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Re: Edited/Created Arenas w/Blender. Small Gym WIP

Postby hokupguy on Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:51 pm

i was hoping someone can point me the right direction, i am in serious need of a good or decent video tutorial for blender with 2k16-18 arena files. it has been a few yrs for me alomst 4-5 yrs since i touched blender. Started again the last few days but i m really rusty and alot has changed with blender since the 2k12 days.

I have been able so far to add parts to arenas and even recenter them and set them as new iff.files, Below see pics showing what i have done so far

1. 97-98 forum trying to give correct jumbotron and edit base jumbotron for ads or banners, forgot how to edit in blender for that.
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2. the mycareer practice gym was able to center court add a jumbotron, scores table and hanging baskets want to it more to moves lights and walls. Please keep in mind i am very rusty and REALLY missing Jaosming right know :oops:

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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby TGsoGood on Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:29 pm

This is probably the most tinkering anyone has done with the stadium/ arena files in a while.
I just started tinkering with them a few days ago.

I was working on converting arenas from previous 2K16 and 2K17 but it was a lot of work after reading through all the coding. I've temporarily postponed conversion efforts.

2k17 and 2k16 arenas both have slightly different architecture to their arena.scne files than 2K18.
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby hokupguy on Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:10 pm

TGsoGood wrote:This is probably the most tinkering anyone has done with the stadium/ arena files in a while.
I just started tinkering with them a few days ago.

I was working on converting arenas from previous 2K16 and 2K17 but it was a lot of work after reading through all the coding. I've temporarily postponed conversion efforts.

2k17 and 2k16 arenas both have slightly different architecture to their arena.scne files than 2K18.


yeah, i have been trying to re-teach myself how to use a blender since everything I knew is gone. I have made some progress. If it helps I noticed that last yr proam .iff work it is slightly different compared to this yrs and I think that screate/arenas also work from 2k17. So not sure if there is any rhyme or reason but should be a section code that differs to make it work. i noticed that the crowd.data from 2k17 HS gym , 2 college gyms work.

i will keep posting what i do or what i find just trying to make something out of the mycareer practice gym , maybe make look like a high school gym or small college for people to use.
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby Murat on Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:35 pm

TGsoGood wrote:This is probably the most tinkering anyone has done with the stadium/ arena files in a while.
I just started tinkering with them a few days ago.

I was working on converting arenas from previous 2K16 and 2K17 but it was a lot of work after reading through all the coding. I've temporarily postponed conversion efforts.

2k17 and 2k16 arenas both have slightly different architecture to their arena.scne files than 2K18.


in a while? most tinkering for next gen...

hokupguy I always liked what you did with stadiums of basketball video games... your hardwork inspired me to create stadiums for NBA Live 2004.

I hope you inspire some guys there like me too, as I don't own NBA 2K18
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby hokupguy on Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:41 am

Murat wrote:
TGsoGood wrote:This is probably the most tinkering anyone has done with the stadium/ arena files in a while.
I just started tinkering with them a few days ago.

I was working on converting arenas from previous 2K16 and 2K17 but it was a lot of work after reading through all the coding. I've temporarily postponed conversion efforts.

2k17 and 2k16 arenas both have slightly different architecture to their arena.scne files than 2K18.


in a while? most tinkering for next gen...

hokupguy I always liked what you did with stadiums of basketball video games... your hardwork inspired me to create stadiums for NBA Live 2004.

I hope you inspire some guys there like me too, as I don't own NBA 2K18

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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby aguifs on Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:11 am

Is it possible too add the upper level led displays for the United Center? They're still missing
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby hokupguy on Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:29 am

Maybe, probably not. Have not found any thing to use as a extra led ring in the game.
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby hokupguy on Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:32 pm

ok as i stated yesterday last pro am arena works in 2k18.

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you can see the difference it them with no brick on the lower part of the court ends. The pro am arenas don't come with any backboard, scores table/ bench or jumbotron. I made one that does and can be used in any mode, see pic play in a quick game. The end walls are not blackout like in other modes like my league. BTW this is a stand alone iff.file now.

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still trying to see how or if i can do anything with the to panels on each end.
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby TGsoGood on Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:59 pm

this is the 1st successful conversion of a 2K17 arena .
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby hokupguy on Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:02 pm

TGsoGood wrote:this is the 1st successful conversion of a 2K17 arena .

no it worked straight out of 2k17 i didnt touch it , just added stuff to it. I got it from your extra gyms from 2k17 that you uploaded. The others from your upload (the hs gym and 2 others) didnt work for me.

i removed the screens and underneath is this, anybody how to get rid of this?
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby TGsoGood on Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:08 pm

I believe you will have to edit the arena lightmap.
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby hokupguy on Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:26 am

TGsoGood wrote:I believe you will have to edit the arena lightmap.

that what I thought too, but no corresponding files that match it. But there is a .model.file that I think can be it. Do you know how to open that file?
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby TGsoGood on Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:39 pm

All.model files have to be used together with the.scne file. Import the.scne file into blender and it loads up the corresponding.model file.

That will not help with shadows though.

How did you remove the screen?
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby RobDavis on Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:19 pm

hokupguy wrote:
TGsoGood wrote:this is the 1st successful conversion of a 2K17 arena .

no it worked straight out of 2k17 i didnt touch it , just added stuff to it. I got it from your extra gyms from 2k17 that you uploaded. The others from your upload (the hs gym and 2 others) didnt work for me.

i removed the screens and underneath is this, anybody how to get rid of this?
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I was having trouble trying to remove those shaders underneath objects as well. I want to say its some type of lighting or shader file but I havent been able to find which it is.
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby hokupguy on Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:02 am

TGsoGood wrote:All.model files have to be used together with the.scne file. Import the.scne file into blender and it loads up the corresponding.model file.

That will not help with shadows though.

How did you remove the screen?

i just selected the screens alone in "object mode" and move them out of the arena with the 3D cursor.
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby hokupguy on Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:04 am

RobDavis wrote:
hokupguy wrote:
TGsoGood wrote:this is the 1st successful conversion of a 2K17 arena .

no it worked straight out of 2k17 i didnt touch it , just added stuff to it. I got it from your extra gyms from 2k17 that you uploaded. The others from your upload (the hs gym and 2 others) didnt work for me.

i removed the screens and underneath is this, anybody how to get rid of this?
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I was having trouble trying to remove those shaders underneath objects as well. I want to say its some type of lighting or shader file but I havent been able to find which it is.


i have found other light maps in the file but none seem to match up with the one i am looking for.
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby hokupguy on Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:42 am

ok i moved on to another iff to test with, i was able to scale the mycareer highrise court, could be used as possible small gym. I am really just messing around to see what possible. May do something with this or at least give people an idea for something.

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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby TGsoGood on Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:47 am

Are you using the create an arena feature to make the baskets line up correctly?
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby hokupguy on Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:45 am

TGsoGood wrote:Are you using the create an arena feature to make the baskets line up correctly?

no, im centering the arena file in blender, thats how i got the mycareer practice court centered. Also how are you opening some of the dds.files , there a some a cant open ? i tried a few things but none not working.

How do you do it ?
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby TGsoGood on Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:19 pm

In the past we could open dds files with nvidias dds plug in tools because they used dxt5, dxt1,etc.
Many of this years dds files use BC7 compression. You can only properly view those dds files using intel's dds plugins.
Also you must use Photoshop CS6 or Photoshop CC to use intel's dds plugin tool.

I used photoshop cs5 for many years to mod 2K games, this was the first year I had to switch to CS6 so that I could view all the DDS files properly.
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby hokupguy on Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:43 pm

TGsoGood wrote:In the past we could open dds files with nvidias dds plug in tools because they used dxt5, dxt1,etc.
Many of this years dds files use BC7 compression. You can only properly view those dds files using intel's dds plugins.
Also you must use Photoshop CS6 or Photoshop CC to use intel's dds plugin tool.

I used photoshop cs5 for many years to mod 2K games, this was the first year I had to switch to CS6 so that I could view all the DDS files properly.


do you know a better tut then this viewtopic.php?f=237&t=104776 ? the files wont open for me .
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby TGsoGood on Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:51 pm

That is the only tutorial around as far as I know.
What dds file are you trying to open, maybe I can give it a try.

I usually just open them in photoshop CS6 with no issue.
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby hokupguy on Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:07 pm

TGsoGood wrote:That is the only tutorial around as far as I know.
What dds file are you trying to open, maybe I can give it a try.

I usually just open them in photoshop CS6 with no issue.


i did all the steps of setting up the plugins/scripts, and using Photoshop CC. if use open or open as its open as a new create file. not sure if i am doing something wrong. Because i get the option of the intel dds plugin but nothing happens.

Trying to open alot of the harder dds files in the 591.iff trying to find the section numbers of the arena.
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby ksmiz on Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:59 pm

hokupguy wrote:Trying to open alot of the harder dds files in the 591.iff trying to find the section numbers of the arena.


The harder ones?

Give a specific example and we can help.

If you look and the size of the file is 0 KB then it's not really there. It will be located in the shared folder in archive 0C

Do you mean s591.iff?

There's 216dds files in there and 157 of them are only going to be able to be viewed if you grab them from the shared folder.
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby hokupguy on Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:56 pm

thank you for the response and explaining the 0 size and shared file . i found the file that i need in the shared file.

thanks agian for offering to help.
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby ksmiz on Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:09 am

No problem. Glad I could help. That 0 size file thing frustrated me a lot when I first started trying to mod this game only like a year ago. If you take it from shared and then make changes to it you should be able to place it back in the s591(or w/e) and it should work and use your file instead of the generic one in shared

I'd like to learn more about how you do the stadiums in blender too
I still haven't gotten any blender stuff to save so that's not a strong area for me.
I've watched a bunch of Jaosming's youtube tutorials from ~4-5years ago but I'm not sure how they apply to new stadiums.

Anyway it is nice to see someone who been on this forum since 03 still modding and sharing ideas
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Re: Edited / Created Arenas w/ Blender. Also need some help.

Postby hokupguy on Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:38 am

ksmiz wrote:No problem. Glad I could help. That 0 size file thing frustrated me a lot when I first started trying to mod this game only like a year ago. If you take it from shared and then make changes to it you should be able to place it back in the s591(or w/e) and it should work and use your file instead of the generic one in shared

I'd like to learn more about how you do the stadiums in blender too
I still haven't gotten any blender stuff to save so that's not a strong area for me.
I've watched a bunch of Jaosming's youtube tutorials from ~4-5years ago but I'm not sure how they apply to new stadiums.

Anyway it is nice to see someone who been on this forum since 03 still modding and sharing ideas


Thanks for the info, sadly it has changed a lot so everything I knew from 2k12-14 days really no longer works, but I am reteaching my self this version of blender. If I can repay the favor with blender info let me know.
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Re: Edited/Created Arenas w/Blender. 98' Great Western Forum WIP

Postby hokupguy on Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:27 pm

Here is a WIP of the lakers Great Western Forum, Got the jumbotron done almost need to your on the screen. I tried to add a LED from another team and rename it not working . Do i need to edit that in the roster with the Cheat Table ? I want to add misssing championship banners and retired unis and flags . But not sure if it is worth it due to the darkness of the arena. Will only be seen when spot light hit them. Should i keep going ?


open question to any one that has worked with blender faces / shoes what ever . Has any body used the paint vertex tool to brighten or darken a group of the vertex ?

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Re: Edited/Created Arenas w/Blender. 98' Great Western Forum WIP

Postby TGsoGood on Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:54 am

To my knowledge you are venturing into uncharted territory.

If there are any users that have used vertex paint, they don't post thier findings publicly here.

I know there are some users who are very knowledgeable but they just browse the forums mostly.
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Re: Edited/Created Arenas w/Blender. 98' Great Western Forum WIP

Postby hokupguy on Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:12 am

TGsoGood wrote:To my knowledge you are venturing into uncharted territory.

If there are any users that have used vertex paint, they don't post their findings publicly here.

I know there are some users who are very knowledgeable but they just browse the forums mostly.


if you know who they are please share this thread with them. Being able to paint vertex and load into game will help in the darkness or brightness of arenas or any part of a file. This is something I used a lot of the last gen of NBA Live games on PC. Or the arenas are still being affected by the shader files.

This what i did back in the day that i am trying to recreate of this gen. viewtopic.php?f=63&t=68696&start=50
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Re: Edited/Created Arenas w/Blender. 98' Great Western Forum WIP

Postby MYMRangersss on Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:53 pm

I bro im MYMRanger i make 3D MODELS OF STADIUM OF 2K14 :) here my work :

https://www.flickr.com/photos/135724175@N05/

you cant telme what program use for extrac the 3D models ? in nba 2k14 have name .2km
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Re: Edited/Created Arenas w/Blender. 98' Great Western Forum WIP

Postby hokupguy on Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:02 am

things are not as easy as 2k14 , but this is what you need to get newest verison of blender and follow this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkBP6WFvlIg

then get 7-zip of the arena iff file and then look for arena.scne file that the one you want to edit in blender. here a video its not for arenas but same concept
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Re: Edited/Created Arenas w/Blender. 98' Great Western Forum WIP

Postby The Human Highlight Film on Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:45 am

hokupguy have you tried making new edits for 2K classic arenas?

The Omni, Seattle Centre Coliseum, Miami Arena, Richfield Coliseum and Veterans Memorial coliseum would be awesome for 2k14!
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Re: Edited/Created Arenas w/Blender. 98' Great Western Forum WIP

Postby hokupguy on Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:58 pm

The Human Highlight Film wrote:hokupguy have you tried making new edits for 2K classic arenas?

The Omni, Seattle Centre Coliseum, Miami Arena, Richfield Coliseum and Veterans Memorial coliseum would be awesome for 2k14!

no sorry , have not touched 2k14 in a few yrs, funny u ask me abt these arenas. Just got asked about these as well from some on else. you should reach out to the creator of this video he seems to have some that you need, good luck.
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Re: Edited/Created Arenas w/Blender. 98' Great Western Forum WIP

Postby hokupguy on Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:01 pm

ok sorry for going M.I.A. on this thread got busy with life and roster project i have been working on. But not sure what else to do i have decent looking small arena done not sure what else to do to it. Here is a WIP video i just posted any thoughts on what i can add.

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Re: Edited/Created Arenas w/Blender. 98' Great Western Forum WIP

Postby hokupguy on Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:03 pm

ok sorry for going M.I.A. on this thread got busy with life and roster project i have been working on. But not sure what else to do i have decent looking small arena done not sure what else to do to it. Here is a WIP video i just posted any thoughts on what i can add.


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Re: Edited/Created Arenas w/Blender. Small Gym WIP

Postby ksmiz on Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:42 am

any idea of why that basket doesn't have the square on it? The glass is just plain. Also when I pulled this basket into a stadium before I tried to change the rim color but for some reason it also changed the backboard padding

Did you find any more of the things you were looking for inside the forum stadium?

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Re: Edited/Created Arenas w/Blender. Small Gym WIP

Postby hokupguy on Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:04 am

ksmiz wrote:any idea of why that basket doesn't have the square on it? The glass is just plain. Also when I pulled this basket into a stadium before I tried to change the rim color but for some reason it also changed the backboard padding

Did you find any more of the things you were looking for inside the forum stadium?

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very nice btw, i like how you add more seats at the end.

No i did not find what i was looking for . The lack of a box i think is do to the file not have it in it. I am not sure but if you play a quick pick up pro am game i believe there is not box either.
And the rim and padding i think are the same texture but i my be wrong.
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