Hakeem. I want to be able to adjust which side I'm posting up with, by using Freestyle.

6. Better moves--I want more control over triple threat moves. For example, I'd like to be able to control how hard the jab step is (Like Iverson) I want a move where I tap post up, and the player does a hard shoulder shake (like Jordan or Kobe). I want to be able to do the slow walk backdown, like Sam Cassell.

7. Ratings to decide how often a player drives. And also, less jump stopping by the AI, and the occasional walk called on jumpstops (with a slider to adjust travel Frequency)

8. Better Practice features. I want team practices, and FT practices.

9. Signature moves for the legends. Hakeem's dream shake. Wilt's finger roll when standing. McHale's post moves. Julius Erving's under the basket and spinnig up imposible layups. Walton's jump hook. Nique's mid-air spin.

10. A clutch rating

Mon Dec 29, 2003 4:21 am

nice post! :D

Mon Dec 29, 2003 12:29 pm

o yea, another wish:
I wish that EA would make live 2005 and after, based on our wishes.

Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:37 am

I would like a Stat-Based rating system. I mean, instead of the current rating system, a would like a Stat-Based one. With this we could set all the player stats, including minutes per game. This will solve a lot of issues including how many minutes does a player will stay on court. Today, if u put Michael Curry as a starter, he will play around 35 minutes a game ( in the nba, he starts but plays 25 minutes tops ). For example, if i create a player with 29 ppg, we would score from 25 to 31 ppg. It would have an error margin %.

I also would like EA to bring back the custom teams and the clutch player rating ( who is better in a team at the end of the games )


Bfontes
Rio de Janeiro
Brazil

Tue Dec 30, 2003 6:01 am

Please add more Camera Options!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Among these please add a fixed camera. Please check out the early NBA Live games ( '96 for example) to see what I mean. Don't let the camera follow the ball everywhere it goes all the time especially when the zoom is set at minimum. I'd like the camera to be focused on the rim ( in the Press Box view) so it won't move up and down that much.
In a player's statistics menu I'd like to see the teams for which he played throughout his career by season. ( like in the earlier versions of Live).
If possible please add carrer highs for every player.
Please add more people sitting or standing and watching the game around the court ( not necessarily 3D). Please try to make the NBA Live atmosphere resemble the NBA real life atmosphere as much as possible.
:!:

Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:26 am

The New Season Setup After the First Dynasty Year
-Allow the user to do certain tasks concurrently/no order. Eg Allow you to try and re-sign players/trade players before/after/during the rookie draft
-Allow the user to view the ratings on the rookies
-Maybe give reasons why a player does not want to sign. (Eg doesn't like another player --> Then allow trading of that player, then re-sign. Doesn't like the team --> lost cause)
-Allow offers from the CPU. (Haven't seen this at the end of the season)
-Penalise teams over the salary cap (Dynasty points??)
-Is it possible to have actual $ amounts for salaries?
-Allow actions at the end of season (Eg extra training sessions costing X Dynasty points, allow workouts with free agents?)
I'm just throwing in some ideas. I could be the only one who wants these in... lol

Thu Jan 01, 2004 12:59 am

Most of that stuff I was gonna say. But heres a few for me:

-The commentators should be able to say all of the names of the players and generated rookies.

-Player development should be based on their stats instead of randomlt.
(I've seen kobe drop to an 80 and shaq to an 82 in 3 years)

-Although it doesnt happen as fast as in 2003, the CPU tends to sign every free agent available if you dont. They just cut the worst and sign the best, whereas it may happen in real life but not as often as in live.

-As far as freestyle, I'd like to see the CPU's ankles being broken. Not like(Live 2003 and 04) when you crossover and the player touches his toes and is still quick enough to get back on D and stop your drive. If you perform the 'Still-Leg crossover' (the one where you take that large fake step and bring it back) while your driving the CPU should fall backwards or stumble back or even take a step back instead of stop dead in its tracks and recovering like nothing happened. Also if you pull a big crossover the CPU should be left facing or running to the direction you faked.

-Get rid of that stupid sound when they dunk. Put a freakin microphone on the rim in a real NBA game so you can here what it sounds like! :evil:

-More variety of fancy dunks. A two-handed 360 would be better than that two handed double pump where he pulls his feet up while hanging on the rim. And also more dunks that hang on the rim afterwards. Like a one-hander that hangs on the rim and swings his body around or something. Also the movement of the rim and backboard should depend on who's dunking and what kind of dunk. If its Shaq on a two-handed power Jam it should almost break. If its shaq on a one-handed dunk it shouldnt move as much. If its Kobe on a two handed dunk it shouldnt move as much as Shaq on a two handed dunk. Bring back the reverse and windmill dunks. Maybe lob passes that go off of the backboard to the man you are throwing it to. And more variety of tipslams but they shouldnt happen as often. Maybe make it like NBA Street where turbo +jump= Tipslam. Also thet should add regular tips.

-When adjusting your layup or going dunk to layup it should look more realistic. Like in March Madness 2003. It looked very nice. You could go from a two-handed jam to an up-and-under layup. Or just double clutch. It wont ever happen that you jump from the foul line for a dunk and then change it into a floater while falling backwards-Its science baby! :P

About Dynasty-
CPU should offer trades more often. And draft picks should be traded more often.

And the AI should be smart enough to reorder there depth charts to get the best advantage. Like say you have Kobe and T-Mac on the same team. The CPU should move one to small forward. Then they get both stars on the floor at the same time.

Fix the free-agent bug

You should have to negotiate contracts with the Free Agents. Not just 30K a year for every free agent after the season starts.

INJURIES
In a game players should get injured more than just a leg, arm or back. Some should get poked in the eye. Some should hold their finger and shake their hand when they jam their fingers. Concussions should also happen.

Trainings

You should be able to buy training minutes instead of training sessions. So if you work long enough and get 400 training minutes, You can train for 100 minutes on each thing. Which IMPROVES your players.

Thu Jan 01, 2004 4:13 am

Good ideas RuffRyder (Y)

Sat Jan 03, 2004 7:04 am

Here are a few of my suggestions...

- Better contract signing routine. Do it NBA style, with true negotiation and not the wage-dictate style.

- Player loyalty / Franchise loyalty should be present. The more you use a player, the more loyal he is to the franchise etc.

- Simpler controls... KISS

- I love to watch games, rather than simulating them. But I really miss the ability to make some tactical calls while watching my guys play, and make substituions.

- Less blocky GUI graphics. I know these games hit the consoles as well, but try and spice it up a bit for the PC please.

Cheers

Sat Jan 03, 2004 10:52 am

- Better contract signing routine. Do it NBA style, with true negotiation and not the wage-dictate style.


I was kinda thinking that too. It should be the highest bidder wins. And more than one team should ask a player.

- Simpler controls... KISS

The controls arent that hard, unless you're a keyboard user.

-Also Full customization of controls for PC and Console users.

- I love to watch games, rather than simulating them. But I really miss the ability to make some tactical calls while watching my guys play, and make substituions.


Kinda like a coach mode in Live. Not a bad idea. You should be able to call plays and sets, make subs, and call for double teams, but not play the game at all.

Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:43 am

here's some...

- Larger shoe format... at least 150*150 pixels, 256*256 would be awsome
- Would be cool to be able to open/read the magazine...
- 'create-a-team'

Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:55 am

create your own dunks

Sun Jan 04, 2004 4:28 pm

My 2 simple wishes are:

1. Grant all the wishes since my wishes are their wishes.

2. What? :shock: no more plays in online games? :x Please EA bring
back the good old plays in an online game? I want to use my inside
triangle again!!!

Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:05 pm

-As tony said i would like to see college, high school, and nbdl scouting
*I would also like All-star week competition*
-Rookie vs. Sophmore Games
:D -Dunk and 3 pt. Contest :D
I also want more plays
ex. if shaq is the star more post plays
if it is a team such as utah more team oriented plays
-I would like interactive practices
ex. if your team loses you can make them run laps
if they win your can teach new plays or something like that
-Have some only some refs that show favoritism to the home team(home-town refs)
-Freethrow lane violations
not to say any name but mainly Shaq :wink:

a nice touch would be to have the papparazi on the floors

Lastly I want TECHS coaches and players
pretty please

Mon Jan 05, 2004 7:08 pm

sorry folks but some of your suggestions are completely nonsense and exaggerated.
EA should and is only able to concentrate on the most important issues, so stop posting unimportant wishes.
If we want EA to stick to our wishes we should make clear and few wishes!! Most of your suggestions won't be in the game 2005, they won't even be in the game in 2008.
I really want a better game next year and the year after next year, so everybody who wants the same let's make a serious wishlist no daydreaming. In my opinion EA should only deal with the very important issues => for me gameplay, cause that's what NBA Live is all about.
Surely, I would like to marry a certain wife which gives birth to 2 sons who later on will appear in the game, but it's not neccessary to have fun playing NBA Live
I don't want to insult or offend anybody, just want to have a great game!
So let's us help EA seriously.
Have a nice day
Hopsing

Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:09 pm

i agree with you Hopsing, some of these wishes are just outrageus.
they don't seem to think on how hard it would be to impleant such things in a years notice.
oh well...

Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:59 pm

For what it's worth, I do use my editorial rights when I compile the Wishlist. For example, one could post that you would like a virtual reality device to be included in every NBA Live box so that we could truly be in the game; but that's not feasible, so it won't be included in the list.

There are a lot of good wishes, many of which are extensions of current concepts and improvements to existing features. I think we manage to compile a pretty good list every year. (Y)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:37 am

Yohance Bailey wrote:

Pixel shaders

This can be used to make players look sweaty ingame. For reference...once again..see Doom 3 screenshots or Max payne 2 screens. You can even check out ingame screens of Espn Basketball to get an idea of what it looks like.

Real time lighting/shadows

This one is not as important as the rest but it definitely adds alot of reaslism. (see Doom 3 screens..lol). Currently in live...places like the urban court..the buildings and players cast shadows on surfaces...but have you ever seen a shadow from another player or the evironment being cast on other players? Have you ever seen light move during gameplay? Think about that for a second.

Havoc Physics/Ragdoll physics

..Play or look at Max Payne 2 videos to have an idea of what it looks like. Even better...play Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance(kickass game btw). Notice how the player's hair move..as well their clothes? I think if nba live added these physics it would make the game look 100% more realistic. Think of it...nowitski and larry bird with hair that bounce....spree doing the toma hawk and his uniform flails about. Out of all these graphical improvements, i'd love to see this the most.


I'd love to see those 2 included in particular, and for people with worse video cards it should be an on off option like the game's detail and all the video options. i agree with yohance this would make the game incredibly realistic looking, i'd also like to see:

Improved dynasty mode
Be an owner and be able to hire/fire gms, coaches, and staff.
Be able to negotiate with the free agents
An improved draft which is to scale with the rest of the league (no guys who are 80 going #1)

Also dahl found that custom team maker which ea didnt include this year apperently, i think it'd be a nice tool to put in the game, along with a dunk contest and 3 point shoot out. Of cource this wouldn't make or break if the games a success, i think just they'd be cool features to add in.

I'm very happy with the improvement of gameplay this year however, if they make the rebounding ai better (ie more offensive boards) it'd be great.

Most of all how ever, i want custom art to work :roll:

Thu Jan 08, 2004 6:19 am

A better dynasty mode.
1. It would be cool to have some options similar to that of NHL 2004...such as having the ability to control the ticket prices of the games for your own team.

2. Better FA signing options and your own players before they are FA's.

Also the empty crowd in the stands for regular season games...this has to be fixed...having an empty stadium is stupid...especially if it's a big game.

Thu Jan 08, 2004 2:11 pm

Make it a option to make the controls similar to that of the NBA Lives on PS2, XBox, etc... I use a Playstation controller and it is frustating not being able to control my team as if I were playing on my PS2.

Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:00 pm

Please keep: (Y)
* all the authentic stadiums
* real brand shoes (Nike, Addidas etc..)
* marv and fratello
* SLIDERS! I love having sliders in this game!
* mitchell and ness retro jerseys (add more)
* the NBA Inside Stuff magazine in dynasty mode--but make it like the NCAA magazine feature
* keep the player rating system intact
* keep the atmosphere --I love it! Add more chants and more booing! Louder more emotion!

Please Add
* a better custom art feature or FIX the custom art feature
* the ability to use higher resolutions ingame
* (PC)let us edit headshapes!
*(PC) let us add our music like Madden 2004--where we just put a directory and it automatically shows the name and artist
* have the bench players look like bench players with warm-ups etc..
* please take out the whole intro in dynasty mode where marv talks about a star player before the game--it's really dumb--just put in player introductions instead.
* the option to ADD our own ingame ditties--I don't even want to erase EA's original ditties--but I just want to add some of my own! C'mon EA!

DYNASTY MODE
* Multi-player dynasty mode
* the ability to re-locate your team ala madden 2004
* a deeper dynasty mode
* give us the ability to edit upcoming draft picks and there ratings
* in-game injuries lasting more than just that one game.
* (PC) ability to add nicknames that the announcers will say instead of out numbers -patched players that is.
* online dynasty /franchise mode
* make the crowds in the regular season reflect each team's performance--we know that a Lakers game will be sold out--but a Bucks or Hawks game won't. It sucks that i was playing the number 2 team in the east and the game wasn't sold out.
* ALL-STAR weekend! Find a way to implement it to our dynasty--add the events like the 3point contest, and rookie game
* A team practice mode in dynasty mode--so we can work on plays and moves.
*

Gameplay

* fix the little glitches like the fast inbounding bug
* let the users determine sub patterns
* offensive rebounding needs to be tweaked ( a little)--or make the offensive rebound slider mean something
* make the dunks sound like nba dunks not a cannonball being shot
* Add more dribbling animations
* add more lines of commentary for Marv and frat
* tweak the pro-hop, so that it can't be abused--via slider
* maybe some more ingame animations--like a chest bump after a 3point play, or some dap after the first free throw, free throw rituals
* let us/user pick who shoots the free throw on techs or injuries


that's all i can think of right now--but the most important wish

MAKE LIVE 2005 for the PC!!

Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:08 pm

RELEASE A PATCH FOR LIVE 2004 TO FIX SOME OF THIS STUFF FIRST.........

Please keep:
* all the authentic stadiums
* real brand shoes (Nike, Addidas etc..)
* marv and fratello
* SLIDERS! I love having sliders in this game!
* mitchell and ness retro jerseys (add more)
* the NBA Inside Stuff magazine in dynasty mode--but make it like the NCAA magazine feature
* keep the player rating system intact
* keep the atmosphere --I love it! Add more chants and more booing! Louder more emotion!

Please Add
* a better custom art feature or FIX the custom art feature
* the ability to use higher resolutions ingame
* (PC)let us edit headshapes!
*(PC) let us add our music like Madden 2004--where we just put a directory and it automatically shows the name and artist
* have the bench players look like bench players with warm-ups etc..
* please take out the whole intro in dynasty mode where marv talks about a star player before the game--it's really dumb--just put in player introductions instead.
* the option to ADD our own ingame ditties--I don't even want to erase EA's original ditties--but I just want to add some of my own! C'mon EA!

DYNASTY MODE
* Multi-player dynasty mode
* the ability to re-locate your team ala madden 2004
* a deeper dynasty mode
* give us the ability to edit upcoming draft picks and there ratings
* in-game injuries lasting more than just that one game.
* (PC) ability to add nicknames that the announcers will say instead of out numbers -patched players that is.
* online dynasty /franchise mode
* make the crowds in the regular season reflect each team's performance--we know that a Lakers game will be sold out--but a Bucks or Hawks game won't. It sucks that i was playing the number 2 team in the east and the game wasn't sold out.
* ALL-STAR weekend! Find a way to implement it to our dynasty--add the events like the 3point contest, and rookie game
* A team practice mode in dynasty mode--so we can work on plays and moves.
*

Gameplay

* fix the little glitches like the fast inbounding bug
* let the users determine sub patterns
* offensive rebounding needs to be tweaked ( a little)--or make the offensive rebound slider mean something
* make the dunks sound like nba dunks not a cannonball being shot
* Add more dribbling animations
* add more lines of commentary for Marv and frat
* tweak the pro-hop, so that it can't be abused--via slider
* maybe some more ingame animations--like a chest bump after a 3point play, or some dap after the first free throw, free throw rituals
* let us/user pick who shoots the free throw on techs or injuries

Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:29 pm

Ability to adjust passing - let the player decide if he wants to play a standard, bounce or lob pass.

Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:25 pm

tmac just got 58 points and 8 blocks.

-i want less blocks on the perimeter. small forwards and shooting guards get 5 blocks every game if the player he matches up on has a three point shot. today i played a game where tim duncan got 0 blocks and bruce bowen got 3, turkoglu 3, and ron mercer 2.

-get rid of that step back bullshit where every time a player gets contact he steps back. starts out at the foul line, ends up at half court because of repeatedly stepping back.

-the only way to beat your defender from the perimeter is to pro hop

-i had a game where the pistons got 20 blocks. tayshawn prince getting 10 of them.

-baron davis shot 21 three pointers in one game.

-too many layups. too many three-pointers. besides these two type of shots, there is hardly any other range shot.

Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:18 am

Create-A-Player

* Give us the ability to create a face. Let us select different eyes, nose, mouth, etc. Right now we get to pick one of 30 faces and adjust these features. It'd be nice if we could pick the player's skin color through the use of color sliders rather than through what face you choose.

* Give us more options for a players size. It'd be nice if you could have sliders to adjust a player's size rather than selecting from one of the few presets.

* Tattoos. Tattoos should come in the form of a picture you can move around and place where you see fit. (i.e.: you pick a snake and are given the option to place it on the r. arm, l. arm, r. leg, l. leg. Once you select the body part you can move it around on the limb using the d-pad or analog until it's right where you want it.)

* Set a higher limit for a player's weight. There are more than enough players who weigh more than the limit.

* Implement many of the suggestions for new ratings sliders posted in this thread.

* More nicknames. Is it just me or does it completely suck that they used the exact names as last year? NBA Street (while a sucky game) was a ton of nicknames. Live should have at least as many as them.

* Details! I'd love it if I could give my CAP a headband with his initials on it or a wristband with a logo or something. Eye color should be changeable. Arm length, leg length, and various other obvious things should be changeable. I hate CAPs because they all look the same. This could be easily fixed with the suggestions I've made. It feels like I'm running my CAP through a factory. One of my favorite things in WWE SmackDown! is creating players because there are so many options that no two look the same. Live has always needed help with the Create-A-Player and it's time to stop avoiding it.

Gameplay

* Repair the horrible player reaction. This really gets me mad. I understand when the players jump to catch a ball that was heaved. I understand when the players jump to catch a ball that was tossed from the 3-point line to them in the paint. What I don't understand is why when the player lands it takes them 3 seconds to regain his balance. I've lost 2 games now because I decided to pass with 4 seconds on the clock and the player takes too long to shoot because he's reacting to the shear force with which he landed.

* Bouncing off of other players should be lessened. Okay, if I was in a real NBA game and continued to walk into the ball-handler, pushing him further and further away from the basket, I would get called for a foul. Second, both me and the ball-handler would have to be made of rubber to bounce in the manner in which the players in NBA Live bounce.

Misc.

* Dunk contest! Everyone has requested it. I don't care if you put in a dunk contest that sucks. Just put anything in there. I just want a dunk contest. Suggestions: That create a dunk thing everyone keeps mentioning. How about you put it in here and allow players to create dunks before going into the contest. If the dunks are created poorly, the player will mess up in the contest by missing them.

* 3-Point contest! Everyone has requested it. I don't care if you put in a 3-point contest that sucks. Just put anything in there. I just want a 3-point contest. This can't be that hard. You had one in here before.

* Repair commentary errors. I've heard a lot of people complain that when they score 30 points with a good player, the commentator will either say he had an average game or he didn't perform as good as usual. Commentators should look at all aspects of that players game and not wait until they have 70 points to praise them as having a good game.[/b]
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