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Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:40 am

I once asked Shaujota for directions on how to download and use one of his cyberfaces.. The only way I got him to respond was when I told him I'd donate if he could help me out. And yes, I did create an account just to say that.

I completely understand where Bluejaybrandon is coming from.

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:20 pm

ihatenames321 wrote:I once asked Shaujota for directions on how to download and use one of his cyberfaces.. The only way I got him to respond was when I told him I'd donate if he could help me out. And yes, I did create an account just to say that.

I completely understand where Bluejaybrandon is coming from.

And do you have any evidence to back that claim?

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:23 pm

Beefi wrote:
ihatenames321 wrote:I once asked Shaujota for directions on how to download and use one of his cyberfaces.. The only way I got him to respond was when I told him I'd donate if he could help me out. And yes, I did create an account just to say that.

I completely understand where Bluejaybrandon is coming from.

And do you have any evidence to back that claim?


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He pretty much insists on me donating to him if I want to learn how to use his cyberface lol.

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:38 pm

ihatenames321 wrote:
Beefi wrote:
ihatenames321 wrote:I once asked Shaujota for directions on how to download and use one of his cyberfaces.. The only way I got him to respond was when I told him I'd donate if he could help me out. And yes, I did create an account just to say that.

I completely understand where Bluejaybrandon is coming from.

And do you have any evidence to back that claim?


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He pretty much insists on me donating to him if I want to learn how to use his cyberface lol.


To me this is no better than charging for mods and is despicable. I've been constantly warning the community about this member and his shady practices. To all those that have defended him, just know you're part of the problem. Taking advantage of others that don't know how to apply mods is pathetic. This gives modding a terrible name. This is not community, this is corruption. I hope the mods see this and finally take action. He's created fake accounts, charged for other peoples mods, and now charges to show users how to apply mods. How much more proof do you need that this user is a toxic drain on the community?

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:58 pm

bluejaybrandon wrote:
ihatenames321 wrote:
Beefi wrote:
ihatenames321 wrote:I once asked Shaujota for directions on how to download and use one of his cyberfaces.. The only way I got him to respond was when I told him I'd donate if he could help me out. And yes, I did create an account just to say that.

I completely understand where Bluejaybrandon is coming from.

And do you have any evidence to back that claim?


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He pretty much insists on me donating to him if I want to learn how to use his cyberface lol.


To me this is no better than charging for mods and is despicable. I've been constantly warning the community about this member and his shady practices. To all those that have defended him, just know you're part of the problem. Taking advantage of others that don't know how to apply mods is pathetic. This gives modding a terrible name. This is not community, this is corruption. I hope the mods see this and finally take action. He's created fake accounts, charged for other peoples mods, and now charges to show users how to apply mods. How much more proof do you need that this user is a toxic drain on the community?


I for one am NOT going to be using any of his content..

Looking forward to BlueJayBrandon's 2k18 draft class release tho.

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:11 pm

ihatenames321 wrote:I for one am NOT going to be using any of his content..

Looking forward to BlueJayBrandon's 2k18 draft class release tho.


Glad to hear you're boycotting his stuff. While one less download may not break the bank, hopefully it starts a trend that shows where the real modding community stands on scummy practices like this.

Also, while I thank you for your comment about the draft class, we can discuss that in its own thread. I do want to stress to the community that we have never interacted and this isn't some burner account. I would never stoop to that level and would welcome the mods checking the IP address to verify this. Nothing against you, I can just see how this could be viewed as very suspicious. That being said, I'm really glad you came forward with this and shined light on these pathetic practices. Hopefully you stick around now that you've made an account and I'd be happy to answer any questions you have regarding modding, free of charge.

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:24 pm

You wouldn't be able to get my IP :cool:

But yeah, we're not the same people lol.

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:26 pm

As conclusive this evidence is, we still do need to get the IP to identify if its not a burner account, no offense.

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:35 pm

ihatenames321 wrote:You wouldn't be able to get my IP :cool:

But yeah, we're not the same people lol.


I'm not sure why they couldn't but regardless they can check mine and see I have no other accounts on this IP.


Beefi wrote:As conclusive this evidence is, we still do need to get the IP to identify if its not a burner account, no offense.


First, I'm going to say that's a little offensive. Why would I be dumb enough to constantly bring up this users history with using fake accounts then turn around and use one myself? I clearly speak my mind regardless of what is said, so what purpose would I have hiding behind a burner account?

Second, regardless of if it was a burner account, the proof is clear and convincing. This user is clearly requesting donations before helping install mods. I don't care who brings the evidence forward, it stands on its own. It's a complete disregard for any sense of community. If anyone ever thought this user was not motivated by pure greed, you now have your answer.

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:41 pm

Terrible is your attiude bluejaybrandon. I have no earn money with the modding. I have a lot of spam comments on my facebook to use my own work and requesting me personal requests. I’m free to request some donations to make extra work, as you sent donations for the modders for your draft class.

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:44 pm

You have a problem with me and my work, I’m not making more accounts. The admins can check that. I say the true. You can make donations for other users and I can’t do that on my fb? Come on! It’s my work and to make personal requests is a lot of my time.

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:46 pm

The problem here is bluejaybrandon saw that I’m going to release a Marvin Bagley cf . That’s the problem.
This is a game!

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:48 pm

ihatenames321 wrote:I once asked Shaujota for directions on how to download and use one of his cyberfaces.. The only way I got him to respond was when I told him I'd donate if he could help me out. And yes, I did create an account just to say that.

I completely understand where Bluejaybrandon is coming from.

You are talking about to request my work before to make it. You made me a lot of requests. It’s normal if I aak about donations. It’s my time.
And I always release my moda for free.

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:49 pm

Doncic cf was released 4 months ago for free. I don’t understand the problem here.

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:55 pm

Definitely I’m going to leave this community. So drama for a game and it’s impossible to make projects with a jealous user here.
Bye!

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:58 pm

Shuajota wrote:Terrible is your attiude bluejaybrandon. I have no earn money with the modding. I have a lot of spam comments on my facebook to use my own work and requesting me personal requests. I’m free to request some donations to make extra work, as you sent donations for the modders for your draft class.


My attitude is fine. In fact, I'm promoting the community while you degrade it. I sent donation and continue to do so for modders that do it right. They don't request that I do that, I do it because they deserve it. Asking for it looks like begging.

Shuajota wrote:You have a problem with me and my work, I’m not making more accounts. The admins can check that. I say the true. You can make donations for other users and I can’t do that on my fb? Come on! It’s my work and to make personal requests is a lot of my time.


You have made fake accounts in the past. Nobody is saying you currently are making more but you have and that's the problem. Again problem is that you're requesting, not that donations are made. That's selling mods. You literally asked the guy if he had donated yet...that's pathetic.

Shuajota wrote:The problem here is bluejaybrandon saw that I’m going to release a Marvin Bagley cf . That’s the problem.
This is a game!


I literally couldn't care less. I didn't even know you made Bagley until you just said it. My draft class has a top tier cyberface created by R4zoR. I'm not jealous of a low-res preview render done in blender.

Shuajota wrote:Definitely I’m going to leave this community. So drama for a game and it’s impossible to make projects with a jealous user here.
Bye!


Again, in no way jealous of your content. People are aware of the quality going into my project and it speaks for itself. Please quit threatening to leave only to pop back up with a new thread. If you're gonna claim you're leaving then follow through and actually leave instead of being dramatic yourself and trying to have people beg you to stay. Just move on to your blog or facebook if that better suits you.



Regardless, you literally spammed your own post with 5 different excuses (again, note how he never admits blame just only makes more excuses). You're backpedaling because somebody caught you requesting payment and they have undeniable proof. You can run off an make another thread but it'll result in more of the same because your practices poison the community and people are growing tired of it.
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Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:59 pm

can we get a in game preview of that kyrie.....

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:01 pm

Beefi wrote:As conclusive this evidence is, we still do need to get the IP to identify if its not a burner account, no offense.


bluejaybrandon wrote:First, I'm going to say that's a little offensive. Why would I be dumb enough to constantly bring up this users history with using fake accounts then turn around and use one myself? I clearly speak my mind regardless of what is said, so what purpose would I have hiding behind a burner account?

Second, regardless of if it was a burner account, the proof is clear and convincing. This user is clearly requesting donations before helping install mods. I don't care who brings the evidence forward, it stands on its own. It's a complete disregard for any sense of community. If anyone ever thought this user was not motivated by pure greed, you now have your answer.


Speaking your mind is different, than being a completely brash and harassing and belittling Shuajota everytime. The modding community in this place is small as it is, and your toxic behavior towards others, forcing them to leave, is extremely upsetting and I have no idea why the admins haven't addressed these issues.
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Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:02 pm

bluejaybrandon wrote:
Shuajota wrote:Terrible is your attiude bluejaybrandon. I have no earn money with the modding. I have a lot of spam comments on my facebook to use my own work and requesting me personal requests. I’m free to request some donations to make extra work, as you sent donations for the modders for your draft class.


My attitude is fine. In fact, I'm promoting the community while you degrade it. I sent donation and continue to do so for modders that do it right. They don't request that I do that, I do it because they deserve it. Asking for it looks like begging.

Shuajota wrote:You have a problem with me and my work, I’m not making more accounts. The admins can check that. I say the true. You can make donations for other users and I can’t do that on my fb? Come on! It’s my work and to make personal requests is a lot of my time.


You have made fake accounts in the past. Nobody is saying you currently are making more but you have and that's the problem. Again problem is that you're requesting, not that donations are made. That's selling mods. You literally asked the guy if he had donated yet...that's pathetic.

Shuajota wrote:The problem here is bluejaybrandon saw that I’m going to release a Marvin Bagley cf . That’s the problem.
This is a game!


I literally couldn't care less. I didn't even know you made Bagley until you just said it. My draft class has a top tier cyberface created by R4zoR. I'm not jealous of a low-res preview render done in blender.

Shuajota wrote:Definitely I’m going to leave this community. So drama for a game and it’s impossible to make projects with a jealous user here.
Bye!


Again, in no way jealous of your content. People are aware of the quality going into my project and it speaks for itself. Please quit threatening to leave only to pop back up with a new thread. If you're gonna claim you're leaving then follow through and actually leave instead of being dramatic yourself and trying to have people beg you to stay. Just move on to your blog or facebook if that better suits you.



Regardless, you literally spammed your own post with 5 different excuses (again, note how he never admits blame just only makes more excuses). You're backpedaling because somebody caught you requesting payment and they have undeniable proof. You can run off an make another thread but it'll result in more of the same because your practices poison the community and people are growing tired of it.


You are crazy man! Bye

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:05 pm

Beefi wrote:Speaking your mind is different, than being a completely brash and harassing and belittling Shuajota everytime. The modding community in this place is small as it is, and your toxic behavior towards others, forcing them to leave, is extremely upsetting and I have no idea why the admins haven't addressed these issues.


Please tell me you're being ironic when you say my behavior is "toxic" and you're supporting Shuajota...

Regardless, I've been upfront the whole time. I'm calling out the actual toxic practices when I see them. If the admins want to punish someone who is critical about having standards in behavior and ideals in the community that's fine. That's their prerogative but then that is certainly sending the wrong message. I'm not forcing anyone to leave, I'm just calling out abhorrent behavior in the community and suggesting if he wants to continue those practices, its better done elsewhere.
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Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:06 pm

A lot of guys like that user requests me extra cfs, I only asked for a donation. Im free to ask on my own fb.
But it’s clear, I leave this community and the modding.
I hope the admins delete all my work.

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:13 pm

Shuajota wrote:A lot of guys like that user requests me extra cfs, I only asked for a donation. Im free to ask on my own fb.
But it’s clear, I leave this community and the modding.
I hope the admins delete all my work.


Do you really not see the issue with "I'll send you the new Donic face if you donate."? That is straight up charging for a mod and completely offensive. You keep threatening to leave but never do. For as much as you like to claim everyone else is dramatic, It's all one big drama show with you. I'm not saying you should quit modding, just admit to the shady practices and quit breaking almost every rule that flies in the face of the community.

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:15 pm

bluejaybrandon wrote:
Shuajota wrote:A lot of guys like that user requests me extra cfs, I only asked for a donation. Im free to ask on my own fb.
But it’s clear, I leave this community and the modding.
I hope the admins delete all my work.


Do you really not see the issue with "I'll send you the new Donic face if you donate."? That is straight up charging for a mod and completely offensive. You keep threatening to leave but never do. For as much as you like to claim everyone else is dramatic, It's all one big drama show with you. I'm not saying you should quit modding, just admit to the shady practices and quit breaking almost every rule that flies in the face of the community.

THAT COMMENT IS FROM 2017 WHEN I HADNT MADE DONCIC CF. I WAS LEARNING TO MAKE CFS AT THAT TIME!!!

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:19 pm

Shuajota wrote:THAT COMMENT IS FROM 2017 WHEN I HADNT MADE DONCIC CF. I WAS LEARNING TO MAKE CFS AT THAT TIME!!!


My goodness...you really don't get it do you? The context doesn't matter. You literally said you would make a face if he gave you money. It wasn't out of the a feeling of generosity from the person receiving the content, it was charging for a mod. If they give you money, you give them content. That is completely detrimental to the future of modding.

Re: Shuajota´s Cyberfaces | Marvin Bagley III, Zion Williamson & 5 cfs + (Previews)

Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:20 pm

bluejaybrandon wrote:
Beefi wrote:Speaking your mind is different, than being a completely brash and harassing and belittling Shuajota everytime. The modding community in this place is small as it is, and your toxic behavior towards others, forcing them to leave, is extremely upsetting and I have no idea why the admins haven't addressed these issues.


Please tell me you're being ironic when you say my behavior is "toxic" and you're supporting Shuajota...

Regardless, I've been upfront the whole time. I'm calling out the actual toxic practices when I see them. If the admins want to punish someone who is critical about having standards in behavior and ideals in the community that's fine. That's their prerogative but then that is certainly sending the wrong message. I'm not forcing anyone to leave, I'm just calling out abhorrent behavior in the community and suggesting if he wants to continue those practices, its better done elsewhere.

You are delusional right? Please tell me. Honestly how can't you see this for yourself? Read back your old posts. you came here what? 1-2 years ago? and you feel like swinging your dick around?
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