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Postby Dee4Three on Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:07 am

HI all,

Just curious... last year was a nightmare performance wise for NVIDIA Cards running the game. it seemed that most people who had good cards were getting terrible FPS.

This isn't really for me, more curious if they did anything to fix the issue. I have an RX 480 with an AMD processor and I can run the game perfectly fine (Same with 2K17). My brother has a NVIDIA 970 in his, and his FPS was horrible even with a good processor for 2K17 (He could run The Witcher 3 on ULTRA with the same rig).
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby sticky-fingers on Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:06 am

same card, FPS not OK without tweaks.
OK after tweaks.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby miketheslummy83 on Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:33 am

sticky-fingers wrote:same card, FPS not OK without tweaks.
OK after tweaks.


What tweaks do you use guys?
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Dee4Three on Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:36 am

miketheslummy83 wrote:
sticky-fingers wrote:same card, FPS not OK without tweaks.
OK after tweaks.


What tweaks do you use guys?


What card/processor do you have?
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby sticky-fingers on Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:41 am

i7 4790K and MSI Gaming 5 but i think the problem is 100% GPU related
it was the same on 2K17 for me. With default drivers settings, GPU was at 99% in nvidia inspector monitor most of the time.
After tweak, it's about 70/80%
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Andrew on Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:03 am

Yeah, performance doesn't seem too much better to me, but I admittedly haven't tried any tweaks yet. Open to suggestions in that regard.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby benji on Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:45 am

1060 6GB, runs same as last year which is just fine though I've never put a fps meter on. Neither one has ever triggered the second tier on my fan settings which is at like 50 degrees or something.

Titanfall 2 is about all that does that, and Civ VI eventually does it after so many hours because progressive heat build up.

I had worse hitching in the last gen games because of the vsync and HDD access issue.

Similarly, the main difference between this year and last year I'm pretty sure has nothing to do with my card but some bad animation transitions that make the traveling in your avatar look like legal dribbling.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Syncinatti on Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:55 am

I was getting a solid 60 fps @4k. But after patch 1.04 fps is lock at 40 WTF!!!
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Andrew on Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:53 am

Tested it out last night. Completely maxed out, I was getting around 50-60 fps with V-Sync on, a bit of stuttering. Performance was better with V-Sync off, but still not as smooth as it is on PS4. i5-4690K, GTX 970, and 8 GB of RAM, so performance should be better.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby sticky-fingers on Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:34 pm

Syncinatti wrote:I was getting a solid 60 fps @4k. But after patch 1.04 fps is lock at 40 WTF!!!


GeForce Experience shadow update ?
Have you check your new vidia settings ? sometimes, i have to reapply my profile after nvidia service did what it want.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby bt2k1 on Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:11 pm

i had no problem on max setting on my AMD FX 8350 and GTX 1060 6GB and 16GB Of RAM on 1080p stable at 60fps.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Dee4Three on Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:08 am

bt2k1 wrote:i had no problem on max setting on my AMD FX 8350 and GTX 1060 6GB and 16GB Of RAM on 1080p stable at 60fps.


I don't think the 1060 was the issue last year or the year before. I think it was the 900 series cards.

I wonder why the game is optimized worse for Nvidia? You never hear AMD users having issues.

Btw, have you guys tried running your AA through Nvidia instead of the game?
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby I Hate Mondays on Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:49 am

Dee4Three wrote:
bt2k1 wrote:i had no problem on max setting on my AMD FX 8350 and GTX 1060 6GB and 16GB Of RAM on 1080p stable at 60fps.


I don't think the 1060 was the issue last year or the year before. I think it was the 900 series cards.

I wonder why the game is optimized worse for Nvidia? You never hear AMD users having issues.

Btw, have you guys tried running your AA through Nvidia instead of the game?



The moment an 1060 has a better performance than a 970, hell, even a 980, it's clear the problem is on their end. I am using 8x AA through my Nvidia control panel - "enhance the application" setting. In game, the AA is set to 4. I get decent performance 80% of the time. The fps drops and stuttering is yet again related to the crowd - AA combo. Some arenas have a broadcast angle of view which includes a bigger part of the crowd than usual (take the Mavericks for example). That pretty much leads to horrible performance during in-bounds plays and fastbreaks. The problem is, I've enabled my FPS counter to check the actual numbers and the FPS drop is anywhere between 1 and 4 during those moments. That's not enough to be noticeable in other games. Yet, here I am, watching my game like going Matrix-slow-mo for a few seconds. As a result, I believe that besides the small fps drop, the other thing that makes me see those moments as a sluggish hell is some classic 2K stuttering.
And as one of my friends would say, when you get big FPS drops, you might consider an upgrade because that's probably your GPU. When your fps are ok but you get stuttering, you might consider a new gamming company because that's just bad optimisation 95% of the time.


Andrew wrote:Tested it out last night. Completely maxed out, I was getting around 50-60 fps with V-Sync on, a bit of stuttering. Performance was better with V-Sync off, but still not as smooth as it is on PS4. i5-4690K, GTX 970, and 8 GB of RAM, so performance should be better.


For every multi-platform game, if we, the PC users complain about the bad optimisation, we are seen as "PC masterace" crybabies who want to max out the game instead of "turning off some NVidia shitty settings" to get decent performance. The moment you Andrew, the most neutral guy I've seen on these forums from the moment I've joined NLSC almost 5 years ago state that the performance should be better, they should be listening lol. That's for you, 2k inside guy. I know you are lurking this thread :cheeky:
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Andrew on Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:17 am

Happy to speak out, if it makes a difference. ;)
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Syncinatti on Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:19 pm

sticky-fingers wrote:
Syncinatti wrote:I was getting a solid 60 fps @4k. But after patch 1.04 fps is lock at 40 WTF!!!


GeForce Experience shadow update ?
Have you check your new vidia settings ? sometimes, i have to reapply my profile after nvidia service did what it want.

Thanks bro... I got it to run back at 60fps. Actually it seems it's running better. I set all my nvidia settings back to default and restarted my PC then put the same settings back in and it worked. I don't know what was causing it because the only change I made was the 2k update. I'm confused...
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby sticky-fingers on Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:01 pm

cool :)
best trick : use nvidia inspector, save your game(s) profile(s), restore when it happens
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:31 am

Has 2K had any responses to the issues? I havn't seen acknowledgment of the issues.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Andrew on Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:29 am

I can't recall anything being said recently.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby sticky-fingers on Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:10 pm

For Windows 10 users : disable all MS options (Xbox / DVR game) in the (new) settings Game pannel

It also seems that last Win 10 update, Fall Creator Update, improves stuttering.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby I Hate Mondays on Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:14 am

I get random stuttering too after the new Windows update. The game works fine for the first part of the quarter, then it all goes to slow-mo, no matter the tempo of the game. Just great.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby garypayton on Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:28 am

I switched to PC this year since i was tired of xbox one lack of customization.

I have a good processor (i 7 3770) and good ram (16 gb) but my graphic card is a geforce 640 (only 2 gb). I overclocked the gpu and i'm playing at 1080 with minimum quality for crowd and all the other little stuffs. The game isn't so smooth though.

Funny is that they recomend a 2gb card for system requirements but it obviously won't run smooth with it. I think i'm going to buy a rx 480 8gb to be ready for 2k19.
I'm tired of consoles.

Btw, anybody playing with 2gb cards wants to share his experiences and tweaks?
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Daex on Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:05 pm

Runs perfectly in 4k here. 4x AA, rest of the settings maxed, on 1080, CPU is 6700k.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby garypayton on Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:07 am

Daex wrote:Runs perfectly in 4k here. 4x AA, rest of the settings maxed, on 1080, CPU is 6700k.



graphic card? just curious...since I have to buy one and i don't want to spend sooo much
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Dee4Three on Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:10 am

garypayton wrote:
Daex wrote:Runs perfectly in 4k here. 4x AA, rest of the settings maxed, on 1080, CPU is 6700k.



graphic card? just curious...since I have to buy one and i don't want to spend sooo much


He said 1080, referencing the 1080 Nvidia card I believe.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1080/
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby garypayton on Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:22 am

yes, sorry
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby elsoulas on Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:29 am

Guys sorry but whatever I do in the Nvidia Control Panel doesn't have an effect on the game.
Only Full Screen Windowed makes things smooth.
I've got a GTX 1080.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby jwin on Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:46 am

garypayton wrote:
Daex wrote:Runs perfectly in 4k here. 4x AA, rest of the settings maxed, on 1080, CPU is 6700k.



graphic card? just curious...since I have to buy one and i don't want to spend sooo much


check this one out, it's affordable and i can run 2k on max settings except aa is set to 4, i have the 2gb card but you might want the 4gb if you can spare the extra cash

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductL ... Submit=ENE

or check it out around the web you may find it even cheaper somewhere else
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Dee4Three on Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:59 pm

That's a good option for a lot of people jwin, and... AA at 4 still looks really good.

Good looking out, a lot of people don't realize that you can get good performance out of this game and not go broke on the PC.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby jwin on Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:35 am

Dee4Three wrote:That's a good option for a lot of people jwin, and... AA at 4 still looks really good.

Good looking out, a lot of people don't realize that you can get good performance out of this game and not go broke on the PC.


no problem, actually here is a whole computer build people could use to upgrade for less than $360 that will run mostly anything on high settings

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-DDR3-Mi ... 5657494011

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-4-Core-Black ... F4WSZ8NHZN

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Socket-Conne ... cpu+cooler

https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX- ... A677427011

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Cache-Deskt ... 8067150011

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Radeon- ... rds=rx+550
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby garypayton on Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:13 pm

jwin wrote:
garypayton wrote:
Daex wrote:Runs perfectly in 4k here. 4x AA, rest of the settings maxed, on 1080, CPU is 6700k.



graphic card? just curious...since I have to buy one and i don't want to spend sooo much


check this one out, it's affordable and i can run 2k on max settings except aa is set to 4, i have the 2gb card but you might want the 4gb if you can spare the extra cash

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductL ... Submit=ENE

or check it out around the web you may find it even cheaper somewhere else
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Dee4Three wrote:That's a good option for a lot of people jwin, and... AA at 4 still looks really good.

Good looking out, a lot of people don't realize that you can get good performance out of this game and not go broke on the PC.


no problem, actually here is a whole computer build people could use to upgrade for less than $360 that will run mostly anything on high settings

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-DDR3-Mi ... 5657494011

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-4-Core-Black ... F4WSZ8NHZN

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Socket-Conne ... cpu+cooler

https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-HyperX- ... A677427011

https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Cache-Deskt ... 8067150011

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Radeon- ... rds=rx+550
351.95


Good to know.

I'm going back to PC gaming after 8 years, so i really lost track of all the tweaks, graphic cards, settings etc.

I see there is people building gaming systems with multiple gtx 1080...I don't get what they are doing with it, maybe playing on a television from the future
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Dee4Three on Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:20 am

I think people sometimes tend to go overboard to ensure they have no issues, as opposed to getting something cheaper that has any question marks. Which, in a sense I understand.

Personally, with the proper searching, you can indeed get a CPU that runs 2K18 and other games like the Witcher 3 on high or Ultra for around $400. Many people think they have to spend $1000 or more to get into PC gaming, that's not the case.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby sticky-fingers on Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:40 am

Graphic drivers settings are a big issue on PC.
You often have to tweak you drivers to have the best performances, even with SLI (compatibility bits fix).
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby dwayne12345 on Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:10 am

Built my PC over a few years. Definitely runs 2k18 1000x better and faster than PS4.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB
i7 7700k 4.2GHz processor 4 cores
16GB RAM DDR4

My build runs the game all maxed out and if I stop caring about tearing from my garbage monitor will run consistently at 240fps. I also Rivatune at 60fps sometimes

If anyone has a recommendation for a high quality monitor let me know because my only fault right now is input lag with Vertical Sync on.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby sticky-fingers on Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:52 pm

If you have money, Gysnc monitor is the best call (no ACER)
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby sticky-fingers on Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:17 pm

The game profile is available for NBA 2K18 with the last drivers update 388.13 WHQL.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Andrew on Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:46 pm

sticky-fingers wrote:The game profile is available for NBA 2K18 with the last drivers update 388.13 WHQL.


Good news. (Y)
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby I Hate Mondays on Sat Nov 04, 2017 2:56 am

sticky-fingers wrote:The game profile is available for NBA 2K18 with the last drivers update 388.13 WHQL.


Damn, that is not the case for me. Just updated my driver via the NVidia Gefore Experience but the software doesn't seem to add 2K18 to the optimizable games page when I scan for my games. Am I doing anything wrong?
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby miketheslummy83 on Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:03 am

Damn in my Nvidia GeFOrce Experience too. NBA 2k18 doesn't show up I don't know why.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby sticky-fingers on Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:28 am

the information comes from nvidia forums and seems solid, sorry if not working.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Andrew on Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:57 am

Not showing up for me in GeForce Experience either.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby elsoulas on Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:28 am

There is no NBA 2K18 profile. Period.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Rosque on Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:44 am

Suddenly having stuttering on AMD, r9 280x OC and fx 6300. Up until a week ago not a single problem. Now it stutters like hell.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby elsoulas on Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:52 pm

If you made a custom NBA 2K18 profile in the Control Panel delete it and now the NVIDIA profile appears. So I was wrong there is a profile and the game works smoothly with the following settings

Full Screen Windowed
Vsync on
AA

I have a GTX 1080.

On the NVIDIA Control Panel I just set Power Management to Prefer Maximum Performance.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:07 am

Rosque wrote:Suddenly having stuttering on AMD, r9 280x OC and fx 6300. Up until a week ago not a single problem. Now it stutters like hell.


In the AMD Settings, set VSYNC to "Always On", with the rest of your profile set to "Balanced". Also, make sure VSYNC is on in game (This makes a difference even if VSYNC is always on in the AMD settings). Also, you can try the FPS control option on the games profile, if you are shooting for just 60 FPS (Which is what I play on), set it to 60.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby I Hate Mondays on Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:03 am

elsoulas wrote:If you made a custom NBA 2K18 profile in the Control Panel delete it and now the NVIDIA profile appears. So I was wrong there is a profile and the game works smoothly with the following settings

Full Screen Windowed
Vsync on
AA

I have a GTX 1080.

On the NVIDIA Control Panel I just set Power Management to Prefer Maximum Performance.


Still not showing up for me though.

Edit: Nevermind, I think I get what you guys mean. Instead of manually selecting the NBA 2k18 .exe inside the NVidia Control Panel, I know have it listed as default. Is that a good thing? Should the optimization be better if that is the case?
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby elsoulas on Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:18 am

Now optimization seems a litle better but full screen windowed is still the only way.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Rosque on Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:46 am

Dee4Three wrote:
Rosque wrote:Suddenly having stuttering on AMD, r9 280x OC and fx 6300. Up until a week ago not a single problem. Now it stutters like hell.


In the AMD Settings, set VSYNC to "Always On", with the rest of your profile set to "Balanced". Also, make sure VSYNC is on in game (This makes a difference even if VSYNC is always on in the AMD settings). Also, you can try the FPS control option on the games profile, if you are shooting for just 60 FPS (Which is what I play on), set it to 60.


I had 60 fps constantly until patch 4. Patch 5 kicks me out of the game as soon as Shaq and Kenny stop talking. Deleting modded folder does not work. Updated gfx drivers. All the other games work fine.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby I Hate Mondays on Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:51 am

The performance is worse for me too after the patch. Both visually and in numbers.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Rosque on Sun Nov 12, 2017 4:15 am

And magically the performance is back at what it was before patch 4. Weird. I hate my PC. Time to start buying a new one.
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Re: NVIDIA Users - Performance this year?

Postby Hadley88 on Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:09 am

I upgraded from a 980 to a 1080 Ti and the Performance is still shit. Its like the Game can't go over 100FPS. I dont know what the fuck they did between 2K16 and 2K17 but it broke the Performance. 2K16 ran at rocksolid 144FPS on my 980 and the last 2 Years I fucking can't get more than 70FPS with slowdowns into the 50s. This is fucking unacceptable especially since the Game does not look any better than 2K16! I feel like this must be some stupid oversight like running Supersampling on the Crowd or something, since my fucking 1080 Ti is a 99% Load and only gets like 90-120FPS at best and thats only on 1080p! I can run other new Games at 4K and get 100FPS...
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