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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby JaoSming on Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:16 am

I thought it was handled OK overall, but laid out like that it makes it sound filthy
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Qballer on Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:16 am

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this has got to be fake considering WWE (and in this case, any company's) stance on what get released by their employees... but if this is somehow real, this Brad Maddox guy gets mad props
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Fri Nov 23, 2012 8:52 am

Looks like someone's just taken clips of the real show he did (as acknowledged here) and then added other clips, passing themselves off as him.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby JaoSming on Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:33 pm

from PWinsider's recap
Thumbs up show all the way. Good storytelling. Lots of good wrestling up and down the show with clean finishes and the main event was solid with the finish meant to build the issues between Hogan, Ray and Aries, so you can give them a pass on the DQ. Hulk Hogan and Brooke Hogan were way better tonight than any other time I can remember them on Impact. You can see they are slowly building lots of possible/eventual reveals and the pacing was great, far superior to Raw of late. If you haven't been watching Impact, now is a great time to start.


of course I couldnt watch tonight (sick baby) but from the recap it does sound muy buen
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby formyhunny on Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:57 pm

Speaking of Impact, they are gonna have Lockdown at the Alamodome. LOL
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So I wonder how many seats will they sell. :lol:
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby dei. on Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:26 am

From the Botchamania page

• If this year ends without John Cena winning a championship, it will mark the first calendar year since 2003 that Cena hasn't held a championship.

• If CM Punk remains WWE Champion through December 31st, he will become the first man to hold the title for a full calendar year since Hulk Hogan. (Hogan's first WWE Championship reign, which lasted from 1984 to 1988, saw him hold the title through all of 1985, 1986, and 1987.)


Wow
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:31 am

Wow indeed. They may not exactly be firing on all cylinders with their booking and angles, but it's commendable that they've avoided having Cena dominating the championship scene (a few title shots is fine, he is still a top draw for them after all) and gone old school with Punk's reign, in an era where short, multiple reigns have become commonplace.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby dei. on Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:53 am

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"Wrestling supposed to be fun"
shadowgrin wrote:Quick question: who is better in basketball, a black dude or a pinoy dude. If you thought or considered for a moment that it's the black dude then you're also a little bit racist.

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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Qballer on Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:53 pm

antonio cesaro continues to impress me. i love his creative ways of getting his uppercut into the match plus he's a great performer all-around. if you dont watch wwe regularly, you need to watch this guy
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby koberulz on Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:49 am

Or you could just get the KoW ROH DVD and not have to put up with the other shit WWE insists on serving up.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:32 am

I haven't watched WWE since after SummerSlam this year. That's how bad I think WWE is right now.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:58 am

I keep up with the results and news, but it's difficult to sit down and watch the shows.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby JaoSming on Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:05 am

TNA was pretty damn good last night. Titties, "bullshit", and the usual in-ring and storyline progression greatness.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:50 am

WWE To Release New Bret Hart DVD, Plans For A Sequel To His Autobiography

WWE will be releasing another Bret Hart DVD next year. The current title is Bret “Hit Man” Hart: The Dungeon Collection and the set is expected out in March 2013.

Speaking of Hart, he’s been working on a sequel to his critically acclaimed autobiography, My Real Life in the Cartoon World of Wrestling. Topics addressed will be his life since his last book and reconciling with WWE.


I'll be picking up both once they've available. His last book was a great read, a great insight into the business.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby dei. on Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:11 pm

Andrew wrote:I keep up with the results and news, but it's difficult to sit down and watch the shows.


Add that with the constant negativity and some internet stuff, it's hard to even watch a PPV. I was I can be like that botchamania guy and can just enjoy stuff by liking someone and hating whoever he is feuding with.
shadowgrin wrote:Quick question: who is better in basketball, a black dude or a pinoy dude. If you thought or considered for a moment that it's the black dude then you're also a little bit racist.

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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Qballer on Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:39 pm

JaoSming wrote: Titties

:?: link me
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:18 pm

I read "titles."

Carry on, people.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby JaoSming on Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:25 am

well, this is relevant. Someone calling for "Attitude" in TNA and someone just slamming him. Good read IMO, best thing on WrestleZone for quite some time.
http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthrea ... ost4242779

I was watching "Impact" this week, and it had Aces & Eights partying with hot girls. D-Von was receiving a lapdance, the A & 8 leader stuck money down a girl's top, and it showed one girl giving the other a lapdance (HLA).

Later that night, both Velvet Sky and Brooke Hogan came down to the ring, showing a lot of cleavage (thank you!).

It got me thinking. All I ever read about on this site is people bitching and moaning about wanting the "Attitude Era" back. Apparently, people don't watch WWE now, because it is PG. Linda McMahon's Senate campaign has made sure "Attitude" won't be back in WWE for a long time.

TNA likes to copy WWE. They sign up anybody who leaves WWE.

So, why doesn't TNA do what WWE won't, and have their own "Attitude Era"? Cursing, beer-drinking, Bra-& -Panties Matches, controversial storylines etc.

TNA should go for rauch, controversy, and violence. Use blood constantly on PPV, make the Knockouts Division strong by having Bra-&-Panties matches and Knockouts Hardcore Matches. ODB should get the KO title, and act like a female "Stone Cold" Steve Austin.

Use the cage more, use tables often. I would use this Bully Ray-Hogan tension as the start of things. Bully should become champion, and be a defiant rebel, who does things his own way, while Hogan tries to pull him back into line.

There should be storylines which are very controversial, and haven't been done since the "Attitude Era", or ECW. Have the "Attitude Era" return, and its new home is TNA. TNA should try to beat WWE at its own game.

I think that this is the best way to compete with WWE, who are appealing to PG TV. TNA should be more R-rated TV, and give the wrestling fans things that WWE won't anymore.

Unless Dixie Carter is running for the Senate, there is no reason for TNA to not go down this path. At least they may capture the disillusioned WWE fans, who won't watch WWE anymore, but did when "Attitude" was alive.

1. TNA needs cursing - you must've missed 2010 and 2011 TNA. You were probably taking a piss when Angle went on a curse fiesta on Hogan and threatened he'd call up Vince "right now". Or maybe you should watch more carefully during Pay-Per-Views when either Roode or Aries would squirt out the occasional "fuck" or "shit" on TV. Not to mention that Scott Steiner was on their roster. End of story.

2. They need more beer-drinking - if you mean literally, say hello to James Storm. Since this dude split with Bobby Roode, beer bottles have been flying around the Impact Barn Zone. If you mean attitude wise, again, watch James Storm. He's your beer drinker type. Or Bully Ray or Kid Kash. When Stone Cold was around he was one of the few "beer drinker" type badasses. That's how it's supposed to be. Otherwise it's overkill.

3. Bra and Panties matches - they don't have those but they really don't need them. Why? It's not 1998, son! The Internet is FULL of porn. All kinds. Naked chicks are literally 3-4 clicks away. There's nothing controversial about showing a woman in her bikini these days. It would be if she was naked with a dildo up her ass and none of it was censored.

4. Controversial Storylines - All I'll say is this: AJ Styles was accused of banging Dixie Carter but they were protecting a pregnan crack whore who tried to prove that AJ is the father of her crack baby.

Not enough?

Jeff Jarrett and Karen Angle used Kurt Angle's kids as leverage in a storyline. Not too bad, except that Karen Angle is Kurt's ex-wife and them kids you saw were Kurt's ACTUAL children and that was probably the situation in real life - Kurt not seeing them all the time and Jeff being their new 'daddy'.

Fact is, TNA's been controversial and edgy and whatnot for 3 years now. If not more. You had tons of blood with Flair and Abyss around, you have Attitude with Aries, Bully, Storm, Roode and even Daniels. You have sexy, dirty stuff with the women now and then. You have controversial storylines.

In the end, it's done what? Absolutely nothing. And no, not because people are "over" the Attitude Era. They're not. It's because the landscape of modern Television has changed. Back in the 90's you didn't have a lot of cursing, blood and sex on TV. Wrestling did and it was different. THAT'S why it was successful. Not because it was blood and boobs, but because blood and boobs were DIFFERENT.

Showing blood and boobs now will do nothing. I can switch over to Breaking Bad and see all the blood and gore I want. If I'm not satisfied I can watch the Walking Dead and damn near puke with a fucking smile on my face. If I want boobs I can find porn on the Internet or just switch to the Disney channel, plenty of whores there. Controversy? One of the aforementioned shows should do.

TNA is in a slump not because they're not doing enough "edgy" stuff, but because the scale of their content does not allow them to increase the edginess. Let's fucking face it, no one likes kid shit, PG crap and basically WWE's bullshit. People want edgy, they want new, they want unique and they want shocking. Look at the top shows on TV and you'll know what I mean. Add to that a good dialogue, stories, production and you got yourself a hit TV show in 2012.

Wrestling can't do that. At the end of the day it's a TV show with its own boundaries. If writers had people killed on TV it wouldn't make sense. If they had SUPER edgy storylines it wouldn't make sense because of wrestling's inherent cheesiness. If they had boobs it wouldn't work.

Essentially, wrestling is one-upped in those departments by modern Television and that's a fact. Until wrestling finds a way to produce content that comes close or AT LEAST matches the different qualities of the top shows on TV, both WWE and TNA can forget about getting out of the respectives slumps they are in. People want good Television, regardless of genre. Wrestling is not providing it, thus wrestling is dying.

I see wrestling as this delusional macho dude who walks around pointing at the tattoo on his triceps, saying "fuck" a lot and acting like a rebel. What this fella doesn't realize is that THIS behavior was edgy and rebellious in the 90's and before that. Elvis Presley shaking his hips in the 50's was considered dirty to the point where Ed Sullivan would shoot him only fromt he waist up. What wrestling's trying to do is shake its hips in 2012, think it's rebellious and sexual, while every other musician out there is performing half naked, licking marmallade off some chick's firm tits while they're both on fire.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby koberulz on Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:51 am

The other thing is that 'attitude' for the sake of 'attitude' is just pointless. The whole "Use blood constantly on PPV" thing is completely moronic, because it ceases to mean anything.

TNA need to get their shit together production-wise. There was an out-of-sync backstage segment a while back, Angle's entrance cut off Chavo this week, and there were a couple of other instances of things playing when they shouldn't the week before. I wish they'd stop the Hardy's Internal Monologue spots, too; they're just absurd.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby JaoSming on Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:02 am

koberulz wrote:TNA need to get their shit together production-wise.

I disagree, it is top-notch
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Qballer on Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:36 am

that article was a good read. made a lot of sense
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby JaoSming on Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:38 am

wasn't an article, forum post
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:27 am

I'd agree it's spot on. It also applies to the WWE as well, who don't need to bring back the Attitude Era but rather just need to book more coherent angles that don't insult our intelligence.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby JaoSming on Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:45 pm

Well, TNA's PPV has been terrible. Terrible in-ring (which is weird), terrible "swerves" or endings involving managers etc, terrible commentary, just....boo. No idea if Daniels and AJ can save this.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby dei. on Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:36 pm

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Ric Flair's awesome :lol:
shadowgrin wrote:Quick question: who is better in basketball, a black dude or a pinoy dude. If you thought or considered for a moment that it's the black dude then you're also a little bit racist.

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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby JaoSming on Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:12 am

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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby JaoSming on Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:37 pm

holy shit omg wtf bbq etc so forth wow wow wow wow wow

best match I've seen in WWE since a Taker match.....just wow



lol, now lets try to enjoy a "chairs" match, woo.......yeh
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby formyhunny on Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:52 pm

JaoSming wrote:holy shit omg wtf bbq etc so forth wow wow wow wow wow

best match I've seen in WWE since a Taker match.....just wow



lol, now lets try to enjoy a "chairs" match, woo.......yeh

That match should have definitely been the main event.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:31 pm

Haven't seen it yet, but have been hearing good things. Certainly an unexpected ending to Cena/Ziggler, as well.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby dei. on Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:13 am

Crazy bump by Sin Cara. You expect something a bump like that from Dolph Ziggler
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Postby Andrew on Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:21 am

Insane bump.
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Postby JaoSming on Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:00 am

I felt this was worse
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someone did a full video recap of the show in 6 minutes.....dat 6 man match....
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Postby Andrew on Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:21 am

Gonna have to check out the match. (Y)
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Postby formyhunny on Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:23 am

Andrew wrote:Gonna have to check out the match. (Y)

Was the best match of the night. Cena vs Ziggler was pretty good too in my opinion, but the ending was predictable.
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Postby dei. on Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:37 pm

no love for the Sin Cara bump? :(
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby bowdown on Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:41 pm

LMFAO. Look at all these grown ass men discussing WWE. WWE is for little kids who are going to grow up to be bitch niggas. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA


jk though. Ive heard they are making the programming edgier again. I havent watched it in a long time but may tune in if it isnt silly as fuck anymore. Perhaps superstars who are good actors would also help. I dont really feel like they know how to sell emotions very well.

Triple H was a wonderful asshole villian. Mick Foley was an amazing "genuine good guy". Stone cold was the perfect unpredictable angry guy and so on
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby JaoSming on Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:41 pm

dei. wrote:no love for the Sin Cara bump? :(

shocked the hell out of me when it happened, in real time. the replays made it more meh, but I was concerned about his head for a bit
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Qballer on Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:41 pm

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dei. wrote:no love for the Sin Cara bump? :(

shocked the hell out of me when it happened, in real time.

i would agree on this one.

my favorite was the double suplex onto the ladder by ryback, except that one dude oversold it but it was still nice. the two-man superplex off the top was something you don't see very often. don't recall if i've ever seen that before
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby koberulz on Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:37 pm

Qballer wrote:antonio cesaro continues to impress me. i love his creative ways of getting his uppercut into the match plus he's a great performer all-around. if you dont watch wwe regularly, you need to watch this guy
koberulz wrote:Or you could just get the KoW ROH DVD and not have to put up with the other shit WWE insists on serving up.

Better yet...
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Lean on Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:46 pm

Dolph actually main eventing?!? :shock:

And I thought Rollins is the NXT champ?
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby formyhunny on Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:55 pm

Lean wrote:And I thought Rollins is the NXT champ?


Rollins lost the belt to Big E Langston a couple of weeks ago, as NXT films a month's worth of episodes in days, so that episode should air soon.
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Postby Lean on Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:45 pm

Figures. I thought he's supposed to carry the belt while appearing on the main shows to represent NXT. Did they even mention he's formerNXT champion?
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Postby Qballer on Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:23 am

the IC belt & tag titles have very little prestige left, what makes you think being the former NXT champ will impress anyone?
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:25 pm

Those belts have been treated a little better lately, though they're still largely overlooked. I think acknowledging him as the NXT Champion would be more about establishing his backstory though, while giving some more attention to their developmental system on the major shows.
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby dei. on Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:44 am

John Cena having the first match on RAW
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Punk and The Rock having an awesome "confrontation" for the last 30 minutes
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Re: Professional Wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, etc)

Postby Andrew on Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:46 am

I've heard the promo between Rock and Punk was awesome, so I'm going to catch RAW when it airs here tonight. With The Rock pretty much being a full-time performer up until Wrestlemania, it's piqued my interest.
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Postby dei. on Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:42 am

The promo of Punk before The Rock comes is like the worked shoot he done like 2 years ago. That was good as well.
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Postby Lean on Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:28 pm

I went on and checked that segment. Good piece of promo from both guys. Rock was typical Rock, and Punk just killed it. Nicely done. I still hope though, that Punk retains at the Rumble and have Rock face him again at WrestleMania after Rock goes on and work on a regular schedule for three months.

Also Del Rio is now World Heavyweight Champion.
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Postby Andrew on Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:18 am

I think you have to have Rock go over at the Rumble then "pass the torch" at Wrestlemania. Since he's going to be full-time through Wrestlemania, it's not going to devalue the belt. Plus, it's The Rock; it's not like putting the title on David Arquette.
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