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Re: Pro Wrestling X

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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:27 am

I'm still hoping the game succeeds and am keen to check it out, but I have to admit I'm wondering whether it'll suffer a similar fate to Duke Nukem Forever, ultimately ending up feeling too dated for a brand new game. After all, No Mercy is over a decade old at this point and while it was a great game then and still fun to pick up now, it certainly does show its age in some areas.

I guess in that respect I'd compare it to NBA Live 2000. That was a high point in the NBA Live series, for its time it's a very good sim-oriented basketball game and there are actually still folks playing and patching it, but you couldn't make a new game based on that tech. Don't get me wrong, like I said I hope the game succeeds and I'm interested in checking it out; I think it'll be fun, the style will certainly be nostalgic and the modding capabilities will be awesome. I just wonder if it'll leave us with a feeling of "Hmm, yeah, that's why they moved away from that".
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:23 pm

But with No Mercy we never got a good reason why they moved away from it, especially with the fun of the Def Jam games that used the engine. Honestly, the only real reason I don't play No Mercy all the time is because there is no ref to beat up, and I dislike the tables.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Sun Sep 09, 2012 1:04 pm

THQ ended their partnership with AKI, basically. Beyond that, the engine is certainly outdated in 2012. Like I said, I can pick up No Mercy again and really enjoy it, but I do wonder if a new game based on that tech will end up feeling a bit outdated after playing the games developed by Yuke's.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:48 am

Dave on FB: "It's time we picked a date, held our breath, believed in our fans, and prayed to Macho Man that we are doing the right thing."
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:36 pm

So...light at the end of the tunnel?
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:32 pm

I have no doubt that the game will suck when released....but if they are going to be as open with modding as they say, the PC wrasslin community will take this and run run run. As long as the core gameplay is there, people will model, skin, tweak, and hopefully animate (with Euphoria?) and make this playable.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:43 pm

Was the Facebook update a hint that a release is finally in sight, though?
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:27 pm

I guess so, we'll find out more Friday in the newsletter. I bet it wont be until Spring 2013 at the earliest though.


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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:54 am

Well, it's a step closer at least, presumably.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby koberulz on Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:50 pm

JaoSming wrote:Video on N64ness

So it's like No Mercy, rather than other wrestling games, because it has a strike button and a grapple button? Maybe it's that I've never played No Mercy, so I'm missing something subtle, but...what?
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:56 pm

play No Mercy, download Project 64, find the ROM, do it. It holds up surprisingly well over the years.

Its more of the control system, pacing, etc.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby koberulz on Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:26 am

JaoSming wrote:download Project 64

That makes enough sense, but
find the ROM

makes none at all.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:26 am

looks like if you drop some coin you get alpha build access on Nov 7th.

I don't want your money unless I can give you something in return. I have that now. I look at the states other indie developers have shipped their games in, and Uprising is way ahead of a lot of those alpha and beta stage games that developers give pre-order customers access to.

So on Nov 7th I'm going to open the doors again and accept your help and your support. This time I'll have something to give you. A lot, actually. And it's not a coffee mug ;)


I will gladly do that.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:45 pm

I may or may not. I'm interested in the game but if it's a little too much for an alpha version and there isn't a discount on the full version, I may pass.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:22 am

So they are going all Kickstarter on us for the second game they make

http://www.prowrestlingx.com/blog/wrest ... etter-556/

I'll give $25 for both Uprising and the second game
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:42 am

Second game? Gotta get one out first. Nice to hear things are moving forward, though.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:57 am

well, afaik, Pro Wrestling X is the second fully featured game. Uprising is like a demo, beta, half version, proof of concept etc.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:53 pm

Ah, OK. I took it to mean a sequel, which would certainly be ambitious before they get the first one out. In any case, once again it's good to see this moving forward, inching closer and closer to a release after so long.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:37 am

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pro ... estling-ga
and their Kickstarter is up, and I was #30 our of 30 for the $20 "sale" option
Pledge $20 or more
EARLY BIRD SPECIAL, THIS TIER WILL HIT $25 WHEN FULL! Get the games + all the goodies mentioned, PLUS we'll give you a chance to get behind the curtain: exclusive forum access and admission to the closed beta of Pro Wrestling X. Not enough? OK, we'll send you a Newsletter Anthology PDF too - over 550 newsletters - and "The Making of the Pro Wrestling X Kickstarter" podcast.


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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:55 am

New video with rehashed and new gameplay footage. For the Kickstarter peoples

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And the secret feature video

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Ability to make the game look like N64 lighting, Black and White filter, or Toon Shading on the fly
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:47 am

another new update for the Kickstarter, if you do at least $50 you can get your own wrassler in-game

$50 and above – All current rewards listed in the sidebar PLUS a created character using the base CAW animations and assets.
$75 and above – All current rewards, a created character PLUS the texture files to customize the look.
$100 and above – All current rewards, created character, texture files PLUS a soon-to-be revealed bonus.
$150, $250, $500 – All current rewards, created character, texture files, bonus PLUS an in-game "Lifetime Championship" belt designed by Jesse Justice (design based on the backing amount).


still, $50 for both games is enough for me with this project....might have to ask the wife
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:24 am

Not bad.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:25 am

I have my doubts this will get funded though, but if it does I am recreating my Rock Band guy
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:29 am

So they're not really getting closer to the target?
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:03 am

16% of $75k with 12? days left

second thought on the CAW if this happens, when we were kids my buddies and I created this evil guy "Fisher" based off this AOL chat kid who theatened to murder us. Black pants/long sleeve shirt, taker gloves, hockey mask, that would be a proud moment. Better than a tall Asian ginger with a top hat and Lincoln beard
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:11 am

I don't know, that's a tough choice. :lol:
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:41 am

some new videos up from them, mods will have a "sgsm" folder for textures and models and such, protecting original files



and the emotional video on the background, about his dad and his motivation for the project....
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:38 am

Gotta give him a lot of credit for posting a video like that, no wonder it took a few attempts for him to record it.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:53 am

Just pledged $50, seems comparable to what I'd pay for what is basically a collector's edition of the game and idea of getting a character in the game is pretty cool. Unfortunately it's going to take a lot more people digging deep to reach that goal...kind of a shame as it would only need 2500 people contributing $30 to reach the target of $75,000. I'd have thought there'd be at least that many people interested in the game.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:00 am

well thanks for doing it with me at least. I really hope something amazing happens this week, but it really isn't looking too good
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:18 am

Indeed. It's strange, it seems like it still has a very enthusiastic following, enough people to chip in what would essentially be RRP to reach the goal. You'd be getting a copy of the game too, so it's not like you have to chip in and then pay more on top of that to get it; that kind of goodwill certainly made me more willing to pledge a little money.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Kenny on Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:35 pm

I just pledged 50 dollars as well. I used to love the wrestling games on N64. Had lots of fun playing WCW vs NWO world tour. Plus I couldn't resist the idea of myself being in the game.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:00 am

thanks guys :mrgreen:
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:18 pm

At least we can say we tried to do our part. :)
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:59 am

footage of the broken game I've conned you into buying
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Again, not exactly a good promo video for funding and such
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:13 am

Perhaps not, but I can appreciate the honesty. I think the bottom line is that a bulk of the hard work is done, so it's not like they're requiring funding for a game that's being started from scratch.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:54 pm

and failed. But thank you guys for joining in with me.

Nice update though

Ok...well there you go! Thank you to ALL of you for your support! The crew and I are actually more fired up than ever before. We learned a lot from this Kickstarter. Most importantly we learned what we need to do next. You need to get your hands on something and PLAY IT. We're going to do that. Soon. I'm talking days here. Not weeks. Our lead programmer wants Uprising beta in the wild by Tuesday. I want to make that happen.

We also learned that we have an absolutely beautiful army of supporters out there who genuinely want us to succeed. So we'll keep pushing ahead and we'll keep giving you reasons to believe in us. We can't show you perfection, but we can show you progress. I've been updating you guys every week for over 500 weeks and that will keep on keepin' on. Only soon you'll be updating US with feedback on actual playable builds of a game.

So thank you all. You'd think we'd be tempted to feel like failures for not raising the $75k. Quite the opposite. We feel more pumped and excited than we have in a long long time, thanks to you.

Please stay tuned. We'll be giving you stuff soon. And we'll be accepting you're support again soon. This has been an amazing, educational, and motivating four weeks. We're better than ever. And that's a shoot :)

Now if you'll excuse me. I'm going to walk away from this computer and spend some much needed time with my incredible wife and daughter who haven't seen much of me for the last few weeks.

I'll be talking with you again very very soon.

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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:38 am

I found that update to be encouraging as well. If there's a silver lining to the first Kickstarter attempt, it's that it was just a few thousand dollars short of a third of what they were asking for. Getting a demo out there so that people can try it out and see that releasing the game is much more than a pipe dream should hopefully encourage more support on their next attempt. As I said before, 2500 people pledging RRP of $30 would make it happen. They almost got a third of the way there with a lot of people probably being sceptical that the game would ever come out and not being keen to pledge without first having a playable demo, so with that added incentive they could very well reach their target next time around.

In any case, I'll probably be inclined to pledge $50 again when the opportunity comes around again.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:38 pm

Video on the beta that will be coming out shortly to those that send them some money. It sounds like any money gets you the beta (which will get updates like rope physics, CAW, more moves, different matches, more animations, all free) but I'm wondering if they are going to do more tiers since they won't be redoing the kickstarter.

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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:47 pm

Good deal. (Y)

I watched that video a few hours ago when he posted it on the official Facebook page. I was a little surprised and disappointed that the beta is as far behind in certain areas as it is, I could see that perhaps turning a few people off pledging, but at the same time this does seem like it could work out a lot better for the game in terms of beta testing, development and raising the funds. I like the idea of getting the free updates/DLC for pledging, so hopefully people will take to it. I reckon I'll still be pledging, eager for more details.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:19 am

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standing tap A weak strike tap B strong medium hold A+B strong strike tab B weak grapple attempt hold B strong grapple attempt


Y run towards opponent
Y+direction run towards ropes/turnbuckle


Y+towards turnbuckle: climb turnbuckle
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X pick/drop weapon
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Click Left analogue: taunt

When in grapple state
LB change grapple position
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in strong front grapple tap A strong grapple move 1 tap B strong grapple move 2 hold A strong grapple move 3 hold B strong grapple move 4 A+B Special Move


in strong back grapple A strong grapple move 1 B strong grapple move 2 A+B Special move


Turnbuckle front grapple tap A grapple move 1 tap B grapple move 2 hold A grapple move 3 hold B grapple move 4 A+B grapple move 5


Turnbuckle back grapple A grapple move 1 B grapple move 2




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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby Andrew on Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:45 am

Certainly very No Mercy-like. Nice. (Y)
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Re: Pro Wrestling X

Postby JaoSming on Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:03 am

Uprising is now available!

http://uprising.prowrestlingx.com/

just did the $50 tier, for the CAW


no support for any resolution, and it stretches on widescreen. Figuring out some stuff asap before I decide to video or move on, lol.


Definitely a game here though,
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Postby deihatein on Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:53 am

Nice (Y). Although I don't have any interest(yet) in the game, I wish the game to be successful.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X: Uprising Released!

Postby JaoSming on Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:04 am

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Re: Pro Wrestling X: Uprising Released!

Postby Andrew on Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:13 am

Just went for the $50 package myself...well, discounted to $45, which worked out to be $44.25 AUS with the current exchange rate.
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Re: Pro Wrestling X: Uprising Released!

Postby Andrew on Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:55 am

Realised that I didn't offer any thoughts before, so here goes.

It's definitely primitive and a lot needs to be done in terms of those free updates, but the framework for the game is definitely there, and then some. It's v0.1 and very much a beta, but it seems like they are going to achieve an enjoyable No Mercy-like experience. Looking forward to the updates.
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Postby JaoSming on Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:28 am

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