[Tutorial]2k18 Crowd Lighting Discussion: Importing 2k17/2k16 lighting into 2k18

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[Tutorial]2k18 Crowd Lighting Discussion: Importing 2k17/2k16 lighting into 2k18

Postby bongo88 on Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:52 pm

howdy everybody,
so MJ23LB just released his excellent Boston Celtic floor/stadium mod link here and i noticed that he had changed the crowd lighting. Now, i do not know exactly how he changed the lighting, but i do hope he lets us know what technique he used.

Anyways, i started fiddling around with the stadium files and found that you can drag the crowd from 2k17 stadium files into 2k18 stadium files and it changes the lighting of the crowd. Don't need to hex edit or blender or anything. Just drag and drop. The files from a 2k17 stadium file:

crowd.CrowdData
crowd_led_lighting.FxTweakables
crowd_lighting.FxTweakables
crowd_reflection.xxxxxxxxxx.model --> this file needs to be renamed from the 2k17 name to the 2k18 name.
PostEffect.FxTweakables

the crowd.CrowdData files is the major change in 2k18 lighting. crowd_led_lighting and crowd_lighting and crowd_reflection don't seem to make many changes in 2k18, but maybe they make very subtle changes. not sure.
the PostEffect file is an interesting file. When you drag crowd.CrowdData from 2k17 to 2k18, then the crowd becomes super bright. Then, if you drag PostEffect from 2k17 to 2k18, then the crowd becomes a little darker and the skin tone becomes better (a little redder). Crowd not as dark as default 2k18, but not as bright as 2k17.

oh, last thing. The crowd files must match --2k17 s002.iff must go into 2k18 s002.iff . I dragged 2k17 s012.iff (jazz stadium) into 2k18 s005.iff (celtic stadium) and the crowd did not match the bleachers. just another thing to remember.

anyways, Looyh had notes about stadium lighting found here: http://www.ali213.info/game/thread-6298417-2-1.html
about arena.scne rgb color and posteffect.fxtweakables. roughly translated with google translate:
Looyh wrote:arena.SCNE file, the "Color" array of vc_spotLight_0_sha in the Light object. Larger values ??brighter, the first three data array should represent R, G, B (This is a guess, because the first change to 0 as a whole into a dark green, so the first value should be the brightness value and red, Just look at the revised results guess guess haha).
It should also be in the arena.SCNE file Light object, which is a variety of locations such as color transparency and other attributes of brightness. You can look for it
The overall brightness of the field is PostEffect.FxTweakables this file
other detailed changes in brightness, location 0x0000013A PostEffect.FxTweakable default is 40 can be changed to 00 ~ f0 bigger and more bright

anyways, so whether you using the 2k17 posteffect or the 2k18 posteffect, you can tweak it a little bit through hex.

hopefully MJ32LB will share how he got his crowd looking so good, but this stuff i found about the stadium files.

Some images about the changes of the crowd album: https://imgur.com/a/UCaH2
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2k18 Wizard default
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2k18 wizard with 2k17 wizard CrowdData imported
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2k18 wizard with 2k17 CrowdData & 2k17 PostEffect imported
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2k17 s012.iff CrowdData imported to 2k18 s005.iff - crowd messed up
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2k18 jazz default
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2k18 Jazz stadium with 2k17 jazz CrowdData imported
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2k18 bulls default
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2k18 bulls with 2k17 crowdData imported
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anyways, i prefer 2k17 crowdata and 2k17 posteffect imported. it seems to look the best. but 2k17 crowd data imported alone is nice as well.
I don't have much time to persue this much, but just posting this information for those who want to make mods with it.
Maybe crowdData from 2k16 or 2k15 can also be moved around. I haven't explored this too much. I have fiddled with the postEffect.FXtweakables file in the past, and lighting can be changed through hex.
if anybody finds any new information, please post it here.

many thanks to ksmiz who helped me track down this information.

EDIT: Moving PostEffect.FXtweakables from 2k17 to 2k18 does change the court color. to achieve a darker crowd like MJ23LB, then you must take 2K16 crowd_lighting.FxTweakables and insert it into 2k18 stadium

if you look at the wizards pictures i posted, then the floor color does change. Floor changing color is not good. thank you MJ23LB for the information.
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Re: 2k18 Crowd Lighting Discussions: Importing 2k17 lighting into 2k18

Postby RobDavis on Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:37 am

I might have to reinstall 2k17 just for the crowddata files now. Nice find
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Re: 2k18 Crowd Lighting Discussions: Importing 2k17 lighting into 2k18

Postby KoyaM on Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:15 am

great find but what about those who doesnt have nba 2k17? i mean are there modders out there who already released stadium mods for 2k17?
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Re: 2k18 Crowd Lighting Discussions: Importing 2k17 lighting into 2k18

Postby Manni Live on Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:03 pm

Nice find, this is very useful, luckily i still have my 2k17 installed ill give it a try soon thanks again!
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Re: 2k18 Crowd Lighting Discussions: Importing 2k17 lighting into 2k18

Postby ksmiz on Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:08 pm

KoyaM wrote:i mean are there modders out there who already released stadium mods for 2k17?


lol wut? you been lost out at sea or something?
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Re: 2k18 Crowd Lighting Discussions: Importing 2k17 lighting into 2k18

Postby bongo88 on Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:20 pm

I don't have 2k17 installed on my hard drive. I just grabbed a couple stadiums from the 2k17 court/arena section for some basic testing. downloads.php?cat=205 I haven't even tested all stadiums, just jazz and celtics.
It would take quite a while for me to download 2k17 again with my slow internet. I prefer pc games on dvd.... this download stuff is not so convenient with slow internet speeds. anyways, If somebody updates all the 2k18 stadiums with the 2k17 lighting, it would be a simple mod to make. anyways, i'm just postings the information here for people to use or not use.
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Re: 2k18 Crowd Lighting Discussions: Importing 2k17 lighting into 2k18

Postby MJ23LB on Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:04 pm

Nice tutorial bongo88 (Y)
I did the same method.
However, if you change posteffect, floor color also changes.
If you want to darken crowd lighting only, you can also use 2K16 crowd_lighting.FxTweakables.
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Re: 2k18 Crowd Lighting Discussions: Importing 2k17 lighting into 2k18

Postby KoyaM on Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:24 pm

ksmiz wrote:
KoyaM wrote:i mean are there modders out there who already released stadium mods for 2k17?


lol wut? you been lost out at sea or something?
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well lol i wasnt aware of the same community as like 2k18 because i only play 2k16 last year
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Re: 2k18 Crowd Lighting Discussions: Importing 2k17 lighting into 2k18

Postby Sith on Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:32 pm

Posted All 30 teams archive pack here:
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Re: 2k18 Crowd Lighting Discussions: Importing 2k17 lighting into 2k18

Postby bongo88 on Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:41 am

Sith wrote:Posted All 30 teams archive pack here:
viewtopic.php?f=236&t=105185


Thank you for making a Court Lighting thread with the needed files :) Looks great

MJ23LB wrote:Nice tutorial bongo88 (Y)
I did the same method.
However, if you change posteffect, floor color also changes.
If you want to darken crowd lighting only, you can also use 2K16 crowd_lighting.FxTweakables.


Thank you for replying to this thread MJ23LB. I really like MJ23LB crowd (darkened by the 2k16 crowd_lighting). If anybody has quick access to the 2k16 crowd lighting stuff, it would be great if they posted it to the thread that Sith made. This is some great stuff tweaking the crowd lighting. We can move forward with the thread that Sith made concering the posting of crowd lighting mod files. I'll put [tutorial] on this thread title and hopefully a moderator can move it to the tutorial section.
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Re: [Tutorial]2k18 Crowd Lighting Discussion: Importing 2k17/2k16 lighting into 2k18

Postby maumau78 on Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:20 pm

Guys I need a favor,

For stadium file s595 i need those files from 2k16 and 2k17:

- crowd_lighting.FxTweakables
- PostEffect.FxTweakables

Can someone with 2k16 and 2k17 installed share them with me?

Really thanks in advance
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