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New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby Andrew on Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:24 am

Gameplay footage, impressions, and so forth. I'll add more as they come through.

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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby PeacemanNOT on Thu Jun 22, 2017 3:40 am

Everything looks pretty good. Biggest problem I have from looking at gameplay footage is speed consistency.

A lot of the animations look way too slow especially the dunk animations, while passing animations are extremely fast. Together they look out of place, but I would assume that could be something that can change.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby zzcoolj21 on Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:20 am

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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby Manni Live on Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:00 am

I gotta say, for the first time in a long time LIVE is finally heading in the right direction. I think the graphics lighting and atmosphere look amazing! I love how they increased the size of the players also. cross overs steps backs and stuff look alot better.

However at times the animations look jerky and stiff, hopefully they can fix that in future releases. Hop steps look awkward also i hate how the ball seems like its floating in the air once a player releases the ball. So far it looks like its going to be a purchase for me.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby big-shot-ROB on Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:19 am

They need to put a lot of effort on the physics, because from what it looked on the trailer to this is a significant drop off. I just hope, as somebody said, it¡s kind of fixable with the sliders, but right now it is not looking good for me (gameplay wise).

EDIT: After watching it again, and watching some videos I hadn't watch, I will say it is not that dramatically as it first seemed with Shady00018 video. I like the dribble moves and the layups. Hate the jumpshots and some half of the contact animations.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby I Hate Mondays on Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:36 pm

Really like it. There are some little details that really caught my eye. Like Zaza looking at his teammates like "where is the defense? who allowed him inside?" after he got dunked on. Blocked dunks. The sweat marks on the front and back of a torso during the Venice Beach segments, depending on how hard/long someone played. The mismatches look like they mean everything in this game. Those Harden stepbacks and scoop layups are golden.

There are some things that looked a bit strange. Some jumpshot animations look to me like like they were formed using 4 other different animations parts, all at different speeds. Like you have the step gather, the actual jump, the release and the comeback but something doesn't feel consistent and it's like I can really tell there is a transition between those 4, instead of feeling a smooth one piece animation. Hopefully it can get fixed by the devs or via game sliders/game speed values.

Some people have said that the rebound system is pretty basic and there are no rebound battles inside or tips in, and whoever is nearest the ball gets the rebound. Other people praised the game speed and the flow of the game. I wanted to see if that is true in one of those videos but literally all 10 of them have highlights of scored baskets instead of actual end to end gameplay
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby Andrew on Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:44 pm

I'd agree that some of the jumpshot animations are a bit stiff and jerky, but then others are really smooth, as are other animations. It seems not everything's where it needs to be, but it's looking a lot better than NBA Live 16. I'm also encouraged by the continued reports that it feels a lot smoother as well.

It's a shame we didn't get raw gameplay, and that it's mostly scoring highlights, though I did like seeing a few blocks in there, as well as the defense forcing some missed layups. Probably doesn't help that most people seemed to be playing in Pro difficulty, which tends to be a scoring fest. It's also user vs. user, so it's hard to get too many impressions of what the AI is like when it's all on the CPU.

Cool to see players stumbling when they get their ankles broken. Interesting to see they've adopted more of a 2K approach with the Shot Meter. Not necessarily a bad thing, will have to see how it works out for myself though.

Some awkward moments, but not as much as recent games, and what looks good really looks good now. Again, I'm also encouraged by the reports that it feels better on the sticks, and that it's fun to play. That suggests that even though there is some stuff that still needs polish which is noticeable when you're watching gameplay footage, the experience itself is enjoyable. That bodes well for the core mechanics.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby RJHUNT3R on Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:23 pm

Cant really tell much cuz its all so cut up. I just wanna see the flow of the game.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby bigh0rt on Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:04 pm

Most importantly is how responsive the controls are. You don't get a full feel for the smoothness of animations til then. That said, the gameplay seems slow here for my taste. I'd hope it's editable.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby Andrew on Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:21 pm

There are sliders, more than last year I've heard. A speed slider wouldn't go astray.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby Rodzilla91 on Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:48 pm

I saw some videos last night, the visuals are amazing, and gameplay looks much improved from LIVE 16. My only issue is the animations, or some of them. It looks way smoother than previous games but jumpshots look very hit or miss, like Harden's and how floaty Lebron's looks. It kind of looks like a straight up jump rather then an actual kind of jumpshot if that makes sense. Still very excited though
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby EnterTheV01d on Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:25 am

seems like every player has same shooting animation
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby Rodzilla91 on Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:40 am

Wouldn't go that far. Compare Klays to Hardens, irving to draymond, durant, etc
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby [Q] on Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:46 am

That explains why there was no video during or immediately after the event. EA had all of the video and was making it pretty for these guys to show off. They didn't want another Elite situation where trolls are killing it online

I think whoever said that shot animations are broken into multiple parts is right, leading people to complain about jerky animations. To me that is a good thing, as it allows you more responsiveness to be able to stop on a dime for a jump shot breaking out of a dribble animation. Nothing's worse than to create space and finally get an open look only to not immediately go up for a shot because you're waiting for an animation to finish. I don't care if it doesn't look perfect, as long as it does what I want when I want.

I definitely like the pace and speed of the animations. Someone said passing was too fast? I'd much rather have that than letting the defense recover because you're waiting for you guy to catch the ball.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby zzcoolj21 on Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:53 am

[Q] wrote:Someone said passing was too fast? I'd much rather have that than letting the defense recover because you're waiting for you guy to catch the ball.


I'd imagine Andrew would agree given his myplayer in 2k17 had to throw the ball 10 ft in the air if a player is open in the corner.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby Andrew on Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:00 am

Ugh, the floaty passes. How often they've killed us in 2K Pro-Am. :cry:

You don't want them to be too fast either, but I'd definitely prefer them to be crisp and thrown with some force, not lobbed as though the ball is filled with helium.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby Pdub on Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:11 am

The game looks fun, but we are only seeing the ends of some of the possessions. Very nice finishes around the rim. I'm glad to see some highlight stuff back in the game. It is a video game after all. I'm ready to drive and kick.

Some of the blocks and defensive contests look horrible, but some look great. I think most of the attempts while standing still are the main ones that look funny to me.

I don't like the volleyball sound on the blocks. If they could recognize epic blocks and have that sound to embellish them, that's fine, but for regular blocks I would like it to be toned down.

Stephen Curry's jumpshot. He doesn't really have one. He shoots a set shot. That needs fixing.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby Andrew on Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:32 am

Signature forms need some work, I agree.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby itr_k1lo5 on Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:32 pm

So far so good! hopefully they will touch up the players sig jumpshots and styles, but otherwise loving it. Haven't seen much of the post game yet!

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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby mp3 on Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:52 pm

Animations look improved from Live 16 but agree with most that the jumpshots look a little jerky but I find the camera angle harder to judge the gameplay as it's not the angle I play on but at first glance the game looks good.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby ThaLiveKing on Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:48 pm

mp3 wrote:Animations look improved from Live 16 but agree with most that the jumpshots look a little jerky but I find the camera angle harder to judge the gameplay as it's not the angle I play on but at first glance the game looks good.


yeah, not sure why the jump shots are slow, they need to make everything some what the same speed. Like I said in one of my videos, that if you turn the game speed down past 70, to about 65. Everything seems to flow better. I can't wait for more hands on in August.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby [Q] on Mon Jun 26, 2017 6:06 pm

Where are your videos at? I'd be interested in hearing what you think about the game instead of these random Youtubers
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby I Hate Mondays on Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:24 pm

[Q] wrote:Where are your videos at? I'd be interested in hearing what you think about the game instead of these random Youtubers


Yeah, I want to hear the opinion of someone who wasn't bought with free sneakers.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby Andrew on Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:28 pm

For what it's worth, the folks that have been posting videos so far are on the level. I've actually met a couple of them in person, at a Live community event in 2015.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby [Q] on Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:35 am

I do believe that a lot of these are their honest impressions, but sometimes there is a bit of doubt when they are just overly positive about it or a lot of them say "I wasn't paid to say this"
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby Andrew on Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:34 am

Double-edged sword, I guess. It's something you feel obligated to say, to preempt the inevitable question or accusation, but saying it can also sound suspicious.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby kingpnp on Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:34 pm

I think I'm in love with the ankle breakers. and i hated them in 2k games.

The reason I hated them in 2k is because they were a pre setup animation that would kick in based on 3 things, how high of a playmaking skill did you have, and what ankle breaker badge did you posses, and is your defenders later quickness less than a certain amt. thats it. it was not at all based on physics or even a virtual physics. where it has to do with how hard the defender is going one way and the offensive guy yanks the ball the other way and when the defender tries to change direction mid slide the opposite direction...that would be REALISTIC. that never happens in 2k. its only determined by those things mentioned.

From the first video. I think the ankle breaking animation is triggered for the right reasons.

if you guard a guy and he's going hard left. you as the defender are also smashing the sprint button sliding hard left(or your right) with the offensive player. If the offensive guy changes direction without notice and does so quickly and catches you off guard. You have 3 choices. let go of the stick and the sprint button. you will come to a momentum stop. no ankle breaking animation. but your man will either by wide open for a jumper or you will be left in the dust when he goes to the basket.

OR get ya ankles broken... You try to instead stay on the sprint button and stay on the analog and attempt to force it back the opposite direction to match your offensive player. but your a half a step to late. depending on your defensive abilities/lateral quickness probably gives you a higher chance of recovering without getting your ankles broken terribly. but they will get broken a bit regardless due to your sprint button push and forcing the controller one way hard, then trying to go back the other way hard without letting it go at all. this is realistic.

https://youtu.be/s7Svbk8Zyas?t=151

^^^ It looks as if the ankle breaker is late. its not. thats when he tried to cut back. how do you stop this? read above the first part. OR anticipate that the guy is going to cut back the other direction. you move over there before he does and bam. no broken ankles. Now if he keeps going hard left. you're blown by. sorry. Thats real life basketball.
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby ThaLiveKing on Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:19 am

[Q] wrote:Where are your videos at? I'd be interested in hearing what you think about the game instead of these random Youtubers


I honestly been so busy with school I thought I posted them here. I have two videos where I'm talking about my direct hands on after the event. I was tired after a long day while recording them, but they are fresh impressions from Saturday and Sunday. I even spent Sunday all day pretty much messing with difficulty and slider settings.

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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby Andrew on Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:03 am

Good stuff!
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby Phreak50 on Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:45 pm

What the hell happened to the smooth jumpshots from 16?

Now they are all square on and stuff and everyone seems to have the same default animation. This is my point about one step forward, two steps back with this game.

No matter how many bad features bball games have had over the decades, the ones with smooth and enjoyable jumpshots were always playable and worthwhile in some form or another.

This just looks horrendous I am sad to say.

Here we are waiting two years for someone amazing looking on the Frostbite engine and maybe something revolutionary and all we get is this?

Looking at the various countrie's charts for most downloaded mobile games, NBA Live is in most and even pops up a bit in the highest grossing games on mobile. Given that it's a free to play game with microtransactions and doing so well, I think it's clear to see where EA is now focused on with their console version of this game. Almost no effort put into the actual game and most likely just creating a way for them to make a bucket of microtransaction cash from their 'non-hardcore' modes.

I give up. :/
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby ThaLiveKing on Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:48 pm

Phreak50 wrote:What the hell happened to the smooth jumpshots from 16?

Now they are all square on and stuff and everyone seems to have the same default animation. This is my point about one step forward, two steps back with this game.

No matter how many bad features bball games have had over the decades, the ones with smooth and enjoyable jumpshots were always playable and worthwhile in some form or another.

This just looks horrendous I am sad to say.

Here we are waiting two years for someone amazing looking on the Frostbite engine and maybe something revolutionary and all we get is this?

Looking at the various countrie's charts for most downloaded mobile games, NBA Live is in most and even pops up a bit in the highest grossing games on mobile. Given that it's a free to play game with microtransactions and doing so well, I think it's clear to see where EA is now focused on with their console version of this game. Almost no effort put into the actual game and most likely just creating a way for them to make a bucket of microtransaction cash from their 'non-hardcore' modes.

I give up. :/


The Jump shots are better in 18, I hope they fix the step back and off the dribble J's because they seem a bit off, but other than that, hands on wise, I thought they were fine. We'll see how they are in a month when the demo drops
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Re: New Gameplay Videos from EA Play (5v5, The One)

Postby Izzy Snow on Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:57 pm

I Hate Mondays wrote:
[Q] wrote:Where are your videos at? I'd be interested in hearing what you think about the game instead of these random Youtubers


Yeah, I want to hear the opinion of someone who wasn't bought with free sneakers.


While I used to be opposed using YouTubers who aren't even true NBA Live fans, I now do think more exposure from bigger channels can only help at least the sales of the game. But...I've always questioned EA's approach in marketing and yes I do think giving these YT's free sneakers just makes their opinion look even more suspect. There are some honest feedback out there from YT's like Mindframegaming.
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