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Postby BronBron06 on Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:17 pm

On my end, I dropped MSAA from 8 to 4
No more stutter, steady 60 fps, maybe 8 is just too much.


Also FAST_TEXTURE_FORMAT_CONVERSION = 1 crashed my game, changed it back to 0
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Postby I Hate Mondays on Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:49 pm

BronBron06 wrote:On my end, I dropped MSAA from 8 to 4
No more stutter, steady 60 fps, maybe 8 is just too much.


Also FAST_TEXTURE_FORMAT_CONVERSION = 1 crashed my game, changed it back to 0



MMSAA set to 4 gives me 60fps gameplay, but during cutscenes it drops to like 30 fps or lower. This is not a fix :(
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Postby dreamagain on Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:39 am

I hate Mondays wrote:
BronBron06 wrote:On my end, I dropped MSAA from 8 to 4
No more stutter, steady 60 fps, maybe 8 is just too much.


Also FAST_TEXTURE_FORMAT_CONVERSION = 1 crashed my game, changed it back to 0



MMSAA set to 4 gives me 60fps gameplay, but during cutscenes it drops to like 30 fps or lower. This is not a fix :(

i assume u have dynamic refresh rate or whatever turned off?
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Postby I Hate Mondays on Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:47 am

dreamagain wrote:
I hate Mondays wrote:
BronBron06 wrote:On my end, I dropped MSAA from 8 to 4
No more stutter, steady 60 fps, maybe 8 is just too much.


Also FAST_TEXTURE_FORMAT_CONVERSION = 1 crashed my game, changed it back to 0



MMSAA set to 4 gives me 60fps gameplay, but during cutscenes it drops to like 30 fps or lower. This is not a fix :(

i assume u have dynamic refresh rate or whatever turned off?


Yup. Should I turn it on?
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Postby dreamagain on Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:15 am

I hate Mondays wrote:
dreamagain wrote:
I hate Mondays wrote:
BronBron06 wrote:On my end, I dropped MSAA from 8 to 4
No more stutter, steady 60 fps, maybe 8 is just too much.


Also FAST_TEXTURE_FORMAT_CONVERSION = 1 crashed my game, changed it back to 0



MMSAA set to 4 gives me 60fps gameplay, but during cutscenes it drops to like 30 fps or lower. This is not a fix :(

i assume u have dynamic refresh rate or whatever turned off?


Yup. Should I turn it on?

No, turning it on makes it so all cut scenes go down to 30fps for whatever reason. For that cinematic experience I guess *console user logic*.
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Postby I Hate Mondays on Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:12 pm

Jay-R, any improvements after the latest patch (1.06)? I've just tried MSAA x8 and there is still a lot of fps drops but IMO, it is better than last time. Could be placebo though. Back to 0 for me :(
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Postby jay-r on Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:27 pm

I hate Mondays wrote:Jay-R, any improvements after the latest patch (1.06)? I've just tried MSAA x8 and there is still a lot of fps drops but IMO, it is better than last time. Could be placebo though. Back to 0 for me :(


I hate Mondays,
I will check it out later this evening, but currently I am continuing to run the game with my first post settings and its been flawless ever since I found the MSAA setting issue. I have tried the suggested settings by others like the option to set FPS cap (awful performance) and "FAST_TEXTURE_FORMAT_CONVERSION", but none of those have given any improvement.

For instance, settings posted by Phreak50 are very different in their core. For example, Windomode is the culprit/the Main Setting at least in my book "How to achieve stutter-less game-play in NBA 2k17" . He has it @0, which if remember correctly is simple FullScreen mode (don't have the nba 2k17 video setting vocabulary file with me (i am at work)), which at least on my system was causing stuttering all over the place, especially during passing which makes the game unplayable. Moreover, at least on my system, Vsync set to ON in nvidia CP seems to cause more input lag, than the combination -> NVIDIA CP "Vsync - Use the 3D application setting"; in game video setting "Vsync - ON", therefore these settings are kind inapplicable to my combination of settings.
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Postby I Hate Mondays on Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:26 am

The game runs perfectly @ MSAA set to 0 for me, but I can really tell the edges are very ugly, just as you'd expect from a game with AA set to 0. This game has the potential to be very beautiful, but not with MSAA set to 0. I do have a GTX 970 FTW which in my oppinoin is arguably the best 970. I should be able to run the game maxed out but who knows. Maybe my video card is outdated. So a guy like you with a GTX 980 TI or 1080 should be the one deciding if the problem is on my end or 2k's end. If after the last update you can't switch to MSAA 8 yourself, it means that the fix is not here yet and there is still hope for my GTX 970
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Postby elsoulas on Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:31 am

Andrew have you contacted 2K about the stuttering issue? I am addressing you because you said that youintended to do so.
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Postby xerion on Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:12 am

I've been running on in-game 8x MSAA since the start and haven't had any issue, 60 FPS pretty much everywhere. All on max, shaders on ultra. Nvidia CP settings on quality, AA 8x.


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Re: NBA2K17 PC Frame Rate Drops - found a fix for Nvidia GPU's - new finding!!!

Postby jay-r on Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:13 am

I hate Mondays wrote:Jay-R, any improvements after the latest patch (1.06)? I've just tried MSAA x8 and there is still a lot of fps drops but IMO, it is better than last time. Could be placebo though. Back to 0 for me :(


Yes, there are improvements. With every other setting intact I raised MSAA from 0 to 4 and in all scenarios in which stuttering was evident previously is not there (cutscenes after foul is made, during some replays, dunk show during half-time). Dunk show at halftime is actually the easiest way to spot/see how MSAA settings affects the game. Previously it stuttered even with MSAA @4. Now it longer stutters there or elsewhere. Did not have time to test out MSAA @8. Tommorow or after tomorrow. Settings have been updated in the first post.
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Postby I Hate Mondays on Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:08 pm

jay-r wrote:
I hate Mondays wrote:Jay-R, any improvements after the latest patch (1.06)? I've just tried MSAA x8 and there is still a lot of fps drops but IMO, it is better than last time. Could be placebo though. Back to 0 for me :(


Yes, there are improvements. With every other setting intact I raised MSAA from 0 to 4 and in all scenarios in which stuttering was evident previously is not there (cutscenes after foul is made, during some replays, dunk show during half-time). Dunk show at halftime is actually the easiest way to spot/see how MSAA settings affects the game. Previously it stuttered even with MSAA @4. Now it longer stutters there or elsewhere. Did not have time to test out MSAA @8. Tommorow or after tomorrow. Settings have been updated in the first post.



Great! have to try MSAA set to 4 then. Looking for your feedback on 8 MSAA
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Postby dyopopoy on Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:11 pm

Yes there was a LITTLE Improvement.
I have my Crowd now at High (it was Medium before) :D

Tried increasing my MSAA from 2 to 4 , nah, still stuttering.
At MSAA-2 i have constant 60fps. but at 4, it goes down to 54,55, 56,57,58 when someone takes a jumpshot. not acceptable. i want constant 60. :D

bottomline, there was VERY LITTLE Improvement.
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Postby Phreak50 on Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:26 pm

No change here. VSync off and Vsync on, same results. Could be my system was already maxing it at 60fps so hopefully anyone with lower specs will see improvements.
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Postby elsoulas on Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:53 pm

OK msaa 4 works great now. Btw jayr we ve got pretty much the same specs. Will try 8x later tonight.
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Postby jay-r on Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:10 pm

elsoulas wrote:OK msaa 4 works great now. Btw jayr we ve got pretty much the same specs. Will try 8x later tonight.


By the way, I am in between windows 10 and 7. The latest result -> MSAA@4 with no stuttering was achieved same hardware but on windows 7 x64 to which I will be sticking to unless some game specifically demands DX12. Now I am going back to Windows 7 x64 for some other reasons (mainly because of Aero Glass which I greatly miss on W10 and http://www.glass8.eu/ does not really give me the same effect). I would not say that performance is any better on w7, but I just wanted to clarify this ;). To me W7 in all areas seems lighter than w10 and I cannot cope with a OS that has nonsense like similar/repeating settings in 2 places (Settings + Control Panel..wtf ? stick to one) and other nonsense like those intrusive settings that you cannot change unless you really dig into it..
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Postby elsoulas on Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:25 am

I am on 10 jay r. I will be posting my 8X msaa findings soon.
UPDATE
Guys unfortunately 8X causes stuttering. 2K should do something about it now. It's at their hands.
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Postby I Hate Mondays on Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:17 am

elsoulas wrote:I am on 10 jay r. I will be posting my 8X msaa findings soon.
UPDATE
Guys unfortunately 8X causes stuttering. 2K should do something about it now. It's at their hands.


It's not like it's the end of November, lol. They sure do like to take their time. Last year they started asking for PC specs from guys who had stuttering around the middle of OCTOBER. I just hope it gets solved by the end of 2016, in January they usually assign most of their people for the upcomming game (2K18 in our situation).
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Postby jay-r on Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:52 am

elsoulas wrote:I am on 10 jay r. I will be posting my 8X msaa findings soon.
UPDATE
Guys unfortunately 8X causes stuttering. 2K should do something about it now. It's at their hands.


Yep, same here. x8 is not an option, yet. Stutters like crazy in the mentioned situations. Actually today I am also seeing a bit of stuttering @4x now, but its definitely better. I think I might even try MSAA @2 (in game) with forced Enhanced AA through Nvidia CP somewhat similar to what Phreak50 has done although my observation after tons of hours of nba 2k is that nvidia CP forced settings like for instance Enhanced AA has almost zero effect on 2k games and performance improves when selecting the option "Use the 3D application setting" / "Application controlled", basically game engine plays smoother when you don't mess with it/force an unknown video option on its engine.
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Postby I Hate Mondays on Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:27 am

jay-r wrote:
elsoulas wrote:I am on 10 jay r. I will be posting my 8X msaa findings soon.
UPDATE
Guys unfortunately 8X causes stuttering. 2K should do something about it now. It's at their hands.


Yep, same here. x8 is not an option, yet. Stutters like crazy in the mentioned situations. Actually today I am also seeing a bit of stuttering @4x now, but its definitely better. I think I might even try MSAA @2 (in game) with forced Enhanced AA through Nvidia CP somewhat similar to what Phreak50 has done although my observation after tons of hours of nba 2k is that nvidia CP forced settings like for instance Enhanced AA has almost zero effect on 2k games and performance improves when selecting the option "Use the 3D application setting" / "Application controlled", basically game engine plays smoother when you don't mess with it/force an unknown video option on its engine.




Just do your thing and keep us updated, jay-r, we are all thankful. MSAA set to 4 is ok for me too, just tried it.
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Postby jay-r on Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:08 am

I hate Mondays wrote:Just do your thing and keep us updated, jay-r, we are all thankful. MSAA set to 4 is ok for me too, just tried it.

;)

You cant imagine how many times have I quit the game right after halftime (right after ultimate stutter test called "Dunk fest at the halftime") looking for that ideal combination :D at least for first months out i spend more time experimenting with settings/quitting early than actually playing the game :D

I hate settling for half ass performance if my rig is more than capable of running any game title maxed out.

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Postby elsoulas on Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:45 am

Btw jayr I don't think MFAA is any longer needed through nvidia cp. I am on 8X ingame aa with no to minor cutscene stuttering. Gameplay is smooth imho.
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Postby elsoulas on Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:26 am

MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH
D3D_INTERNAL_THREADING_OPTIMIZATIONS = 0

With this set to 0 I can play everything maxed out, with some stuttering on cutscenes!!!
Moreover, no need for FULL SCREEN WINDOWED MODE
These are my config settings:
WIDTH = 2560
HEIGHT = 1440
REFRESHRATE = 60.0
BUFFERCOUNT = 3
VSYNC = 1
DYNAMIC_VSYNC = 0
LETTERBOX = 0
UI_ASPECT = 1
CURSOR_IDLE_TIME = 5
WINDOWMODE = 0
WINDOW_X = -2147483648
WINDOW_Y = -2147483648
MSAA = 8
MSAAQUALITY = 0
SSAA = 0
REFLECTIONS = 1
MONITOR = 0
MAXANISOTROPY = 16
ALLOW_BLURRY_UI = 0
TEXTURELOD = 0
PLAYERLOD = 0
MEDIAPEOPLELOD = 0
CROWDLOD = 0
SHADERLOD = 0
EFFECTLOD = 0
COLOR_CORRECTION = 1
DEPTH_OF_FIELD = 1
SSAO = 1
ENHANCEDAA = 1
BLOOM = 1
MOTION_BLUR = 1
VOLUMETRIC_EFFECTS = 1
ALLOW_COMPUTE_SHADERS = 1
VIBRATION = 0.0
ABOVE_NORMAL_PRIORITY = 1
D3D_INTERNAL_THREADING_OPTIMIZATIONS = 0
FAST_TEXTURE_FORMAT_CONVERSION = 0
DYNAMIC_ENVIRONMENT_MAP = 1
JIT_SHADER_CREATE = 0
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Postby jay-r on Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:31 am

elsoulas wrote:MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH
D3D_INTERNAL_THREADING_OPTIMIZATIONS = 0
With this set to 0 I can play everything maxed out, with some stuttering on cutscenes!!!
Moreover, no need for FULL SCREEN WINDOWED MODE
0


Can't wait to try it out, especially seeing that you are rocking my settings all the way. GTX 1080?
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Postby elsoulas on Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:02 am

jay-r wrote:
elsoulas wrote:MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH
D3D_INTERNAL_THREADING_OPTIMIZATIONS = 0
With this set to 0 I can play everything maxed out, with some stuttering on cutscenes!!!
Moreover, no need for FULL SCREEN WINDOWED MODE
0


Can't wait to try it out, especially seeing that you are rocking my settings all the way. GTX 1080?


Actually, GTX 1070.
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Postby elsoulas on Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:02 am

jay-r wrote:
elsoulas wrote:MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH
D3D_INTERNAL_THREADING_OPTIMIZATIONS = 0
With this set to 0 I can play everything maxed out, with some stuttering on cutscenes!!!
Moreover, no need for FULL SCREEN WINDOWED MODE
0


Can't wait to try it out, especially seeing that you are rocking my settings all the way. GTX 1080?


Actually, GTX 1070 but with i5 4690K
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Postby jay-r on Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:16 am

elsoulas wrote:
jay-r wrote:
elsoulas wrote:MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH
D3D_INTERNAL_THREADING_OPTIMIZATIONS = 0
With this set to 0 I can play everything maxed out, with some stuttering on cutscenes!!!
Moreover, no need for FULL SCREEN WINDOWED MODE
0


Can't wait to try it out, especially seeing that you are rocking my settings all the way. GTX 1080?


Actually, GTX 1070 but with i5 4690K


Please share your nvidia CP settings unless they are alike.
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Postby elsoulas on Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:24 am

They are the same.
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Postby Issy on Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:11 am

I am the only one who can't play in MyPark?

My game works well in all other game modes at 60 fps.

But when i'm going to MyPark, after few secondes/minutes i have freez (the game froze and i need to restart my PC) or crash (the game exit and i'm back to the desktop). I specially have freez when i go with shader in high.
I tried all settings (even the worst resolution and aliasing but no effect).

And i'm not the only one, 4 peoples who have the same GPU than me, a R9 380 have the same problem.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/385760/di ... 003925066/
https://community.amd.com/thread/206482

There is my settings :

WIDTH = 1680
HEIGHT = 1050
REFRESHRATE = 60.0
BUFFERCOUNT = 3
VSYNC = 1
DYNAMIC_VSYNC = 0
LETTERBOX = 1
MSAA = 0
SSAA = 2

ADAPTER_DESCRIPTION = AMD Radeon (TM) R9 380 Series
CPU_DESCRIPTION = Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz
24 gb DDR3

I was in contact with 2ksupport like one month now, we try everything but she literally said this is not their problem.

This is very frustrating when the park was working well in 2k16. :cry:
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Postby I Hate Mondays on Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:58 am

Jay-R, any new NVIDIA control panel changes? Have you manage to get 60 fps with MSAA set to 4 and nothing lower than 60? I have some weird moments when my fps drops if I have my MSAA set to 4. The game starts and it's all nice, after a couple of minutes I get some stutter during some random jumpshots, then after a few minutes the fps rate is good again and so on.
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Postby jay-r on Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:44 am

I hate Mondays wrote:Jay-R, any new NVIDIA control panel changes? Have you manage to get 60 fps with MSAA set to 4 and nothing lower than 60? I have some weird moments when my fps drops if I have my MSAA set to 4. The game starts and it's all nice, after a couple of minutes I get some stutter during some random jumpshots, then after a few minutes the fps rate is good again and so on.


Still working on it. MSAA @4 as you have noticed and I noticed on the 2nd day is not totally perfect.
Actually today I am also seeing a bit of stuttering @4x now, but its definitely better. I think I might even try MSAA @2 (in game) with forced Enhanced AA through Nvidia CP somewhat similar to what Phreak50 has done


I am looking for best way to enhance AA through NVIDIA CP with in game setting of MSAA @2, which so far works great no matter what you throw at the game through Nvidia CP. MSAA @4 is not critically bad, but I don't want to settle for set of settings which causes even the slightest FPS drop and with MSAA @4 they do happen.

By the way, the best way monitor GPU/CPU USAGE + FPS is through RivaTuner Statistics Server that comes in bundle with MSI AfterBurner -> https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner

and my recommendation to anyone claiming that they have found the set of settings that give you stutter-free performance -> play until the half-time and monitor FPS as soon as Ernie, Shaq, Kenny finish up the halftime show and watch it through the whole dunk show. If during the halftime dunk show you see any FPS drops (bellow 58) you will get occasional FPS drops throughout the whole game, but if it stays above 58, the game will run as smooth as butter.
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Postby elsoulas on Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:02 am

jay-r wrote:
I hate Mondays wrote:Jay-R, any new NVIDIA control panel changes? Have you manage to get 60 fps with MSAA set to 4 and nothing lower than 60? I have some weird moments when my fps drops if I have my MSAA set to 4. The game starts and it's all nice, after a couple of minutes I get some stutter during some random jumpshots, then after a few minutes the fps rate is good again and so on.


Still working on it. MSAA @4 as you have noticed and I noticed on the 2nd day is not totally perfect.
Actually today I am also seeing a bit of stuttering @4x now, but its definitely better. I think I might even try MSAA @2 (in game) with forced Enhanced AA through Nvidia CP somewhat similar to what Phreak50 has done


I am looking for best way to enhance AA through NVIDIA CP with in game setting of MSAA @2, which so far works great no matter what you throw at the game through Nvidia CP. MSAA @4 is not critically bad, but I don't want to settle for set of settings which causes even the slightest FPS drop and with MSAA @4 they do happen.

By the way, the best way monitor GPU/CPU USAGE + FPS is through RivaTuner Statistics Server that comes in bundle with MSI AfterBurner -> https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner

and my recommendation to anyone claiming that they have found the set of settings that give you stutter-free performance -> play until the half-time and monitor FPS as soon as Ernie, Shaq, Kenny finish up the halftime show and watch it through the whole dunk show. If during the halftime dunk show you see any FPS drops (bellow 58) you will get occasional FPS drops throughout the whole game, but if it stays above 58, the game will run as smooth as butter.


That's totally correct. In the beginning everything seems OK. Today btw I cannot seem to get stutterless perfomance nomatter what.
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Postby jay-r on Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:13 am

By the way, its not worth playing around with Antialiasing - Transparency as it causes issues with hair as in previous nba 2k titles..

Here's an example of Antialiasing - Transparency @x4 (supersample)
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Postby jay-r on Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:45 am

elsoulas wrote:That's totally correct. In the beginning everything seems OK. Today btw I cannot seem to get stutterless perfomance nomatter what.


Well I just played couple of stutter-free games with my latest set. See the updated settings in the first post.

Latest changes made:
1. in game video settings: went back to MSAA@2
2. nvidia cp: AA mode - Enhance the application setting
3. nvidia cp: AA setting - 8x.
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Postby I Hate Mondays on Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:23 am

jay-r wrote:
elsoulas wrote:That's totally correct. In the beginning everything seems OK. Today btw I cannot seem to get stutterless perfomance nomatter what.


Well I just played couple of stutter-free games with my latest set. See the updated settings in the first post.

Latest changes made:
1. in game video settings: went back to MSAA@2
2. nvidia cp: AA mode - Enhance the application setting
3. nvidia cp: AA setting - 8x.



Thank you!

Edit: Thank you x 1000! I was a little bit skeptical at first because I had used MSAA x 2 with your last NVIDIA settings, and it was stuttering like hell during open crowd camera shots, as well as during other segments. Practically, for some reason MSAA set to 4 was running better than MSAA set to 2 with your former settings.
After I made those two changes which you mentioned today in my NVIDIA Control Panel, MSAA set to 2 seems to run perfectly smooth. Thank you for your research :applaud:
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Re: NBA2K17 PC Frame Rate Drops - found a fix for Nvidia GPU's - new finding!!!

Postby jay-r on Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:49 pm

;)

By the way, MFAA setting (MFAA - ON) in NVIDIA CP has zero effect on nba 2k as its game engine does not recognize MFAA at all so you can easily leave it to off ;)
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Re: NBA2K17 PC Frame Rate Drops - found a fix for Nvidia GPU's - new finding!!!

Postby tjangel07 on Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:04 pm

It's weird how my system can max out 2K16 at 72fps with no drops but not this game.
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Re: NBA2K17 PC Frame Rate Drops - found a fix for Nvidia GPU's - new finding!!!

Postby jay-r on Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:47 pm

jay-r wrote:;)

By the way, MFAA setting (MFAA - ON) in NVIDIA CP has zero effect on nba 2k as its game engine does not recognize MFAA at all so you can easily leave it to off ;)

^^^^^^^^
For this reason I updated Nvidia CP settings (latest change: MFAA - OFF).
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Re: NBA2K17 PC Frame Rate Drops - found a fix for Nvidia GPU's - new finding!!!

Postby I Hate Mondays on Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:49 pm

jay-r wrote:;)

By the way, MFAA setting (MFAA - ON) in NVIDIA CP has zero effect on nba 2k as its game engine does not recognize MFAA at all so you can easily leave it to off ;)



Done. Waiting for other updates if you find anything new! :applaud:
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Re: NBA2K17 PC Frame Rate Drops - found a fix for Nvidia GPU's - new finding!!!

Postby I Hate Mondays on Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:12 am

After the new patch installed today, I can confirm with a poorer confing than you Jay-R that now the game runs smoooooothly as silk on MSAA set to 4. MSAA x 8 is still unplayable though :( But I am really glad they are making progress towards a final fix for this stupid AA problem.

I haven't changed anything from your last NVIDIA Control Panel Settings. I will wait for you to tweak some settings after this update, do your magic. I am also waiting to hear from you if you have the same smooth gameplay on MSAA x 4, and bad gameplay on MSAA x 8, to see if it is a common progress/issue.
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Postby jay-r on Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:42 am

I hate Mondays wrote:After the new patch installed today, I can confirm with a poorer confing than you Jay-R that now the game runs smoooooothly as silk on MSAA set to 4. MSAA x 8 is still unplayable though :( But I am really glad they are making progress towards a final fix for this stupid AA problem. I haven't changed anything from your last NVIDIA Control Panel Settings. I will wait for you to tweak some settings after this update, do your magic. I am also waiting to hear from you if you have the same smooth gameplay on MSAA x 4, and bad gameplay on MSAA x 8, to see if it is a common progress/issue.


Yes, now after patch 1.07 MSAA x 4 (in game) is the new standard. Smooth as x 2 was before the patch. 1st post updated.

p.s. MSAA x 8 is still stuttering like Joe -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eODhO-sA9aQ
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Re: NBA2K17 PC Frame Rate Drops - found a fix for Nvidia GPU's - new finding!!!

Postby elsoulas on Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:16 am

With D3D INTERNAL OPTIMISATIONS set to 0 things are almost perfect in my system. I ll post my settings soon.
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Re: NBA2K17 PC Frame Rate Drops - found a fix for Nvidia GPU's - new finding!!!

Postby I Hate Mondays on Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:17 pm

jay-r wrote:
I hate Mondays wrote:After the new patch installed today, I can confirm with a poorer confing than you Jay-R that now the game runs smoooooothly as silk on MSAA set to 4. MSAA x 8 is still unplayable though :( But I am really glad they are making progress towards a final fix for this stupid AA problem. I haven't changed anything from your last NVIDIA Control Panel Settings. I will wait for you to tweak some settings after this update, do your magic. I am also waiting to hear from you if you have the same smooth gameplay on MSAA x 4, and bad gameplay on MSAA x 8, to see if it is a common progress/issue.


Yes, now after patch 1.07 MSAA x 4 (in game) is the new standard. Smooth as x 2 was before the patch. 1st post updated.

p.s. MSAA x 8 is still stuttering like Joe -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eODhO-sA9aQ



Yeah, you said it better, MSAA x 4 performs just like X2 did, but it's not perfect. Since my last post I've discovered situations where the game would drop fps at MSAA x 4. But that was the case with MSAA set to 2.
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Re: NBA2K17 PC Frame Rate Drops - found a fix for Nvidia GPU's - new finding!!!

Postby elsoulas on Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:09 am

WIDTH = 2560
HEIGHT = 1440
REFRESHRATE = 60.0
BUFFERCOUNT = 3
VSYNC = 1
DYNAMIC_VSYNC = 0
LETTERBOX = 0
UI_ASPECT = 1
CURSOR_IDLE_TIME = 5
WINDOWMODE = 0
WINDOW_X = -2147483648
WINDOW_Y = -2147483648
MSAA = 8
MSAAQUALITY = 0
SSAA = 0
REFLECTIONS = 1
MONITOR = 0
MAXANISOTROPY = 16
ALLOW_BLURRY_UI = 0
TEXTURELOD = 0
PLAYERLOD = 0
MEDIAPEOPLELOD = 0
CROWDLOD = 0
SHADERLOD = 0
EFFECTLOD = 0
COLOR_CORRECTION = 1
DEPTH_OF_FIELD = 1
SSAO = 1
ENHANCEDAA = 1
BLOOM = 1
MOTION_BLUR = 1
VOLUMETRIC_EFFECTS = 1
ALLOW_COMPUTE_SHADERS = 1
VIBRATION = 0.0
ABOVE_NORMAL_PRIORITY = 1
D3D_INTERNAL_THREADING_OPTIMIZATIONS = 0
FAST_TEXTURE_FORMAT_CONVERSION = 1
DYNAMIC_ENVIRONMENT_MAP = 1
JIT_SHADER_CREATE = 1

My nvidia settings are the same as Jay-r except for aa which is the default setting.
try it out yourselves now.
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Re: NBA2K17 PC Frame Rate Drops - found a fix for Nvidia GPU's - new finding!!!

Postby timmyd on Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:37 am

I am downloading created courts, however losing quality on the floor textures with these settings. Game play has improved and is perfect with the right frame rates and no lags. However, custom created courts aren't looking great anymore. Lines on the court (3 pt line, etc) are all blurry and so are the logo's.

The actual arena itself is HD without blur and edges, Fans, Side line equipment, Stanchion, Net, Backboard, Chairs/Seats.
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Re: NBA2K17 PC Frame Rate Drops - found a fix for Nvidia GPU's - new finding!!!

Postby blitzkriegbugz on Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:02 am

Thanks for the great job guys! :D
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Re: NBA2K17 PC Frame Rate Drops - found a fix for Nvidia GPU's - new finding!!!

Postby blitzkriegbugz on Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:11 am

tried all the suggestions here but to no avail, still microstuttering like hell. lol. this is the way that worked for me. try this "low specs experience" app. google it. it does give the game a "downgraded" gfx setting, tho you can turn it back on the setting. just don't mess with the frame size in game. you'll see what i mean. just follow the instructions on youtube on how it works. it worked for me
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Re: NBA2K17 PC Frame Rate Drops - found a fix for Nvidia GPU's - new finding!!!

Postby timmyd on Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:42 am

elsoulas wrote:WIDTH = 2560
HEIGHT = 1440
REFRESHRATE = 60.0
BUFFERCOUNT = 3
VSYNC = 1
DYNAMIC_VSYNC = 0
LETTERBOX = 0
UI_ASPECT = 1
CURSOR_IDLE_TIME = 5
WINDOWMODE = 0
WINDOW_X = -2147483648
WINDOW_Y = -2147483648
MSAA = 8
MSAAQUALITY = 0
SSAA = 0
REFLECTIONS = 1
MONITOR = 0
MAXANISOTROPY = 16
ALLOW_BLURRY_UI = 0
TEXTURELOD = 0
PLAYERLOD = 0
MEDIAPEOPLELOD = 0
CROWDLOD = 0
SHADERLOD = 0
EFFECTLOD = 0
COLOR_CORRECTION = 1
DEPTH_OF_FIELD = 1
SSAO = 1
ENHANCEDAA = 1
BLOOM = 1
MOTION_BLUR = 1
VOLUMETRIC_EFFECTS = 1
ALLOW_COMPUTE_SHADERS = 1
VIBRATION = 0.0
ABOVE_NORMAL_PRIORITY = 1
D3D_INTERNAL_THREADING_OPTIMIZATIONS = 0
FAST_TEXTURE_FORMAT_CONVERSION = 1
DYNAMIC_ENVIRONMENT_MAP = 1
JIT_SHADER_CREATE = 1

My nvidia settings are the same as Jay-r except for aa which is the default setting.
try it out yourselves now.



how do i put in these values? in NBA 2k video settings, it doesn't give me all those options or places to put number values in.
Under NVIDIA control panel, same thing. I don't see these... but I did follow the NVIDIA Control panel settings, those worked. I want to insert these too to eliminate further issues.

How do I input these settings? where can I find them...
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Re: NBA2K17 PC Frame Rate Drops - found a fix for Nvidia GPU's - new finding!!!

Postby timmyd on Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:43 am

blitzkriegbugz wrote:tried all the suggestions here but to no avail, still microstuttering like hell. lol. this is the way that worked for me. try this "low specs experience" app. google it. it does give the game a "downgraded" gfx setting, tho you can turn it back on the setting. just don't mess with the frame size in game. you'll see what i mean. just follow the instructions on youtube on how it works. it worked for me



Thanks! I'll give that a shot as well. How does the game look and feel with this?
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Re: NBA2K17 PC Frame Rate Drops - found a fix for Nvidia GPU's - new finding!!!

Postby blitzkriegbugz on Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:59 am

timmyd wrote:
blitzkriegbugz wrote:tried all the suggestions here but to no avail, still microstuttering like hell. lol. this is the way that worked for me. try this "low specs experience" app. google it. it does give the game a "downgraded" gfx setting, tho you can turn it back on the setting. just don't mess with the frame size in game. you'll see what i mean. just follow the instructions on youtube on how it works. it worked for me



Thanks! I'll give that a shot as well. How does the game look and feel with this?


the gfx feels a bit stale. or maybe it's just placebo. but the framerate greatly improved. On my end, i only have a gtx 750ti, not that great of a card. tho i can play nba 2k17 at constant60fps. my frame size is @1600x900, crowd low, media people 0, textures medium, player detail and shaders high. i also find reflections a bit gfx heavy, so i turned it off. I have constant 60fps on these using Low Specs Experience. Not using the app, my framerate dips from 50-60 which is hell. with the app running, same settings, i got constant 60s. Can imagine it working wonders on high end gfx cards.
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