VC rant (not mine)

[JWL3]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA2k/comments ... ga_thread/


Awesome thread that summarizes exactly how I (and a lot of you guys) feel about 2K18.

[JWL3]

I'm averaging 600 VC per game with a C average. I need 182,000 VC to get to level 85. That is 306 games of suck to endure, not counting the badge grinding. The easy way out is to give the rapist what he wants and buy the VC. But I'm not giving them the satisfaction.

Every night starts the same, I turn on 2K somewhat eager to play. I leave after 3 hours with soul crushing morose, barely improving +1 or not at all. Maybe I'm beginning to see why people on PC used Cheat Engine...

[Andrew]

We actually had a decent session of 2K Pro-Am last night. We kind of lucked out in that we were facing some high-rated players, but they weren't too cheesy.

The well-documented issues with grinding and VC aside, there needs to be better matchmaking that pits squads of equal strength and ranking against each other. Otherwise, it makes it harder to get into the online modes, because people who are still working their way up are thrown in there with people who have been grinding like mad and/or paying to upgrade faster.

[benji]

Best part about the VC this year is that they completely demolished the amount of VC you can get from the Mobile App.

You get 100 for logging in, and can get 500 through playing ten quick games.

Last year, you could, in theory, potentially get 2000 a day and rarely walked away with less than a thousand. Especially when the season was on, if you did the pick 'em for the real games.

You can still at least do the quick games like I used to, while I brush my teeth or whatever, just tap tap tap tap which makes it hurry up. If you really don't care about your mobile record you don't even have to tap them in an order to compete since you get the 50 VC per game for just playing it.

Oh, I see that mentioned in the linked post.

[Andrew]

I'm kicking myself for not making better use of the app last year. This year, it definitely doesn't feel worth it.

[ThePointForward]

BTW since I'm on a 1 season contract, after I finish it I should be able to negotiate higher salary and more VC right?

[JWL3]

Best part about the VC this year is that they completely demolished the amount of VC you can get from the Mobile App.

You get 100 for logging in, and can get 500 through playing ten quick games.

Last year, you could, in theory, potentially get 2000 a day and rarely walked away with less than a thousand. Especially when the season was on, if you did the pick 'em for the real games.

You can still at least do the quick games like I used to, while I brush my teeth or whatever, just tap tap tap tap which makes it hurry up. If you really don't care about your mobile record you don't even have to tap them in an order to compete since you get the 50 VC per game for just playing it.

Oh, I see that mentioned in the linked post.

Yup, I noticed the VC creep last year when (in the daily bonus), 250 cards came out a lot less frequently than in 2k16. This year, they eliminated it completely and just gave everyone a flat 100. Almost makes it not worthwhile to use the dumb app. That card game is so unentertaining. I just randomly tap, not caring if i win or lose since you still get 50 VC either way.

I agree that the app hit hurts the most. A lot of people complain about the removal of VC multipliers for difficulty settings. I was never good enough to play at Superstar or All Star level and still do well enough to take advantage of it. The few games at Superstar I played, I did so badly and sucked so hard that it was LESS VC than my average Pro level games' VC.

[JWL3]

BTW since I'm on a 1 season contract, after I finish it I should be able to negotiate higher salary and more VC right?

I"m nowhere near that yet (only on my 10th game of season 1) but they had better. If it was anything like last year, my guess is that the jump in salary is completely minimal, unrealistic to the real NBA where, if you were a stud, you got showered with cash and b*itches at the next contract signing.

Remember 2K16, when they made you play 3 seasons before you could get off the rookie contract and negotiate a real one? I remember the jaw-dropping disappointment when I hurried and grinded to finish season 2 and then had nothing happen, only to realize it was another crud season before you could negotiate. I don't know why I didn't just sim through the entire season to be honest...Stupidity?

[Andrew]

BTW since I'm on a 1 season contract, after I finish it I should be able to negotiate higher salary and more VC right?

I'd assume so. From memory it's a one year deal, similar to NBA 2K17 (which it shouldn't have been last year as a first round pick, but in that respect it was an enjoyable break from reality, so I didn't mind).

[ThePointForward]

I am near the All-Star game where my 71 OVR SF is probably gonna play. I am also comfortably leading the RotY race and currently second in MVP race (Westbrook is putting up triple doubles, so he's leading).

BTW finally grinded out the free throw badge to gold. Lots of green releases now. Good releases are generally 90% or more. If I'm "hot" it's 100% even on non-green releases.
Now grinding Gold relentless finisher (got silver atm).

Right now my goal is roughly 60000 VC to push my attributes where I want them to be really good.

[JWL3]

I am near the All-Star game where my 71 OVR SF is probably gonna play. I am also comfortably leading the RotY race and currently second in MVP race (Westbrook is putting up triple doubles, so he's leading).

Dang man, how do you guys play so well with such bad ratings? I'm a 66 and I am utter shite. Averaging 1pt, 1 assist, 1 reb, 2 turnovers per game. 5 min quarters and just turned the difficulty to Pro (easiest). Are there any other setting out can mess with to make me less useless? Sliders in MyCareer?

[ThePointForward]

I play 12 minutes quarters which gives me lot of time. I also turned on automatic playcalling to have players moving on their own a lot.

My character is 6' 8" SF with Driving and Finishing as primary and defending as secondary.

I pull in lots of rebounds (averaging double digits) and now lots of points, because driving is pretty easy to do with Gold Relentless Finisher badge. And when I get fouled, I already have Gold Free Throw badge.

I now have 19 skill badges, lots of them maxed (2 gold, 1 silver, bunch of bronze), others work in progress in various stages.

BTW I somehow managed to score 90 pts against rockets (both Harden and CP3 were injured in that game).

[Andrew]

I'm still missing free throws with the Bronze Free Throw Ace Badge, so it looks like I need to keep grinding. Shame you can't practice free throws at will once you've exhausted the Badge drills.

[JWL3]

I play 12 minutes quarters which gives me lot of time. I also turned on automatic playcalling to have players moving on their own a lot.

My character is 6' 8" SF with Driving and Finishing as primary and defending as secondary.

I pull in lots of rebounds (averaging double digits) and now lots of points, because driving is pretty easy to do with Gold Relentless Finisher badge. And when I get fouled, I already have Gold Free Throw badge.

I now have 19 skill badges, lots of them maxed (2 gold, 1 silver, bunch of bronze), others work in progress in various stages.

BTW I somehow managed to score 90 pts against rockets (both Harden and CP3 were injured in that game).

How much VC do you get each game on average? I turned it down to 5 min quarters to shorten the games and get optimal salary VC. But maybe your method of maxing out the stats may net me more per min of gameplay. And your way helps you grind badges and unlock upgrades.

[JWL3]

I'm still missing free throws with the Bronze Free Throw Ace Badge, so it looks like I need to keep grinding. Shame you can't practice free throws at will once you've exhausted the Badge drills.

Did 2K get rid of a rating for free throws? From my understanding, badges activate randomly and not every time. (Last year my HOF diner badge would light up on maybe 30% of my assists) if that's the case, the free throw badge boost is only for some of the free throws you take?

[ThePointForward]

I think it's the same amount as everybody, but it's good for stats and badges.

As far as free throws go the stat is hidden, but no badge = 65 rating, brozne = 75, silver = 85 and gold = 95.

[benji]

FT's seem easier this year, using the shot meter anyway, I'm hitting 80%. Last year I'd get perfect and it'd bounce off, now they swish.

Rebounding in the single digits is seriously harder than averaging Rodman like numbers, it's been like this forever, especially as a SF since the AI won't ever box you out you can drop down off the perimeter or slither in for prime positioning and grab them. Even as a PF/C it's easy.

My 66 overall dude is averaging 16 rebounds per 36. Put no VC into his rebounds, usually never do.

Even the last time I did a guard I was averaging like 8 rebounds per 36.

Had a NCAA game in 2K17 where I grabbed 15.

[benji]

You don't really get more VC from playing more minutes this year, they cut that too. But it does make it easier to progress on the badges and stuff, same as when you do the practice stuff and you get rewarded for things that aren't the intention of the drill.

[ThePointForward]

Yup and I make lots of contested layups as well now that I have gold relentless finisher. Silver posterizer makes me almost automatic with dunks, can't imagine what HoF posterizer will look like.

[Andrew]

I'm still missing free throws with the Bronze Free Throw Ace Badge, so it looks like I need to keep grinding. Shame you can't practice free throws at will once you've exhausted the Badge drills.

Did 2K get rid of a rating for free throws? From my understanding, badges activate randomly and not every time. (Last year my HOF diner badge would light up on maybe 30% of my assists) if that's the case, the free throw badge boost is only for some of the free throws you take?

Only for MyPLAYERs. As Dommy73 indicated, the Badges govern the chances this year, which is an approach I'm not a fan of. It's still ridiculous that an Archetype that's intended to be a strong shooter doesn't start out with competent free throw abilities.

[JWL3]

LOL, I just bought 6 boxes of Reese's Cereal (peanut butter and cocoa flavored cereal puffs) cause each one offered 2500 free VC for 2K18. It was on sale anyway for $2 a box and I like the cereal. But 6 boxes...

This is how desperate and sad I've become.

[Dee4Three]

LOL, I just bought 6 boxes of Reese's Cereal (peanut butter and cocoa flavored cereal puffs) cause each one offered 2500 free VC for 2K18. It was on sale anyway for $2 a box and I like the cereal. But 6 boxes...

This is how desperate and sad I've become.

But Reeses cereal is delicious...

It's a win win.

[[Q]]

LOL, I just bought 6 boxes of Reese's Cereal (peanut butter and cocoa flavored cereal puffs) cause each one offered 2500 free VC for 2K18. It was on sale anyway for $2 a box and I like the cereal. But 6 boxes...

This is how desperate and sad I've become.

Next thing you know you'll be on the street corner with a sign saying "homeless need VC"

[JWL3]

LOL, I just bought 6 boxes of Reese's Cereal (peanut butter and cocoa flavored cereal puffs) cause each one offered 2500 free VC for 2K18. It was on sale anyway for $2 a box and I like the cereal. But 6 boxes...

This is how desperate and sad I've become.

Next thing you know you'll be on the street corner with a sign saying "homeless need VC"

HAHAHA. Or worse...back alley rub downs and happy endings for VC...


I think it's 30/70 between 1) I'm dang cheap and don't wanna pay for VC and 2) It's the principle of the thing and I WILL NOT reward scummy behavior on the part of 2K because otherwise, they'll make it even worse next year. But I'm clearly not above buying cereal to get ahead, haha.

If my brain functioned at all, it'd work out that 100 hrs of grinding = $50 of VC. That's a rate of 0.50/hour. Anyone with a job should take that deal.

[Andrew]