Speed & defense broken..game runs too fast

[nextnba]

So if you haven't notice this, then don't read this post because it's going to ruin your gaming experience. When 2k15 came out, one of the main thing that made it unplayable for some is that speed and defense is broken, especially for those of us that plays against CPU instead of other people. It was also broken in 15, 16 and it remains broken in 17. At first you don't notice it because the speed and defense is fine for like the first 10-15 min of gameplay. Your players move at their rated speed, CPU plays on ball and regular defense. It usually plays fine when you load your first game, plays fine for the 1st quarter, first half, or so and you are thinking this is like the best game ever made!!!! But then for some unknown reasons, speed and defense breaks. I'm not sure if the graphic card adjusted or what but your players speed starts to become really really fast and CPU no longer plays on ball defense or any defense at all. You can pretty much run around the court and just drive to the hoop at will. Some are calling this a speed boost but to me it feels like speed breaks and everyone becomes super fast.

If you don't notice this then do this. When you load of 2K, play the first half and you will notice that it feels fine but after half time, pay attention to see if the speed becomes super fast and cpu no longer plays any defense. Drive to the hoop and see if you can drive at will. Then decrease speed, acceleration, lateral quickness to 25 in slider for both user and CPU. You will still notice that your players are still running around really fast. Then take it to the extreme and lower speed, acceleration and lateral quickness to 0. At first, it might feel slow but keep playing it for a few minutes and then you will notice that speed is broken and you are pretty much running around crazily fast even when it's set to 0 in slider.

This is frustrating me so I decided to do a video to show this. In the video you will notice that I have speed, acceleration, and lateral quickness set to "0" for user and CPU. I also have on ball defense set to 100. Driving contact/inside contact to 75, playing at Superstar level. Now you're gonna think, this looks pretty normal but keep in mind that I have set speed, etc to "0"!!!! Look at how fast I am and how fast CPU is at "0". I can drive to the hoop and run pass CPU at will. When I play at 50, I'm like flying around at super speed. I don't know why it breaks. The first 10-15 of gameplay for me is perfect. Speed is normal, AI is smart. Then it just falls apart, speed becomes super fast, AI don't play defense anymore and it's so annoying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plNtOqq ... e=youtu.be

[Dee4Three]

Hey,

I havn't noticed it really in this game, and I've put in well over 30 hours already. It seems way better than last year. Speed boost (first step) or changing gears needs to stay in the game this year. Reason being: In real life, NBA ATHLETES change gears all the time, and many players have quicker first steps/gear changes than others. Last year, it felt the same using Iverson as it did someone with half his speed, that's very unrealistic. Players like Amare Stoudamire (in his prime) should have a much quicker first step than Kendrick Perkins (In 2K16 this was not the case).

Players feel lighter to move around this year, I can rotate easier, and the computer AI itself seems to rotate quicker. Defense feels tighter. Every now and than you get that ANNOYING situation where a big guy runs the length of the floor (down the middle) and he outruns his defender and get an easy dunk, which almost never happens in real life... but otherwise it feels really good to me.

But I'll say again, I havn't experienced the breakdowns you have. I play on HOF.

[Uncle Drew]

^^ Maybe it's me, but I've yet to see what you've just described. I've also noticed that defending 3 pt shooters on screens is still damn near impossible. And what gives with players leaving their man, for wide open cuts to the basket? The defense is too slow to react with help side coverage. Some of the same issues that happened in 2K16, are still prevalent. I'm not complaining sorta, gameplay has improved, no question. I just want a well played competitive game, without CPU cheese..... I'll get off the soapbox now.

[fjccommish]

I've been mentioning it for years.

[senhorxxx]

So if you haven't notice this, then don't read this post because it's going to ruin your gaming experience. When 2k15 came out, one of the main thing that made it unplayable for some is that speed and defense is broken, especially for those of us that plays against CPU instead of other people. It was also broken in 15, 16 and it remains broken in 17. At first you don't notice it because the speed and defense is fine for a little bit. Your players move at their rated speed, CPU plays on ball and regular defense. It usually plays fine when you load your first game, plays fine for the 1st quarter, first half, or so and you are thinking this is like the best game ever made!!!! But then for some unknown reasons, speed and defense breaks. I'm not sure if the graphic card adjusted or what but your players speed starts to become really fast and CPU no longer plays on ball defense or any defense at all. You can pretty much run around the court and just drive to the hoop at will. Some are calling this a speed boost glitch. If you don't notice then do this. Play the first half and you will notice that the speed becomes faster. Then decrease speed, acceleration, lateral quickness to 25 in slider for both user and CPU. You will notice that your players are still running around really fast. Then take it to the extreme and lower speed, acceleration and lateral quickness to 0. At first, it will feel slow but keep playing it for a few minutes and then you will notice that speed is broken and you are pretty much running around crazily fast even when it's set to 0 in slider. So disappointed in 2k. Some things just never get fix.

What is your video card?

[nextnba]

I have an i5, 12gb ram, GeForce GTX 750 (2gb). I'm not experiencing any lag at all. But I don't know why speed and defense keeps breaking. I gone through a few video card since 2k15 and the same thing happens when I upgrade graphic card. I think the game is broken but it seems that some of us experience it and others don't. Unless people are just not noticing it or they just don't care.

[senhorxxx]

I have an i5, 12gb ram, GeForce GTX 750 (2gb). I'm not experiencing any lag at all. But I don't know why speed and defense keeps breaking. I gone through a few video card since 2k15 and the same thing happens when I upgrade graphic card. I think the game is broken but it seems that some of us experience it and others don't. Unless people are just not noticing it or they just don't care.

The last nba 2k I played a lot was the 2k14, I noticed not happen the problem you mentioned.
I have here the 2k16, I will install and look more closely if it happens. If I see something, I do not buy the 2k17.
Thanks for reporting.


sorry for my English, brazilian guy.

[nextnba]

This is frustrating me so I did a video to show it. I also added the video in my initial post. The graphic is great and I have no lag at all. The animations are right on. Looks like I'm watching a real live game. But look at how fast it is when I have speed, acceleration, and lateral quickness set to "0" for user and CPU. I also have on ball defense set to 100. Driving contact/inside contact to 75, playing at Superstar level. I can drive to the hoop at will and I'm still flying around pretty fast at "0". When I play at 50, everyone is just flying around like crazy. There is no point for me to even take a jump shot because I can just fly to the hoop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plNtOqq ... e=youtu.be

[Uncle Drew]

Chris Smoove pointed this out on You Tube. The rotations are totally screwed up with the wrong player leaving their man to help out, leaving shooters wide open. I hope they fix this in a patch or something. However, it's my experience that if they fix one thing, it screws up something else.

[nextnba]

Smoove is talking about help defense. I agreed with him that help defense is broken too but it's not as bad as the speed breaking. What I'm talking about is the speed breaking and the game becomes so fast for no reasons. At first I will play on 50 for speed, acceleration, etc. and it's fine. But then speed breaks and everyone's speed become so fast. I would decrease it to as low as 0 and every one is still running so fast. I can drive by CPU at will and just dunk or do layup. When the speed breaks, the defense breaks too. It's like the AI becomes dumb and CPU start sliding all over the place, running around for no reasons.

[fjccommish]

As bad as it was in that video, every once in a while it's even worse. Sometimes you can run straight down the court. The defense parts like the red sea. Nobody even touches you much less gets near to you.

[Dee4Three]

I will agree that some of the NBA 2K16 lapses still certainly exist. I feel like the half court defense has improved more than the Fastbreak defense. I've had that whole "guy run up the middle of the floor and defenders move out of the way" thing several times.

I also dont get the double teaming in 2k16 or 2k17, it seems so random sometimes. I was playing an exhibition game using the 07-08 celtics against the 07-08 Rockets, and randomly my team just started doubling Shane Battier... he hadn't even made a shot, and hes not a player you EVER double anyway.

I like this game far more than 2k16, but I agree.... Sometimes I scratch my head at the defense.

[nextnba]

I've been watching some gameplay on youtube. Like this one for example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baTovqYStf4

His gameplay is slow and he struggles to drive pass CPU. It seems like his is not broken. How is that my gameplay is so fast even though, I set speed, acceleration, lateral quickness to "0". Even on "0" my gameplay looks faster than his. I am able to run pass CPU and drive to the hoop at will but he can't do crap. Is it my video card? Are some people not experiencing this speed break and their gameplay is slow? Or are people just not pressing the "sprint" and just purposely not trying to drive to the hoop?

[jwin]

have you overclocked your cpu? i had a problem with 2k16 being super fast because i overclocked my cpu with amd overdrive, it was like playing in fast forward. once i went back to the default clock settings it played at normal speed

[nextnba]

No I have not. I don't even know how to overclock it. When I first load up a game, the gameplay will be fine for somewhere in between 5-10 min and then the speed breaks and any gameplay after that becomes super fast. This has happened to me since 2k15 and the same things happens even though I have upgraded my cpu and upgraded video cards. I assume the game is broken and others just don't mind the speed break.

[Dee4Three]

No I have not. I don't even know how to overclock it. When I first load up a game, the gameplay will be fine for somewhere in between 5-10 min and then the speed breaks and any gameplay after that becomes super fast. This has happened to me since 2k15 and the same things happens even though I have upgraded my cpu and upgraded video cards. I assume the game is broken and others just don't mind the speed break.

This is not the game. This might be a GPU issue. Have you had the same GPU since 2K15? My speed doesn't break routine at all. I feel like my game plays the same throughout the whole game. In video settings, do you have it set to 60 hz? Are you playing on a monitor/tv or laptop?

Also, did you buy it pre-built? Sometimes the seller will overclock and keep it overclocked. So when you buy it, you don't even know unless you go into the settings and see it. I don't overclock, I run everything stock.

Your problem sounds really annoying.

[nextnba]

Yep. It's a Dell from Best Buy. When I was playing 2k15, I had an Asus with a different graphic card and had the same issue with speed break. Had an issue with speed break since 2k15, 2k16. Here is the post from 2k15, where several of us were experiencing speed breaks. We never found a fix so we just stopped playing the game.

viewtopic.php?f=157&t=97610

If it's happening to us, it must be happening to everyone. Given that I gone through 2k15 and several computers and is still experiencing it. My buddy has a PS4 and he says he doesn't experience speed break but I'm thinking he is just not paying attention to it. I'll test it out on his PS4 the next time I visit him.

[Philip00]

I've experienced this for years too. Even from 2k13. I still don't knwo how to fix this, anybody found the solution?

[nextnba]

Right now, I have my speed in setting set to 40 and that seems to work okay for me. When the speed doesn't break, it feels a bit slow but the speed always breaks after a few min of playing for me so 40 seems to work well for now. I will keep playing this way to see if it will be stable. I'm worried that after playing at 40 for a little bit, the speed will break again and it will return back to being really fast even at 40.

[nextnba]

After hours of playing around with it, the speed still breaks on me even with setting speed on 40. Even at 40 when the speed breaks, the game still becomes very fast. I don't know what is causing it to break. It seems to just happen randomly. When it doesn't break, it's a very good game. The AI is very smart and the game play is awesome. But when it breaks, the players feel like they have no weight and you can run around pointlessly.

[alienlife]

Is this thread still alive? I would like to suggest lowering the game speed. I heard somewhere that someguy experienced problems like you. His solutions are lowering the gamespeed to 0.4 (or something like that)

[nextnba]

I was able to get 3 good games in and then it broke on me. When it breaks, speed and defense breaks, everyone slides around like crazy. I play on superstar slider. What has worked for me is that when it breaks, if I change the slider to something else like Hall of Fame and then load a game and change it back to superstar, then it returns back to normal again.

[nextnba]

Has anyone found a solution to this? It's still happening to me and it's so frustrating. I can get in a few good games and then the game starts to run really fast. I been googling and people also have problems with playing other games where the games run too fast.

https://forums.emulator-zone.com/showthread.php?t=673

What I noticed is that if it starts to run too fast, then I reinstall my graphic card driver and then it runs fine for a few games and then it starts to run fast again. WTH is going?????

[fjccommish]

Have you called tech support for your video card?

[Dee4Three]

I feel like the defense breaks down in the second half of almost every game, and for not apparent reason. It's better this year in 2k17, but it happens far too often still. I get really frustrated when I see a team shoot really high from the field, like 58% in the second half, after the shot 38% in the first half. The reason they shot such a higher percentage was based on the defense just breaking down, and the offense getting red carpets to the hoop. And I agree, it does seem like the game is a lot faster at points with speed rating not factoring in.

For example, in the second half of a lot of games, Shawn Bradley (01-02 Mavericks, who is 27 on speed), looks freakishly fast, and he beats all the opposing players up the floor for dunks. I play the game on Hall of Fame, and I see this happening so much.

My Card is not overclocked, and I didn't have this issue with 2k15, or 2k14 or 2k13. It's been the last two games. I am starting to wonder if it has to do with the game itself, and not the set ups.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but I get your frustration.