【Nox】 The Greatest cousin ever！Vincent Carter and Tracy McGrady

[nox9980922]

Hi,I'm Nox.A Youtuber form Taiwan I just make a video for Vincent Carter and Tracy McGrady .
They are my FavoriteNBA players.
enjoy！

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Mod form Mr.Star and 鵬大

鵬大's article：
https://bbs.baballs.com/thread-219693-1-1.html
Mr.Star's article：
viewtopic.php?f=236&t=105281

[fghnvjkl]

Are you allowed to upload the t-mac cyberface here? I was trying sign up to the Chinese website to request for the "Tracy Mcgrady Remastered v3" but the e-mail verification message to validate my account is taking too long to arrive. Much appreciated the wonderful work "ldc1024" did with the cf though.

[datboimall]

I did as well but i don't know why its taking so long for a response on that website

[fghnvjkl]

I did as well but i don't know why its taking so long for a response on that website

I just received the validation email a few hours ago, you really just have to wait I guess. Here's hoping my request for the cyberface gets granted. Maybe I can post here or pm you if I finally receive it.

[Dee4Three]

I did as well but i don't know why its taking so long for a response on that website

I just received the validation email a few hours ago, you really just have to wait I guess. Here's hoping my request for the cyberface gets granted. Maybe I can post here or pm you if I finally receive it.

Is it really that hard to get a cyberface? Like, do you have to request the cyberface from the creator, or the site?

What kind of ridiculous system is that?

[bluejaybrandon]

I did as well but i don't know why its taking so long for a response on that website

I just received the validation email a few hours ago, you really just have to wait I guess. Here's hoping my request for the cyberface gets granted. Maybe I can post here or pm you if I finally receive it.

Is it really that hard to get a cyberface? Like, do you have to request the cyberface from the creator, or the site?

What kind of ridiculous system is that?

Been saying that for awhile, it’s the most pathetic, joke of a site. Bunch of self-absorbed crooks over there.

[fghnvjkl]

Finally got the Tracy Mcgrady cyberface. I don't know if it's allowed but I'm posting the link anyway.

Here: https://pan.baidu.com/s/1u5WUbgV6tVoe4k2Iay-b4w.
password: 4kdo

Of course, all credits go to 鵬大 or ldc1024 from http://www.baballs.com.

[cardo]

Not cool, my G! Not your work to post. We can patiently wait until he shares this work with us. Hell - I've been waiting for his Lavine for well over a month but that's just how it goes. But this right here is some BS.

[eirik]

Finally got the Tracy Mcgrady cyberface. I don't know if it's allowed but I'm posting the link anyway.

Here: https://pan.baidu.com/s/1u5WUbgV6tVoe4k2Iay-b4w.
password: 4kdo

Of course, all credits go to 鵬大 or ldc1024 from http://www.baballs.com.

Yeah you probably shouldn't share it publicly. Please respect the author's decisions of releasing it privately.

[bluejaybrandon]

Not cool, my G! Not your work to post. We can patiently wait until he shares this work with us. Hell - I've been waiting for his Lavine for well over a month but that's just how it goes. But this right here is some BS.

Couldn't disagree more. Private release of mods is what is BS. It is the antithesis of community and is the reason forum is light years ahead of backwards Chinese sites. I have never heard of an individual who gives glowing reviews of the Chinese Forums. They are shady places with all manners of elitism and crookedness. I respect all creators to a certain extent but when paying for mods and locking threads based on "level" become common place, it is no longer about the creations its about the creators and that is a dangerous precedent.

[cardo]

I guess we'll agree to disagree.

[endnotedeath]

you have to respect his work and delete the link , he is sharing his work with everyones for free back to nba 2k10 untill now and when you don't respect his choice he will just not share his release like a lot of great modders before....

also he is a member here so he will just report it and it will be deleted

[bluejaybrandon]

you have to respect his work and delete the link , he is sharing his work with everyones for free back to nba 2k10 untill now and when you don't respect his choice he will just not share his release like a lot of great modders before....

also he is a member here so he will just report it and it will be deleted

So then that is even worse. He's been sharing his work publicly but suddenly goes private. That is petty and self-centered, completely contrary to a community atmosphere. There have been other modders here that have gone the PM release route and thankfully have given it up. If that means he won;t share his work, then that is for the best because quite frankly it was never about the content in that case. People like that need to get rid of their egos.

[cardo]

Whoop, whoop - here comes the morality police again. People get pretty self-righteous here. Whether public or private - it's his work. Make all the skewed justifications you'd like. It won't make it right. Is it character indicting that he isn't releasing his work in the fashion you'd like? I think it's far more egregious that releasing his work here without permission is being condoned. I would have thought Admin would have locked the thread by now.

[endnotedeath]

you have to respect his work and delete the link , he is sharing his work with everyones for free back to nba 2k10 untill now and when you don't respect his choice he will just not share his release like a lot of great modders before....

also he is a member here so he will just report it and it will be deleted

So then that is even worse. He's been sharing his work publicly but suddenly goes private. That is petty and self-centered, completely contrary to a community atmosphere. There have been other modders here that have gone the PM release route and thankfully have given it up. If that means he won;t share his work, then that is for the best because quite frankly it was never about the content in that case. People like that need to get rid of their egos.

private yes , but he don't sell them and he respond to everyone's ,also he is sharing his work publicly just for the new one's you have to send him a link to get them before he post them on his topic... the problem with sharing your work publicly is you get over 10000 downloads and 10 posts on that 10 posts you get 9 asking for release if you post a preview or posting request so we need also a better community before to see how modders are acting ...

[bluejaybrandon]

Whoop, whoop - here comes the morality police again. People get pretty self-righteous here. Whether public or private - it's his work. Make all the skewed justifications you'd like. It won't make it right. Is it character indicting that he isn't releasing his work in the fashion you'd like? I think it's far more egregious that releasing his work here without permission is being condoned. I would have thought Admin would have locked the thread by now.

It has nothing to do with "self-righteous" it has to do with the community and celebrating modding. None of these are "skewed justifications", it's a matter of making it about the content and not the creator. The creators that lock their content behind PM requests are the self righteous individuals you should be going after. To make people have to request your work is pathetic. It also leads to a slippery slope of charging for mods, which has been shown on this site on numerous occasions.

You have literally made no argument as to why releases can be private beyond "its his work and his choice".

private yes , but he don't sell them and he respond to everyone's ,also he is sharing his work publicly just for the new one's you have to send him a link to get them before he post them on his topic... the problem with sharing your work publicly is you get over 10000 downloads and 10 posts on that 10 posts you get 9 asking for release if you post a preview or posting request so we need also a better community before to see how modders are acting ...

He doesn't sell them...yet. Without the transparency of public releases, its easy to transition to pay for mods. I have honestly never heard a compelling reason for it beyond "its the creator's choice".

I do agree with you that there are way more downloads than there are comments but quite frankly that's an unfortunate aspect of modding. The creators will never get the recognition they deserve. But they also shouldn't be fishing for it. To make people come to you and request your work is nothing but a power trip.

I will add, a very small percentage donate, but I can promise you that those that make it easiest to download make an astronomical amount more in donations than those that make it difficult. People appreciate the openness and ease of access and are more likely to compliment or reward it.

[Dee4Three]

you have to respect his work and delete the link , he is sharing his work with everyones for free back to nba 2k10 untill now and when you don't respect his choice he will just not share his release like a lot of great modders before....

also he is a member here so he will just report it and it will be deleted

So then that is even worse. He's been sharing his work publicly but suddenly goes private. That is petty and self-centered, completely contrary to a community atmosphere. There have been other modders here that have gone the PM release route and thankfully have given it up. If that means he won;t share his work, then that is for the best because quite frankly it was never about the content in that case. People like that need to get rid of their egos.

private yes , but he don't sell them and he respond to everyone's ,also he is sharing his work publicly just for the new one's you have to send him a link to get them before he post them on his topic... the problem with sharing your work publicly is you get over 10000 downloads and 10 posts on that 10 posts you get 9 asking for release if you post a preview or posting request so we need also a better community before to see how modders are acting ...

Your numbers are made up, and way off.

If you actually go through the threads by those who release work, it might be closer to 60-40% in favor of compliments, sometimes higher. Example, RockPrince thread. He has released a ton of work, and people truly appreciate him, it shows in the comments. He is making peoples experience better with the game, they appreciate that. Yes, people request faces as well, but as a patcher/modder that's what you expect. You are here contributing to a hungry community, people who love adding amazing work to the game. Any modder will tell you that they expect requests, and a lot of them. Especially for cyberfaces.

The other thing is: The point of joining this community is to make peoples experiences better, not for bragging rights or to feed an ego. Compliments are exactly that, feeding an ego. While everybody loves a good compliment (I know I do, it doesn't hurt), if someone is coming into the modding community for the purpose of puffing out there chest, getting compliments, or to make a profit, they are here for the wrong reasons. That is not what this community was built on, and that's not what It should be now.

People who sell mods, or only release via PM, or withhold releases, are doing the things that hurt the community, not those who request a cyberface, or fail to compliment at every whim. I personally think that those who practice the things I mentioned need to get over themselves, and see the bigger picture. So I strongly disagree with you defending those practices.

[cardo]

There is no argument to be made besides the fact that it's his work. This sounds immature. Nobody has to mod for the reasons you've stated. Maybe for him - it's not about lending to the "community" or some quasi-ideal of purity. Maybe it's a much more selfish endeavor that he's kind enough to occasionally share. Or maybe he sells his work. Either way, it's his to with as he sees fit. If anyone sells their work- more power to them. Time is commodity. If he, or anyone wants reciprocity for their hard work and many hours spent - I understand. This "for the love" notion makes me laugh. Trust that 2k doesn't do it "for the love". Bottom line is that posting his work here is wack. Defending it is wack. Maybe there's other points you make that have merit but you completely lose me with defending the posting of someone else work sans permission.

[Dee4Three]

There is no argument to be made besides the fact that it's his work. This sounds immature. Nobody has to mod for the reasons you've stated. Maybe for him - it's not about lending to the "community" or some quasi-ideal of purity. Maybe it's a much more selfish endeavor that he's kind enough to occasionally share. Or maybe he sells his work. Either way, it's his to with as he sees fit. If anyone sells their work- more power to them. Time is commodity. If he, or anyone wants reciprocity for their hard work and many hours spent - I understand. This "for the love" notion makes me laugh. Trust that 2k doesn't do it "for the love". Bottom line is that posting his work here is wack. Defending it is wack. Maybe there's other points you make that have merit but you completely lose me with defending the posting of someone else work sans permission.

Actually, him profiting off of 2Ks work is illegal... it's actually an illegal act. The original work is 2K's intellectual property, he can't legally profit off of it. His choice, yes... but acting like it's all fine and dandy is not accurate at all.

In regards to him doing what he wants with his work otherwise, of course he can, but that doesn't mean that he won't piss quite a few individuals off in the process. The comments made by BlueJay and myself, and others who perceive that behavior as negative are not inaccurate at all, they are the truth. If you want to be a positive member in a community, if you want to get said "Compliments", you need to embrace the idea of community first. The community portion of it needs to be understood, the modder needs to adhere to a common community standard if he wants to be well respected in the community, otherwise he will piss quite a few people off.

This isn't the Chinese forums, or any other forum, its the NLSC. We don't operate the same way here, its not appreciated when modders do the things I stated above. Acting like this forum is like any other forum (Forums where individuals routinely charge for work, or withhold works), is silly at best. It's a completely different type of community here, and in order to keep it a positive one, that stuff needs to seldom happen or not happen at all. Of course, modders who do these things will always exist, but we want to keep it to a minimum.

[bluejaybrandon]

There is no argument to be made besides the fact that it's his work. This sounds immature. Nobody has to mod for the reasons you've stated. Maybe for him - it's not about lending to the "community" or some quasi-ideal of purity. Maybe it's a much more selfish endeavor that he's kind enough to occasionally share. Or maybe he sells his work. Either way, it's his to with as he sees fit. If anyone sells their work- more power to them. Time is commodity. If he, or anyone wants reciprocity for their hard work and many hours spent - I understand. This "for the love" notion makes me laugh. Trust that 2k doesn't do it "for the love". Bottom line is that posting his work here is wack. Defending it is wack. Maybe there's other points you make that have merit but you completely lose me with defending the posting of someone else work sans permission.

If this is the case, that a modders reasoning for sharing work is for praise or money, not only is he spirit of the community but he's violating the rules. I don't know if you're new here or are just here for the content, but go ahead and read over the community guidelines. Take the time to make yourself familiar with the place you're posting. This place is really supposed to be a community and foster a spirit of appreciation for the content. Everything you're saying is in violation of the guidelines and quite out of place here. I don't know where you got your views on modding but there are countless creators on these forums making massive projects because they like the NBA, they like 2k, or the like creating in general. 2k as a whole may be a for profit company, but the members that make up the company work there because they enjoy it. Regardless, to compare a salaried employee to a modder is laughable at best.

I'm not defending it being posted. But I do rationalize the reasoning for it being posted. If you make people jump through hoops for content, best believe people are going to go with less annoying routes of getting the content. You shouldn't share something if someone is completely opposed to it being shared. I ran into this last year and we scrapped a potential project because of it. But if someone is silent on the issue and it helps a large amount of people to experience the content then I'm all for it. In fact, there is nothing to say that I can't download it, edit it to my liking and upload it here. It is content to be enjoyed by the community. Perhaps its different in other forums you frequent, but I suspect that egocentric outlook of creator is in the minority around here. Ego trips have no place in this community.

[ldc1024]

I'm also a member of this site so I can see your discussion.
I'm disappointed with some of you,but In face I don't really care about that.
Thanks to those who spoke for me.
I've been mod for over 10 years,I didn't sell any mod,in the Past,now or future.The act of selling the mod made me unhappy and I despise this kind of behavior.
I'm not short of money, actually.
Another thing，Why am I PM mod Instead release mod immediate.
The reason is simple.
I have a website called BABALLS.com -https://bbs.baballs.com
Around 2014s, this is an important nbamod distribution station in China,But in some reasons the Baballs.com stopped in 2016s.
Now, as one of the founders of that site, I wanna run it again. actually I did it.
But now that there are few people who know the site, there is little post on it and almost nobody answered.
So I'm going to lead people to warm up or give some active reply on the website, I declare my mod to be published as PM.
In fact, everyone who replied to me was PM, and the final effect was no different from the previous release.Actually I am also very tired to do that.
I will continue to do so Until the 2K19 release.I hope that the people on the website will not be download it and go,but be able to participate in the discussion, and my mod will be released in the old way.
that all
If you can understand me, THANK YOU.
If not, wish you have a nice day too

[thelegend23]

I'm also a member of this site so I can see your discussion.
I'm disappointed with some of you,but In face I don't really care about that.
Thanks to those who spoke for me.
I've been mod for over 10 years,I didn't sell any mod,in the Past,now or future.The act of selling the mod made me unhappy and I despise this kind of behavior.
I'm not short of money, actually.
Another thing，Why am I PM mod Instead release mod immediate.
The reason is simple.
I have a website called BABALLS.com -https://bbs.baballs.com
Around 2014s, this is an important nbamod distribution station in China,But in some reasons the Baballs.com stopped in 2016s.
Now, as one of the founders of that site, I wanna run it again. actually I did it.
But now that there are few people who know the site, there is little post on it and almost nobody answered.
So I'm going to lead people to warm up or give some active reply on the website, I declare my mod to be published as PM.
In fact, everyone who replied to me was PM, and the final effect was no different from the previous release.Actually I am also very tired to do that.
I will continue to do so Until the 2K19 release.I hope that the people on the website will not be download it and go,but be able to participate in the discussion, and my mod will be released in the old way.
that all
If you can understand me, THANK YOU.
If not, wish you have a nice day too

I actually want to join the discussion in your forum, but i'm having a problem logging in i don't know why. I'ts very difficult when you are relying on google chrome translate. Anyways good luck to you and your site i fully understand your situation. Thanks

[w.w.w2046]

I'm also a member of this site so I can see your discussion.
I'm disappointed with some of you,but In face I don't really care about that.
Thanks to those who spoke for me.
I've been mod for over 10 years,I didn't sell any mod,in the Past,now or future.The act of selling the mod made me unhappy and I despise this kind of behavior.
I'm not short of money, actually.
Another thing，Why am I PM mod Instead release mod immediate.
The reason is simple.
I have a website called BABALLS.com -https://bbs.baballs.com
Around 2014s, this is an important nbamod distribution station in China,But in some reasons the Baballs.com stopped in 2016s.
Now, as one of the founders of that site, I wanna run it again. actually I did it.
But now that there are few people who know the site, there is little post on it and almost nobody answered.
So I'm going to lead people to warm up or give some active reply on the website, I declare my mod to be published as PM.
In fact, everyone who replied to me was PM, and the final effect was no different from the previous release.Actually I am also very tired to do that.
I will continue to do so Until the 2K19 release.I hope that the people on the website will not be download it and go,but be able to participate in the discussion, and my mod will be released in the old way.
that all
If you can understand me, THANK YOU.
If not, wish you have a nice day too

[maumau78]

I've try to contact you ldc1024 for your amazing T-Mac but no answer...can you help me or can someone help me?