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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby Shuajota on Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:51 am

TGsoGood wrote:What is the name of this draft online?

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Draft name: DNA Draft 2018
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby bluejaybrandon on Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:20 pm

So let me get this straight...this is version 1.1? With three cyberfaces and an undisclosed number of portraits. So the project is like 2% completed but you pushed it live? 3 cyberfaces and a few portraits is barely an "alpha", let alone a release 1.1...another unfinished work only to be sent out to the ether to die. Can't wait for the lemmings to come in and support it. Why would people fall for this? It's a minuscule notch above a generic draft class. Quit releasing half finished projects man, you'd get way more hype and downloads for one thing actually 100% done then for 10 things 10% done.
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby TGsoGood on Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:40 pm

Bluejaybrandon,
Let him release whatever he wants to release. The modding section is for both previews and releases no matter how big or small. There is room for multiple draft class makers. He has been releasing work ongoing for over a year now and has stated that this is an ongoing project.

Also 2K's upload system allows you to update your uploaded drafts and rosters. There is no reason that anyone should be required to wait until they are 100% complete to release their work. It is a free work that the community can enjoy (or not). 2K didn't even release this game at 100% completion.

Can't wait for the lemmings to come in and support it. Why would people fall for this? It's a minuscule notch above a generic draft class


No need for these types of insults to fellow community members and creators. I hope that in the future there is better interaction between the great creators of this community.
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby bluejaybrandon on Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:52 pm

TGsoGood wrote:Bluejaybrandon,
Let him release whatever he wants to release. The modding section is for both previews and releases no matter how big or small. There is room for multiple draft class makers. He has been releasing work ongoing for over a year now and has stated that this is an ongoing project.
Please stop with the negativity.


This is a place for open criticism. If there is a release on here, people are constantly giving feedback. This is my feedback, you're more than welcome to ignore it and continue to milk his content for views on Youtube. To you, this is a paycheck. That being said, I'm a fan of some of his work. There was a sweeping hole with 2-way players and I was excited to see him step in but instead he decides to move on to another massive project. I understand that there is "room" for another draft class but the redundancy of this place is mind-boggling, why stop work 5% through on other unique things to make this? So based on past history, an on-going release is just another name for something eventually left abandoned. Again, I'm not saying he should wait till 100% completion, I'm saying this "release" is not a release. It's 3 faces and each "release" is more and more ad money. This "project" is going to be 500 individual releases with ads on each one and quite frankly I think its pathetic.
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby TGsoGood on Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:10 pm

Bluejaybrandon My Youtube was started as utility to provide help to the community. I have 149 videos and only 3 of them have any content concerning DNA rosters. Only 2 out of 3 of those videos are monetized. I have earned a whopping $1.83 total on content regarding DNA roster, I would not say that I am milking anything. Also much of my youtube content is mods created by me or tutorials.

I would love to continue this discussion in a more constructive format in a new thread, so that I don't take away from the work that is being displayed here.
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby bluejaybrandon on Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:15 pm

TGsoGood wrote:Bluejaybrandon My Youtube was started as utility to provide help to the community. I have 149 videos and only 3 of them have any content concerning DNA rosters. Only 2 out of 3 of those videos are monetized. I have earned a whopping $1.83 total on content regarding DNA roster, I would not say that I am milking anything. Also much of my youtube content is mods created by me or tutorials.

I would love to continue this discussion in a more constructive format in a new thread, so that I don't take away from the work that is being displayed here.


Perfect, then let's have a constructive discussion right here, completely on topic. What makes you excited for this project? What aspect do you currently enjoy? What aspects would help you to enjoy this project more?
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby TGsoGood on Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:34 pm

I enjoy checking out the work of fellow community members, that is the main thing that draws to me to any draft or roster.

In the recent weeks I have shared enthusiasm for this draft, Jaosming's NLSC draft for 2K18, a few useful draft classes from 2K16(that I uploaded to the download facilities here), and even some operation sports draft classes for consoles (which I do not even own)

For this draft specifically, I am excited to see Shuajota's take on the upcoming draft class. The main reason is because I have recently downloaded his DNA roster. Last year I did not download any of his rosters, despite being supportive of his work. I am somewhat invested in this roster since I have now downloaded about 4GB of art and files that were made to go with this roster series.

This roster has G-League teams and I will be testing out his version of the prospects on these G-League teams in play now and playoffs mode. I just downloaded this v1.1 draft a few hours ago but have not yet tested it as I am currently playing inside of MyLeague where I drafted community members from Jaosming's NLSC Community draft classes.

I also think I would like to use the Doncic and Porter cyberfaces. I do not know if anyone else has released these cyberfaces so this adds to my enthusiasm. As of right now I can not say what would help me enjoy this more as I have not yet moved the players from draft class to the G-League teams.
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby bluejaybrandon on Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:44 pm

TGsoGood wrote:I enjoy checking out the work of fellow community members, that is the main thing that draws to me to any draft or roster.

In the recent weeks I have shared enthusiasm for this draft, Jaosming's NLSC draft for 2K18, a few useful draft classes from 2K16(that I uploaded to the download facilities here), and even some operation sports draft classes for consoles (which I do not even own)

For this draft specifically, I am excited to see Shuajota's take on the upcoming draft class. The main reason is because I have recently downloaded his DNA roster. Last year I did not download any of his rosters, despite being supportive of his work. I am somewhat invested in this roster since I have now downloaded about 4GB of art and files that were made to go with this roster series.

This roster has G-League teams and I will be testing out his version of the prospects on these G-League teams in play now and playoffs mode. I just downloaded this v1.1 draft a few hours ago but have not yet tested it as I am currently playing inside of MyLeague where I drafted community members from Jaosming's NLSC Community draft classes.

I also think I would like to use the Doncic and Porter cyberfaces. I do not know if anyone else has released these cyberfaces so this adds to my enthusiasm. As of right now I can not say what would help me enjoy this more as I have not yet moved the players from draft class to the G-League teams.


Aw excellent! So you have downloaded his roster files...and they're a whopping 4 GBs? That's odd, it really didn't seem like there was THAT much content he has produced. Do you remember if there were ads on the download link? Do you also know if the mod contained the works of others? Surely, that couldn't be the case...that the tattoo updates, faces, and portraits of others were being used, or even monetized without consent. Now I won't claim to know for sure but I have heard users saying their content is used in the "mod pack". That just seems like quite a large download for the amount of content that has been produced by the user Shaujota, alone. So if we're going to be all sunshine and rainbows about the community, don't you find it a little odd you're both participating in, and promoting in the blatant disregard this community you're so fond of? Certainly seems hypocritical to me.
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby TGsoGood on Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:02 pm

bluejaybrandon wrote:Now I won't claim to know for sure but I have heard users saying their content is used in the "mod pack". That just seems like quite a large download for the amount of content that has been produced by the user Shaujota, alone.


From my undertstanding there is a team (which I am no part of) working on the DNA roster project as a whole. I am only going off of the info that has been presented in Shuajota's post. Are you saying that some of the work for this draft class is stolen? I am under the impression that Shuajota has created these cyberfaces and portraits which is why there are only a few. If you do not know for sure then you should encourage the users that are reporting stolen work to speak with administrators.

So if we're going to be all sunshine and rainbows about the community, don't you find it a little odd you're both participating in, and promoting in the blatant disregard this community you're so fond of? Certainly seems hypocritical to me.


I am not promoting the disregard of this community. I did not create any of the content in this roster or draft, I simply provided a link to another user's draft class formula's, whom I give full credit to in both the forum thread and video I made discussing the formulas.
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby bluejaybrandon on Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:12 pm

TGsoGood wrote:
bluejaybrandon wrote:Now I won't claim to know for sure but I have heard users saying their content is used in the "mod pack". That just seems like quite a large download for the amount of content that has been produced by the user Shaujota, alone.


From my undertstanding there is a team (which I am no part of) working on the DNA roster project as a whole. I am only going off of the info that has been presented in Shuajota's post. Are you saying that some of the work for this draft class is stolen? I am under the impression that Shuajota has created these cyberfaces and portraits which is why there are only a few. If you do not know for sure then you should encourage the users that are reporting stolen work to speak with administrators.

So if we're going to be all sunshine and rainbows about the community, don't you find it a little odd you're both participating in, and promoting in the blatant disregard this community you're so fond of? Certainly seems hypocritical to me.


I am not promoting the disregard of this community. I did not create any of the content in this roster or draft, I simply provided a link to another user's draft class formula's, whom I give full credit to in both the forum thread and video I made discussing the formulas.


You make videos about this roster ---> people go to download ---> ad money for downloading ---> content received is stolen from other members. It's not that hard to make the connections. If you support this user, you do not support the community. He has shown constant disregard for this community you claim to support. He has made fake accounts to bolster his own content, and this would be at least the second time I'm aware of him taking other's content and possibly monetizing it without their consent. But who am I kidding, nobody here cares about the community. This has become a place to collect revenue from ads and try to build a YouTube following.

The draft class is just an embodiment of the problem. The roster itself (which is a necessary addition apparently...hooray more ad revenue) is the biggest issue. The draft class being released in minuscule "updates", each with ads strewn all about is the problem I see.

It's very clear I operate differently than what the NBA 2k18 community has become. There's nothing wrong with that, I'm in the minority so I'll just excuse myself.
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby TGsoGood on Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:35 pm

Bluejaybrandon, I have moved the conversation to below thread in the general 2k18 section.
I am serious about continuing this conversation constructively. Please join me and lets continue the conversation.

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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby jk31 on Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:37 pm

Can you give us the CF IDs for the 2 new cyberfaces you released? I don't want to use your DNA Roster, I just want to use the cyberfaces and portraits you created. Can you give us the necessary files in an single file to download?
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby Shuajota on Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:43 pm

jk31 wrote:Can you give us the CF IDs for the 2 new cyberfaces you released? I don't want to use your DNA Roster, I just want to use the cyberfaces and portraits you created. Can you give us the necessary files in an single file to download?

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Postby jk31 on Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:44 pm

That's great to hear! (Y)
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Postby Shuajota on Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:04 pm

bluejaybrandon wrote:So let me get this straight...this is version 1.1? With three cyberfaces and an undisclosed number of portraits. So the project is like 2% completed but you pushed it live? 3 cyberfaces and a few portraits is barely an "alpha", let alone a release 1.1...another unfinished work only to be sent out to the ether to die. Can't wait for the lemmings to come in and support it. Why would people fall for this? It's a minuscule notch above a generic draft class. Quit releasing half finished projects man, you'd get way more hype and downloads for one thing actually 100% done then for 10 things 10% done.

All the players are created with their names, universities, tendencies, signatures and attributes. I doubt that is 2%... and for the cyberfaces you have 2 guys working for your project. Here I’m alone so I need time. But I waited to have all players created before to release this draft.
I am not going to create unnecessary discussions, but seeing that I am being mentioned and talking about stolen works, I think it is convenient to pronounce myself.
I also have followers of my own web that asked me for a 2018 draft, even if I did not have faces. Therefore I do not see the problem of release my own version when all the players are created, although not all of them have cyberfaces.
And since I want to create an NCAA roster with AmaroWaade I need to create my own faces so I do not "steal" your work.
This is not a competitiom, simply here each modder performs his own work from his own point of view. and I still remember when I started talking about that I was going to create DNA Roster for 2K18 and bluejaybrandon gave me congratulations and recommended my roster.
I have also helped many users in the community and I have always respected all of them. As for paid links, many users here use them. And I've only included advertising links when in the rar there are files created by me. Because it is a support to my work. I do not live from it.
I spend a lot of hours creating jerseys, arenas, courts, cyberfaces, dornas, portraits, players, etc. And if I used textures or iffs from other modders, they know it bcs I have asked. Even they are being helping me with some mods like magnuz, 2ktons, Modified2k and more guys.
Now I just need to read that ACB is also a stolen job after 3-4 months of work...
jk31 I will post the links for the cfs so you will be able to use them in your rosters too.
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Postby Kaunietis22 on Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:33 pm

bluejaybrandon wrote:So let me get this straight...this is version 1.1? With three cyberfaces and an undisclosed number of portraits. So the project is like 2% completed but you pushed it live? 3 cyberfaces and a few portraits is barely an "alpha", let alone a release 1.1...another unfinished work only to be sent out to the ether to die. Can't wait for the lemmings to come in and support it. Why would people fall for this? It's a minuscule notch above a generic draft class. Quit releasing half finished projects man, you'd get way more hype and downloads for one thing actually 100% done then for 10 things 10% done.

Bro at the end of the day its a f****** video game, and as i see it you concern with your own work... Talking about this being a place of open criticism but moving your work to a blog where you can control everything... Sometimes if you don't have anything nice to say better to be quiet because no one is going to make crazy money doing this and are doing it for self interest and it would be shame if we lost modders because of what someone said...
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Postby ilja23mia on Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:41 pm

what if i start a new season with this rookie class ? can i update the rookie class after some time ? ?
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Postby Shuajota on Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:48 pm

ilja23mia wrote:what if i start a new season with this rookie class ? can i update the rookie class after some time ? ?

Yes, in Myleague you can download a new draft class update from 2kservers during a started season.
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Postby ilja23mia on Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:49 pm

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ilja23mia wrote:what if i start a new season with this rookie class ? can i update the rookie class after some time ? ?

Yes, in Myleague you can download a new draft class update from 2kservers during a started season.



ok so its not possible on start today mod ?
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Postby Kaunietis22 on Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:59 pm

ilja23mia wrote:
Shuajota wrote:
ilja23mia wrote:what if i start a new season with this rookie class ? can i update the rookie class after some time ? ?

Yes, in Myleague you can download a new draft class update from 2kservers during a started season.



ok so its not possible on start today mod ?

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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby tomortlieb on Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:55 am

I keep receiving a message to enter a password - I checked the site but didn't see one. Can you please share it? Thanks!
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Postby Shuajota on Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:28 am

tomortlieb wrote:I keep receiving a message to enter a password - I checked the site but didn't see one. Can you please share it? Thanks!

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Postby jk31 on Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:11 am

Just downloaded your draftclass and found a few spelling mistakes.

Collin Sexton needs to be spelled with two "L".
Allonzo Trier also with two "L".
Trae Young needs to be spelled with an "A" in his first name.
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Postby Shuajota on Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:15 am

jk31 wrote:Just downloaded your draftclass and found a few spelling mistakes.

Collin Sexton needs to be spelled with two "L".
Allonzo Trier also with two "L".
Trae Young needs to be spelled with an "A" in his first name.

Thanks a lot! I will fix that bro.
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Postby jk31 on Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:09 pm

And another thing: Are you sure with your ages of the player? Some I checked up were wrong (in the Draft class of bluejaybrandon, some ages were wrong, too. strange...).

For example Miles Bridges is 19 years old. Killian Tillie is 19. I didn't check everyone, though.
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Postby Shuajota on Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:25 pm

jk31 wrote:And another thing: Are you sure with your ages of the player? Some I checked up were wrong (in the Draft class of bluejaybrandon, some ages were wrong, too. strange...).

For example Miles Bridges is 19 years old. Killian Tillie is 19. I didn't check everyone, though.

I will edit that with cheat engine, maybe it changed. The game doest allow some years, so the only way is with ce.
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Postby jwin on Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:56 pm

Shuajota wrote:
jk31 wrote:And another thing: Are you sure with your ages of the player? Some I checked up were wrong (in the Draft class of bluejaybrandon, some ages were wrong, too. strange...).

For example Miles Bridges is 19 years old. Killian Tillie is 19. I didn't check everyone, though.

I will edit that with cheat engine, maybe it changed. The game doest allow some years, so the only way is with ce.


there may be some conflict with the latest 2k updates, some people are having save problems, and when i import your draft class into my myleague, it automatically adds vander blue, demetrius jackson,vince hunter, and naz mitrou-long from the free agent list into the draft class
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Postby Shuajota on Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:39 pm

jwin wrote:
Shuajota wrote:
jk31 wrote:And another thing: Are you sure with your ages of the player? Some I checked up were wrong (in the Draft class of bluejaybrandon, some ages were wrong, too. strange...).

For example Miles Bridges is 19 years old. Killian Tillie is 19. I didn't check everyone, though.

I will edit that with cheat engine, maybe it changed. The game doest allow some years, so the only way is with ce.


there may be some conflict with the latest 2k updates, some people are having save problems, and when i import your draft class into my myleague, it automatically adds vander blue, demetrius jackson,vince hunter, and naz mitrou-long from the free agent list into the draft class

In the original game that problem doesn’t exist.
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Postby crazyvianna2912 on Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:46 am

Is there a download link for offline users?
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Postby nizza on Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:03 pm

Donde estan los Links para descargar las caras y las fotos? o esto aun esta en proceso? lo siento por hablar en este idioma pero creo que puedo expresarme mejor así como darte mucho mejor las gracias por este gran esfuerzo :) :bowdown2: salu2
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Postby OdellJR on Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:37 pm

good work
is there a seperate link for the cyberfaces?
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Postby DaCrispy on Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:25 am

Why people hate on modders for making them tons of free content I will never understand :cry:

Amazing stuff by the way and your work is the only reason I'm getting 2K this year :D

I have boycotted console version but mids on PC actually keep the game different and entertaining thank you my good man :)
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby DaCrispy on Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:29 am

I think what has upset bluejaybrandon and is a understandable reason coming from a fellow modders is that...

Having put in all the work in making your own mod and then having someone come along and do the exact same thing when there is so much else that can be done takes away what makes your so special.

I hope I put that in a way everyone can understand
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby Shuajota on Tue Feb 06, 2018 2:08 am

DaCrispy wrote:I think what has upset bluejaybrandon and is a understandable reason coming from a fellow modders is that...

Having put in all the work in making your own mod and then having someone come along and do the exact same thing when there is so much else that can be done takes away what makes your so special.

I hope I put that in a way everyone can understand

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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby jwin on Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:30 am

shuajota, i have a draft class based off of yours that has all draft prospects from like 4 or 5 different mock drafts, real prospects, all of the cpu generated players from your draft class have been edited into college or international players if you want to use this to finish your draft class, you'd just need to edit the tendencies, ratings and faces to your liking etc. if you want to look at it let me know and i'll upload it and pm you the draft class name, but i won't post it publicly since it's based off of your work
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby TGsoGood on Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:32 am

jwin, can you share the draft class on steam? I would like to check it out.
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby Shuajota on Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:23 am

TGsoGood wrote:jwin, can you share the draft class on steam? I would like to check it out.

I can’t check that these days, but I will be working soon on my draft with jwin’s update with more art. I have made new portraits, and cfs that I will add.
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby Rosque on Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:54 am

I thought you left?
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby Wolfy03 on Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:30 am

Shuajota wrote:No more works.
Say thanks to bluejaybrandon (he makes donations for his class draft and I can’t ASK for donations for extra work)
Delete all my posts on this websites


I though you left, also, after reading multiple times you said you had enough of this community and modding, and that you are gonna leave.
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby DaCrispy on Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:46 am

top stuff. :applaud: :applaud:
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Re: DNA DRAFT CLASS 2018│v1.1 RELEASED│By Shuajota

Postby bluejaybrandon on Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:49 am

Rosque wrote:I thought you left?

Wolfy03 wrote:I though you left, also, after reading multiple times you said you had enough of this community and modding, and that you are gonna leave.


Couldn't agree more with the sentiment of the community. Stop threatening to leave and stirring up drama. Follow through on what you've said. You wanted all your posts deleted. You wanted all your threads closed. This one should be no exception.

If you do choose to stay, I think at the very least the community deserves an apology for you storming out again. Every action has been nothing short of selfish. I think people are taking notice. In fact I have PM's from many prominent members that prove they are.

Good luck on the draft class if you do choose to return.
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