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[Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby maumau78 on Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:57 pm

Hi All!

If you were a fan like me of editing body lenght / torso etc you will notice that that option is no longer available in 2k18; well I think we can change that since seems 2k has moved those parameters inside the PNG file

So open the desired PNG file with 7-zip and look for appearance_info.RDAT:

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So for example below I exchanged parameters of Durant Body into Lebron...et voila! We've changed body proportions!


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That's great for modding perspective becouse modder not only can edit the 3d but also release correct body proportions..also I think you can change more than just leg / torso / shoulder size

Hope this help !
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby CarolusXCI on Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:04 pm

Great!!!
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Postby DanREZx0 on Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:36 pm

Too complicated? :crazyeyes:
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Postby TGsoGood on Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:44 pm

I think this is better than doing it in blender because the accessories will still fit.
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby LitDRCat on Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:48 pm

Great work~!
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Postby Nikolai1510 on Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:34 pm

Sory i'm stupid) where can i find this PNG file?
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby maumau78 on Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:45 pm

Nikolai1510 wrote:Sory i'm stupid) where can i find this PNG file?


You need to extract them using explorer...and you can find a list of player<->png over NLSC forums....

for example Lebron is png1013.iff
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby Nikolai1510 on Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:05 pm

maumau78 wrote:
Nikolai1510 wrote:Sory i'm stupid) where can i find this PNG file?


You need to extract them using explorer...and you can find a list of player<->png over NLSC forums....

for example Lebron is png1013.iff

Man can you please make a video guide? i'm novice. and i'm very angry of theese 2k body types of some players, and want to change them alot. please give us youtube guide :bowdown:
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Postby Jonny2k on Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:08 am

Can this work for editing jersey number location?
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby PeacemanNOT on Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:33 am

Great news, I wish these values stood for the actual body types sizes and not the length etc.
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby maumau78 on Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:52 am

PeacemanNOT wrote:Great news, I wish these values stood for the actual body types sizes and not the length etc.

In my opinion it's not just lenght....also size of body parts but I need to dig into it....
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby Nikolai1510 on Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:23 am

As i understand by steps.
1) Export (Durant and James png's with 2k17 Explorer)
2) Open Durant Png with 7zip, find appearance_info.RDAT, copy all
3) Open James png, find appearance_info.RDAT, paste all, save
4) Go to explorer and Import James png with new parametrs of appearance_info.RDAT

Am I wright?
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby maumau78 on Wed Sep 20, 2017 5:25 am

Nikolai1510 wrote:As i understand by steps.
1) Export (Durant and James png's with 2k17 Explorer)
2) Open Durant Png with 7zip, find appearance_info.RDAT, copy all
3) Open James png, find appearance_info.RDAT, paste all, save
4) Go to explorer and Import James png with new parametrs of appearance_info.RDAT

Am I wright?


4) No just use "loading plugin" put the edited file into modded folder
2-3) Copy what you need not all
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby Nikolai1510 on Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:17 am

maumau78 wrote:
Nikolai1510 wrote:As i understand by steps.
1) Export (Durant and James png's with 2k17 Explorer)
2) Open Durant Png with 7zip, find appearance_info.RDAT, copy all
3) Open James png, find appearance_info.RDAT, paste all, save
4) Go to explorer and Import James png with new parametrs of appearance_info.RDAT

Am I wright?


4) No just use "loading plugin" put the edited file into modded folder
2-3) Copy what you need not all

ok thanks. sorry but if i want to change hand length, what parametrs i must edit? only arms? or whole body :roll:
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Postby bongo88 on Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:29 am

u566uta_98_current_away.RDAT
u566uta_98_current_home.RDAT

these are found in the iff files. uniforms for 98 jazz team.

"SHORTS TYPE": "NONE" in original game had long baggy shorts.
"SHORTS TYPE": "RETRO" changed to retro had short retro shorts.

also other options in the rdat file about uniforms:

"JERSEY TYPE": "classic_v_neck",
"SHORTS TYPE": "RETRO",
"COLORIZED NUMBERS": "FALSE",
"SHORTS NUMBERS": "FALSE",
"NO NBA PATCH": "FALSE",
"FRONT NUMBER ALIGNMENT": "CENTERED",
"UPPER NAME PLATE STYLE": "LAST",
"LOWER NAME PLATE STYLE": "NONE",
"PATCH": "NBA"

the 96 bulls have this as jersey type: "JERSEY TYPE": "classic_u_neck"
havent looked through many uniforms. just 98 jazz and 96 bulls.
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Postby MkElite on Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:26 am

but does this allow editing the actual height?
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Postby TGsoGood on Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:04 am

MkElite wrote:but does this allow editing the actual height?

No height is edited in game.
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby Nikolai1510 on Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:55 am

Dont know why but when i just edited "Normal" muscle type instead of "Ripped" in "appearance_info.RDAT" and then put edited png file into "modded" folder my game crush. Maybe i use bad version of 7zip :x even dont know
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby CarolusXCI on Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:46 am

Nikolai1510 wrote:Dont know why but when i just edited "Normal" muscle type instead of "Ripped" in "appearance_info.RDAT" and then put edited png file into "modded" folder my game crush. Maybe i use bad version of 7zip :x even dont know


Try to edit the RDAT file without extracting it. Right click on the file, then "open outside". After editing it, there will be a message saying you changed some stuff and blah blah. Just click on OK.
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby Nikolai1510 on Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:51 am

CarolusXCI wrote:
Nikolai1510 wrote:Dont know why but when i just edited "Normal" muscle type instead of "Ripped" in "appearance_info.RDAT" and then put edited png file into "modded" folder my game crush. Maybe i use bad version of 7zip :x even dont know


Try to edit the RDAT file without extracting it. Right click on the file, then "open outside". After editing it, there will be a message saying you changed some stuff and blah blah. Just click on OK.

I've Just does all that you say. After editing "appearance_info.RDAT" when i try to edit player in roster, the game crushes. Thanks for the answer
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby eko718 on Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:36 am

Same here. I only edited the upper arm value and it is causing the game to crash.
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby eko718 on Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:42 am

So I tried this with Notepad++ and it worked. I extracted the file, edited it, deleted from archive and added the modded file.
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Postby TGsoGood on Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:49 am

I think editing in regular notepad causes the file not save correctly as rdat file. I had the same issue in 2K17
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby eko718 on Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:09 pm

Arm size does not seem to change via this method.
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Postby Nikolai1510 on Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:35 pm

eko718 wrote:So I tried this with Notepad++ and it worked. I extracted the file, edited it, deleted from archive and added the modded file.

Big thanks to you Man ! :bowdown2:
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Postby mitzkiro58 on Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:23 pm

i use notepad pro or notepad++ worked to saves edit appearances. regular windows notepad causes to crash the game. :bowdown:
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby mitzkiro58 on Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:28 pm

I changed the body type and muscle thin ripped from regular body type of Isaiah Austin. (Y)

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Postby mitzkiro58 on Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:36 pm

Nikolai1510 wrote:
CarolusXCI wrote:
Nikolai1510 wrote:Dont know why but when i just edited "Normal" muscle type instead of "Ripped" in "appearance_info.RDAT" and then put edited png file into "modded" folder my game crush. Maybe i use bad version of 7zip :x even dont know


Try to edit the RDAT file without extracting it. Right click on the file, then "open outside". After editing it, there will be a message saying you changed some stuff and blah blah. Just click on OK.

I've Just does all that you say. After editing "appearance_info.RDAT" when i try to edit player in roster, the game crushes. Thanks for the answer


It worked for me open outside as notepad pro or notepad++ than regular windows notepad. :D
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Postby TGsoGood on Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:45 pm

mitzkiro58 wrote:I changed the body type and muscle thin ripped from regular body type of Isaiah Austin. (Y)

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This looks exactly the same to me.
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Postby PeacemanNOT on Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:51 pm

TGsoGood wrote:
mitzkiro58 wrote:I changed the body type and muscle thin ripped from regular body type of Isaiah Austin. (Y)

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This looks exactly the same to me.

There's a little difference if you zoom into the two pictures.
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby TGsoGood on Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:59 pm

from what I can tell, players all have the same base body. You can add muscle definiton, you can change the wingspan.
But there are no fat players, there are no skinny players, all players are "average". Even in the png files the body types say "average".
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Postby Nikolai1510 on Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:35 am

It seem to me that Trey Burke and Galloway has 2k17 bodytypes or some kind of that. unfortunatly there are no way to change them( but as for others bodytypes, yes its works :?
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Postby mitzkiro58 on Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:37 am

TGsoGood wrote:from what I can tell, players all have the same base body. You can add muscle definiton, you can change the wingspan.
But there are no fat players, there are no skinny players, all players are "average". Even in the png files the body types say "average".


yes all players body type always average can't find to change it. :?
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Postby mitzkiro58 on Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:38 am

Nikolai1510 wrote:It seem to me that Trey Burke and Galloway has 2k17 bodytypes or some kind of that. unfortunatly there are no way to change them( but as for others bodytypes, yes its works :?


what's png trey burke and galloway?
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Postby TGsoGood on Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:43 am

Nikolai1510 wrote:It seem to me that Trey Burke and Galloway has 2k17 bodytypes or some kind of that. unfortunatly there are no way to change them( but as for others bodytypes, yes its works :?


They don't have 2K17 bodies, I just checked.
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Postby Nikolai1510 on Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:00 am

I'm sorry but....is there anybody who can change Burke, Galloway and Wall bodies, cause i'm sick and tired to change them.... :evil:
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Postby eko718 on Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:59 am

I was just really trying to correct D Wades arms, as for some reason they are extremely skinny. Body modifications work but not arms. I even copied a different players body type but the arms stayed the same while everything else changed.
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Postby TGsoGood on Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:01 am

eko718 wrote:I was just really trying to correct D Wades arms, as for some reason they are extremely skinny. Body modifications work but not arms. I even copied a different players body type but the arms stayed the same while everything else changed.


Edit the 3d model, I'm pretty sure that is the only way.
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Postby eko718 on Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:05 am

Yeah was thinking that's probably the only way. I haven't done that before but I guess I can look into it.
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Postby DanREZx0 on Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:17 am

mitzkiro58 wrote:I changed the body type and muscle thin ripped from regular body type of Isaiah Austin. (Y)

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he is ingame? :shock: cant find him
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Postby mitzkiro58 on Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:48 pm

DanREZx0 wrote:
mitzkiro58 wrote:I changed the body type and muscle thin ripped from regular body type of Isaiah Austin. (Y)

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he is ingame? :shock: cant find him



Use Limnono 2k18. Find Isaiah Austin and his CF ID is 4266
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Postby DanREZx0 on Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:10 pm

mitzkiro58 wrote:
DanREZx0 wrote:
mitzkiro58 wrote:I changed the body type and muscle thin ripped from regular body type of Isaiah Austin. (Y)

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he is ingame? :shock: cant find him



Use Limnono 2k18. Find Isaiah Austin and his CF ID is 4266
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found him but his head is too big Xd
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Postby TGsoGood on Sun Sep 24, 2017 8:27 pm

They all have big heads
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby eko718 on Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:18 pm

Another quick observation on this. The fields like "upperarmTHICK" in the appearance dat file affect how the arm looks with accessories on. Probably the same for the leg edits but I haven't looked at that. They do not affect the actual body however. Durant's arm can look like Shaq with a full arm sleeve and normal once the accessories are removed.
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby TGsoGood on Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:00 pm

eko718 wrote:Another quick observation on this. The fields like "upperarmTHICK" in the appearance dat file affect how the arm looks with accessories on. Probably the same for the leg edits but I haven't looked at that. They do not affect the actual body however. Durant's arm can look like Shaq with a full arm sleeve and normal once the accessories are removed.


So looks like 2K just used the same torso size for all players and then edited limb size. This is ok for me. I'm just taking notes of everything in this game the first few weeks.
Once I know how all of this stuff works then I can start using this info to my advantage to create better cyberfaces, rosters, etc.
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby DanREZx0 on Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:03 pm

TGsoGood wrote:They all have big heads


yeah. some are normal some are too big :D
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby eko718 on Mon Sep 25, 2017 2:29 pm

TGsoGood wrote:
eko718 wrote:Another quick observation on this. The fields like "upperarmTHICK" in the appearance dat file affect how the arm looks with accessories on. Probably the same for the leg edits but I haven't looked at that. They do not affect the actual body however. Durant's arm can look like Shaq with a full arm sleeve and normal once the accessories are removed.


So looks like 2K just used the same torso size for all players and then edited limb size. This is ok for me. I'm just taking notes of everything in this game the first few weeks.
Once I know how all of this stuff works then I can start using this info to my advantage to create better cyberfaces, rosters, etc.



To rephrase, it seems like the model itself does not change, only the area that the accessory covers. So if KD has a half arm sleeve and you give him Shaq sized arms in appearance_info, His upper arm would look thin while only the area covered by the accessory would be bigger. So it seems that models are still the only way to adjust actual limb thickness.
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Re: [Maumau78's] Tutorial: edit body lenght / torso / leg

Postby garypayton on Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:16 am

I tried to use notepad++

imported appearance file from lebron to another player and the game keeps on crashing
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Oh my God, thanks for this man! :bowdown:
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